Thread: Harry Reid pushes for vote on "Dream" Thursday

Originally Posted by stevetheroofer

"CALL THESE SENATORS!"

Bingaman yes 202 224 5521 NM 87102
Brown sc. un 202 224 4543 MA 96850
Brown Sh. un 202 224 2315 OH 45202
Cantwell un 202 224 3441 WA 98174
Cardin yes 202 224 4524 MD 21201
Carper un 202 224 2441 DE 19904
Casey un 202 224 6324 PA 16823
Conrad un 202 224 2043 ND 58501
Corker un 202 224 3344 TN 38103
Ensign un 202 224 6244 NV 20510
Feinstein yes 202 224 3841 CA 90025
Gillibrand un 202 224 4451 NY 10017
Hutchison un 202 224 5922 TX 78226
Klobuchar un 202 224 3244 MN 55415
Kohl un 202 224 5653 WI 53203
Lieberman un 202 224 4041 CT 06103
Lugar yes 202 224 4814 IN 47708
Manchin yes 202 224 3954 WV 25305
McCaskill opp/before 202 224 6154 MO 63703
Menendez yes 202 224 4744 NJ 07102
Nelson yes 202 224 5274 FL 32801
Sanders un 202 224 5141 VT 05301
Stabenow un 202 224 4822 MI 48823
Tester un 202 224 2644 MT 59715
Webb un 202 224 4024 VA 24541
Whitehouse un 202 224 2921 RI 02903
Wicker un 202 224 6253 MS 39201
Daniel yes 202 224 6361 Honolulu,HI 96850

Originally Posted by topsecret10

Originally Posted by LuvMyCountry

I dont buy the premise in this article that Ried won because of his immigration stance. He had allot more money and lets face it, Nevadians are a bunch of left wing Commies. I will never go there again.

I lived In Las Vegas for 4 years. The SEIU and all of their Illegal Alien workers In the Casinos on the strip STOLE the election. Illegals were most definitely voting In the last election. By the way,they are committing a FELONY by doing so.

I think I read somewhere that Nevada primaries were held at the casinos so that their workers wouldn't be inconvenienced by having to travel to a polling place. With so many casino workers being illegal, I'm certain they followed their SEIU marching order and cast their ballots as instructed.

I suspect several issues are playing into this. Even staunch amnesty advocates as Graham and McCain said they won't support any amnesty at this juncture which may be having sway over fence sitting RINOs as Lemieux, Collins, Snowe and Brown. I wouldn't be surprised if Boehner read the riot act to Reid and Pelosi at the White House powwow, telling them that Americans have spoken loud and clear and if Demos try to ram this crap down our throats there will be no cooperation from the GOP. Struggling and suffering Americans want tax relief extension and jobs, not more taxes and competition with tens of millions of additional illegal aliens for what few jobs there are while subsidizing illegal alien health care, welfare, foodstamps, wic, education and other benefits. While already struggling to put their kids through college, Americans are forced to pay out of state tuition rates while those who violated our laws, borders and sovereignty are rewarded with far cheaper tax payer subsidized in-state tuition. If our taxes go up and the government runs out of money because of congress' failure to pass a continuing resolution there will be hell to pay and the American people will make them pay in 2012.

Originally Posted by retiredairforce

I suspect several issues are playing into this. Even staunch amnesty advocates as Graham and McCain said they won't support any amnesty at this juncture which may be having sway over fence sitting RINOs as Lemieux, Collins, Snowe and Brown. I wouldn't be surprised if Boehner read the riot act to Reid and Pelosi at the White House powwow, telling them that Americans have spoken loud and clear and if Demos try to ram this crap down our throats there will be no cooperation from the GOP. Struggling and suffering Americans want tax relief extension and jobs, not more taxes and competition with tens of millions of additional illegal aliens for what few jobs there are while subsidizing illegal alien health care, welfare, foodstamps, wic, education and other benefits. While already struggling to put their kids through college, Americans are forced to pay out of state tuition rates while those who violated our laws, borders and sovereignty are rewarded with far cheaper tax payer subsidized in-state tuition. If our taxes go up and the government runs out of money because of congress' failure to pass a continuing resolution there will be hell to pay and the American people will make them pay in 2012.

