Thread: Hostile Letters to ALIPAC

Cheryl, I sure don't know what you are dissing Native Americans for. Those Casinos you are knocking were built and run legally by Native Americans. Sometimes one casino supports an entire tribe. They aren't getting anything for free--they are just industrious enough to work as a group.

And it isn't Mexicans we are against, either. It is illegal aliens, illegal immigrants and people who are in this country illegally for whatever reason.

I am not sure what you are trying to convey to us. I don't know what "yanks" you are talking about since that isn't a common American term--at least not in the last 50 years.

We don't have any control over Holland's immigration laws and so you lost me on that one, too. Are you from there? Are you trying to go there? Where are you from?

Maybe you would get a little more sympathy if you were less intent on harassing people who haven't broken any laws and try using your efforts to explain why it is that you and your husband are five thousand miles apart.

I'm confused, too-- by your post.

cheryl, welcome to the fight

JuniusJnr

this is what I gathered from Cheryl's post as a Native American -- the arguments put forth by Mark are way outdated, we are all Americans now. I think she is upset that those that are here illegally demand amnesty and citizenship, while she, like many others, has gone through the legal process to have her husband enter the country legally from Holland.

Sometimes when these things get personal, we (me) have tendency to speak emotionally.

Originally Posted by nittygritty

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Andyt, I would have to set you straight about the no witten "indian" language! I belong to the great Choctaw Tribe of Oklahoma and we certainally do have a written language,it is even taught in some public high schools here some college's offer it as an elective course. You can even take it for free online, the details are with the link I headed this post with. Cheryl, my tribe does recieve free health care and medications, I am proud to say now it only gets 10% of federal money from the government the rest is funded through the Choctaw Enterprizes of which they are great at. We have our own representatives and lobbyist in congress. We do not recieve free housing Cheryl, but can get a lower rate of interest and loans for the indigent people who need help with housing. I am very proud of my heritage,though I first and foremost consider myself an American, not separate from them in anyway because of my Choctaw heritage. the Choctaw code talkers were the "first" code talkers used in ww1 and WW2 I believe, though the Navajo code talkers were the next group to be used and were so valuable due to the fact their language was not written so therefore was unbreakable unless one of the code talkers were to be captured and broken.Anwyay just a little history of the Indian people who, Mark, are first and foremost American Citizens who for the most part would not have their great land invaded once again by these illegal aliens who have not thought of assimilating into the American society but invading with the intention of taking it over! One more little history lesson Andyt, you should have gotten this info in grade school american history, the Cherokee had the first written alphabet by Sequoyah, hope I spelled that right, leading to the first published Indian newspaper called the Cherokee Phoenix.I am also of Irish descent, like my other Irish counterpart here feel if any irish are here illegaly, they should be deported along with the rest of the illegals.

I was happy to see you proudly displaying your heritage. I thought it was the Cherokee used during the war, thanks for correcting 'my thoughts.'

Many people don't realize the Constitution for the United States was based in part upon the the Iroquois' Great Law of Peace. The Iroquois Confederacy consisted of six Iroquois nations, and it existed centuries before our Constitution was written and IT, not ours, is the oldest Constitution in the world. I believe it was not put in writing until sometime around 1917

The Great Law of Peace included the rights of "freedom of speech" and "freedom of religion" and the Iroquois Nation was the first women's rights movment -- women had the right to participate in government.



I remember seeing something several months back about some of the tribal leaders, not sure which tribes, saying they backed the 'white man' and not the Mexican's and others that are invading this country -- that there was a kindred spirit and respect.

ok you got me i wasnt dissing any group ..... i was ranting and raving a bit in a fit of frustration thats all. I have been in this freaking immigration loop for 11 months now and havnet heard a thing. Its one thing to talk about it in a forum. But its a whole other nightmare to be living it. My response to the indians in a candid way was that I am also native american but have NEVER taken advantage of any of the indian stuff as my mother didnt raise us with any of her native culture/ values . If anything my point would be that if that nats got pushed into small reservations the government has made up for that. BUT thats really irrelevant this forum is for americans for legal immigration . And that should be the topic of discussion. IM an american citizen from wash . state and i married a man from amsterdam holland. after 4 months of marriage he was detained at the canadian border and one month later deported back to holland because we technically left the country, by going to van.b.c for the weekend. My husbands paperwork was in progress all the fees were paid and we were just waiting for the next step. OUR mistake , but now when i see that all the illegals are here and they may be able to stay i have a big problem with that..With the way things are going now I dont ever expect to see my husband come back to the USA. They say that the wait for something like this is 3- 5 yrs. We will not wait that long to be back together so i will go to him and live since he is NOT allowed back in the USA at this time.Its a sad state of affairs when you cant be with a loved one and have to leave your country to be with them. And the same laws apply in holland i can only stay up to 3 months anything past that and i will put any return trips at jeopardy.So i have to do my planning very carefully and make sure that I am back on US soil before my time runs out.sorry for jumping all over the place earlier but all these thoughts just pour out of my head into my finger tips.

Originally Posted by cheryl

after 4 months of marriage he was detained at the canadian border and one month later deported back to holland because we technically left the country, by going to van.b.c for the weekend

was he detained by Canada or the U.S.? If y'all had only thought to go the the southern border instead!

Its one thing to talk about it in a forum. But its a whole other nightmare to be living it.

Now I get the picture, Cheryl.

Somehow I get the feeling that the high number of illegals in this country make it more and more difficult for legitimate people to get visas. It has definitely become a huge problem in the last five years. And it makes for a huge nightmare for the people who have to work through it.

Have you tried contacting your congressman? Sometimes they are able to expedite things.

Originally Posted by JuniusJnr

Its one thing to talk about it in a forum. But its a whole other nightmare to be living it.

Now I get the picture, Cheryl.

Somehow I get the feeling that the high number of illegals in this country make it more and more difficult for legitimate people to get visas. It has definitely become a huge problem in the last five years. And it makes for a huge nightmare for the people who have to work through it.

Have you tried contacting your congressman? Sometimes they are able to expedite things.

that would be a big concern at this point -- halting legal immigration because we were flooded with illegal aliens ... that's not fair to the people that have waited for years and gone through the legal process.

seems like our government is more concerned about 'family reunification' for illegals than it is in reuniting the families of citizens

Well said, William.

My bad! I Knew the Navajo had an unwritten language and that is why it was used as code in WWII. I have nothing against Indians Just Mark. Sorry for any unintended hurt feelings caused by my slam. I just finished a book about young captives taken by the Comanche in Llano Texas in the 1870s. Almost to a man they wanted to stay with the Indians. The name of the book is The Captured. Evidently the Comanche Indians could be the worst imaginable enemies but great to friends and family. Any how sorry. I'll slam the Australian Aboriginals next I know they have no written language.

hahah ohhhhhhh yes i have written to my governor, the senator, both congressladys, and the president oh and oprah . im trying to do anything I can to get to the top and im pretty stubborn i wont stop til i get some answers. Oh yes i tried to congress women and found out from my job that she was helping a women from tibet to get her sick sister here to the USA for treatment. GRRRRRRRRRRRR i almost wanted to blow up. and then my co worker who is from fiji who went home for one month came back married and 4 wks later her and her husband came back with green card in hand and now works here at the hosp. with us! I cannot believe the injustice that i have heard of and here Iam doing everything within my powers to get my husband here and all the foriengers are getting help before me. Im becoming a very bitter person over this issueAnd with just cause.