Quote Originally Posted by 2ndamendsis
Quote Originally Posted by PinestrawGuys
Jeez guys and gals, don't you think this is getting a little pointless?





YUP
No, there is most definitely a point, which is that what someone posting here claims that "everyone knows" is not necessarily a truth. Many of the most corrupt institutions throughout history used exactly these sorts of propagandistic ploys to manipulate public opinion with false or empty claims.

If someone wants to make a claim of this nature, fine, let him or her substantiate that claim with facts or else concede that the claim may be nothing more than hot air.

I'm sorry, but I just got through dealing with a similarly empty claim on another topic in another thread, and these sorts of "everyone knows" or "everyone says" factoids get damned old. Even more telling is when someone continues to press their unsubstantiated assertions when confronted with contrary fact. In my experience, that points to more than just lack of thoroughness. It points to an agenda.