Well said,and makes sense to me

Here it is boys and girls the list zips and cities."LET EM' HAVE IT!"

BARRASSO 202 224 6441 CASPER,WY.82602
BINGAMAN 202 224 5521 SACRAMENTO,CA.95834
BROWN,SC. 202 224 4543 BOSTON,MA02203
BROWN,SH. 202 224 2315 CLEVELAND,OH.44114
CANTWELL 202 224 3441 SEATTLE,WA.98174
CARDIN 202 224 4524 BALTIMORE,MD.21201
CARPER 202 224 2441 DOVER,DE.19904
CASEY 202 224 6324 SCRANTON,PA.18503
CONRAD 202 224 2043 MINOT,ND.58701
CORKER 202 224 3344 NASHVILLE,TN.37203
ENSIGN 202 224 6244 RENO,NV.89501
FEINSTEIN 202 224 3841 FRESNO,CA.93721
GILLIBRAND 202 224 4451 NEW YORK,NY 10017
HATCH 202 224 5251 PROVO,UT84601
HUTCHISON 202 224 5922 ABILENE,TX.79602
KLOBACHAR 202 224 3244 MINNEAPOLIS,MN.55415
KOHL 202 224 5653 MILUAKEE,WI.53203
KYL 202 224 4521 TUCSON,AZ.85704
LIEBERMAN 202 224 4041 HARTFORD,CT.06103
LUGAR 202 224 4814 EVANSVILLE,IN.47708
MANCHIN 202 224 3954 CHARLESTON,WV.25304
McCASKILL 202 224 6154 COLUMBIA,MO.63703
MENENDEZ 202 224 4744 NEWARK,NJ.07102
NELSON,BEN 202 224 6551 OMAHA,NE.68154
NELSON,BILL 202 224 5274 TAMPA,FL.33602
SANDERS 202 224 5141 BRATTLEBORO,VT.05301
SNOWE 202 224 5344 AUGUSTA,ME.04330
STABENOW 202 224 4822 DETROIT,MI.48226
TESTER 202 224 2644 HELENA,MT.59601
WEBB 202 224 4024 NORTON,VA.24273
WHITEHOUSE 202 224 2921 PROVIDENCE,RI.02903
WICKER 202 224 6253 JACKSON,MS.39201

"JUST BE HERE A SECOND !"

Procedural Manuevering on DREAM Act Begins in the Senate, Setting Up a Possible Key Vote as Soon as Friday


By Micheal E. Hill
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 -- 5:05 pm EDT
--Updated on Tuesday, November 30, 2010, at 9:32 pm EST--

Just days before the 2010 mid-term elections, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) promised to bring the DREAM Act before the full Senate for a vote during the current "Lame Duck" post-election session. The Majority Leader has now made good on that promise. Senator Reid took the first steps toward bringing the DREAM Act before the Senate on Tuesday evening, November 30, in a move that could set up a key procedural vote on the measure as soon as Friday, December 3, or sometime early next week.

With mutliple versions of the DREAM Act to choose from, the Majority Leader chose to advance a new bill, S. 3992, a measure that was only introduced on Tuesday, November 30. The text of the new measure was not widely available at the time of this writing. However, it is believed that, like the original version of the DREAM Act, it would authorize the Secretary of Homeland Security to cancel the removal of, and adjust to conditional permanent resident status, an alien who: (1) entered the United States before his or her 16th birthday and has been present in the United States for at least five years immediately preceding enactment of the Act; (2) is a person of good moral character; (3) is not inadmissible or deportable under specified grounds of the Immigration and Nationality Act; and (4) at the time of application, has been admitted to an institution of higher education or has earned a high school or equivalent diploma. It is believed that the measure, further, would provide for lifting the conditional residency status of students and adjusting them to permanent residency.

A big unanswered question at the time of this writing is whether S. 3992 contains two provisions that were included in the original version of the DREAM Act but have been left out of subsequent versions. The first of these is a provision that would amend the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 to repeal the provision in that law that effectively prohibit states from providing in-state tuition for undocumented aliens unless the state provides in-state tuition to all citizens and nationals of the United States. The second of these is the question of what the bill's cut-off age is for DREAM Act beneficairies. The original version of the DREAM Act would have permitted persons who were up to age 35 to benefit from the bill. Subsequent versions of the bill reduced that cutoff age to 30 years-of-age.

Of course, it is possible that other significant changes have been made to the DREAM Act, as well, in this most recent version.

The impending floor action on the DREAM Act was triggered when Majority Leader Reid arranged for the introduction of the new bill (S. 3992) and moved to have the bill "read" the first time. It is likely that he will move to have the bill read a second time on Wednesday, December 1, then file a motion to proceed to the consideration of the bill, and then move to invoke cloture (shut down debate) on that motion. Under Senate rules, it takes two days for a cloture motion to "ripen" once it has been filed. Once it has ripened, a vote on cloture must occur.

Senate rules require the affirmative votes of 60 senators in order to invoke cloture (shut down debate) on a measure. Accordingly, Majority Leader Reid will need to convince 60 senators to vote in favor of invoking cloture in order to bring S. 3992 before the Senate.

Should the Senate eventually vote to invoke cloture on the motion to proceed to consideration of the DREAM Act, an amendment process will be triggered, wherein senators will be free to offer amendments to make changes in the bill. Senate DREAM Act opponents have indicated they intend to offer a host of potentially crippling amendments to the measure if the process gets that far. In all likelihood, if cloture is invoked, Majority Leader Reid will attempt to negotiate a defined list of amendments that could be offered to the bill. Any such agreement would require the unanimous consent of the Senate, however. If no such agreement is reached, under cloture, the Senate would have up to 100 hours to debate the measure before a final vote occurred on the bill, as amended, if amended.

Should the Senate decline to invoke cloture, Senator Reid will have the option of trying at some later time to invoke cloture, thus bring debate to a close, on the motion to proceed to consideration of the bill.

Secuing 60 votes to invoke cloture on the motion to proceed to the consideration of the DREAM Act will be a daunting task, given that several of the 58 sitting Democratic senators are expected to vote against doing so. In any imaginable scenario, Majority Leader Reid will have to win the votes of at least a half-dozen Republicans in order to invoke cloture on the measure. At the time of this writing, Senators Richard Lugar (R-IN) and Robert Bennett (R-UT) were the only Republicans who shad indicated support for it.
Prior to Tuesday, November 30, Senator Richard Durbin (D-IL) had introduced four versions of the DREAM Act during the 111th Congress, a move that was made in order to keep his options open in case he needed to make changes to the bill in order to secure the votes of wavering senators. The four versions that he had introduced prior to Tuesday were S. 729, the original version of the measure, as well as S. 3827, S. 3962, and S. 3963. Each version made changes around the edges of the original version of the measure -- some big and some small. In the end, the Majority Leader chose to attempt to bring a fifth version, S. 3992, before the full Senate for its consideration.

The text of S. 3992 was not available at the time of this writing. Check back in this space on Wednesday, December 1. MicEvHill.Com will post the text as soon as it is avaiable.

http://www(dot)micevhill.com/home_november_2010.php#reid_sets_up_key_procedural _vote_on_the_dream_act

Added an article from above to the Homepage:
http://www.alipac.us/article-5889--0-0.html

Please keep on calling. These Senators are still saying they haven't released a statement yet: Baucus, Brownback, Collins, Dorgan, Landrieu, McCaskill, Murkowski, Pryor, Snowe, Stabenow and Tester.

dingy harry reid needs to be charged as a traitor to the US and its laws and constitution

Originally Posted by southBronx

they Reid.
they you & Obama can sent all the illegal immigrant over sea to fight & send Our men & lady home why the illegal Immigrant would run like hell back to mexico . if they had to go to fight . no Amnesty or no citizen for baby .

THERE IS NOT A ONE OF THESE ILLEGALS REALLY WANTING TO SERVE IN OUR MILITARY. IF THEY DID, THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY JOINED. OBAMA LEGALIZED SOME ILLEGALS THAT ARE SERVING IN THE MILITARY ABOUT A LITTLE MORE THAN A YEAR AGO. NOW HOW DID THEY JOIN AS YOU HAVE SAID, THEY WOULD RUN LIKE HELL BACK TO MEXICO IF THEY HAD TO GO TO FIGHT. THIS IS JUST A LIE THAT THEY ARE PUSHING IN ORDER TO GET WHAT THEY WANT.