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    HR3333 is Tom Tancredo selling out

    From what I'm be told this bill has a guess worker part that is unlimited and includes high tech workers. What in the world is Tancredo doing?

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    Just went to the House of Representatives to look up the bill. Where did you here about the bill?
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    This is the seach messge when I looked it up.

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    This bill was amended. Here is the link.


    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00333:
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    http://www.zazona.com/About.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paige
    This bill was amended. Here is the link.


    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00333:
    The above link is incorrect. You want to correct the link to go here:

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.03333:

    H.R.3333
    Title: To enhance border enforcement, improve homeland security, remove incentives for illegal immigration, and establish a guest worker program.
    Sponsor: Rep Tancredo, Thomas G. [CO-6] (introduced 7/19/2005) Cosponsors (6)
    Latest Major Action: 8/23/2005 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims.

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    Thanks I don't know how this happened. Thank you for correcting the link.
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    Tancredo ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: HR3333 is Tom Tancredo selling out

    Quote Originally Posted by Once_A_Democrat
    From what I'm be told this bill has a guess worker part that is unlimited and includes high tech workers. What in the world is Tancredo doing?
    Be careful about making assumptions. Here are some more provisions from the bill:

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c ... Cff:e85680:

    SEC. 232. PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS OF FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS BY STATES AND LOCALITIES.

    (a) Preferential Treatment of Aliens not Lawfully Present for Higher Education Benefits- Section 505 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (Pub. Law 104-20 is amended--

    (1) in subsection (a), by inserting `or graduation from a high school in the United States' after `on the basis of residence'; and

    (2) by adding at the end the following:

    `(c) Annual Report- The Attorney General shall report annually to Congress on which, if any, post-secondary educational institutions are providing benefits in contravention of this section.

    `(d) Limitation on Federal Financial Assistance- No Federal agency shall provide any grant, reimbursement, or other financial assistance to any post-secondary educational institution determined under subsection (c) to be providing benefits in contravention of this section. Any funds withheld under this subsection shall be reallocated among qualifying educational institutions that are in compliance with subsection (a).'.

    (b) Non-Cooperation by States and Localities- Section 241(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1231(i)) is amended by adding at the end the following:

    `(7) Prior to entering into a contractual arrangement with a State or political subdivision under paragraph (1), the Attorney General shall determine whether such State or political subdivision has in place any formal or informal policy that violates section 642 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (8 U.S.C. 1373). The Attorney General shall not enter into a contractual arrangement with, or allocate any of the funds made available under this section to, any State or political subdivision with a policy that violates such section.'.

    SEC. 233. CLARIFICATION OF INHERENT AUTHORITY OF STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

    Notwithstanding any other provision of law and reaffirming the existing inherent authority of States, law enforcement personnel of a State or a political subdivision of a State have the inherent authority of a sovereign entity to apprehend, arrest, detain, or transfer to Federal custody aliens in the United States (including the transportation of such aliens across State lines to detention centers), in the enforcement of the immigration laws of the United States. This State authority has never been displaced or preempted by Congress.

    SEC. 234. USICE RESPONSE TO REQUESTS FOR ASSISTANCE FROM STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

    (a) In General- Title II of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1151 et seq.) is amended by inserting after section 240C the following new section:

    `CUSTODY OF ILLEGAL ALIENS

    `SEC. 240D. (a) If the chief executive officer of a State (or, if appropriate, a political subdivision of the State) exercising authority with respect to the apprehension of an illegal alien submits a request to the Secretary of Homeland Security that the alien be taken into Federal custody, the Secretary of Homeland Security--

    `(1) shall--

    `(A) not later than 48 hours after the conclusion of the State charging process or dismissal process, or if no State charging or dismissal process is required, not later than 48 hours after the illegal alien is apprehended, take the illegal alien into the custody of the Federal Government and incarcerate the alien; or

    `(B) request that the relevant State or local law enforcement agency temporarily incarcerate or transport the illegal alien for transfer to Federal custody; and

    `(2) shall designate a Federal, State, or local prison or jail or a private contracted prison or detention facility within each State as the central facility for that State to transfer custody of the criminal or illegal aliens to the Department of Homeland Security.

    `(b) The Department of Homeland Security shall reimburse States and localities for all reasonable expenses, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security, incurred by a State or locality in the incarceration and transportation of an illegal alien as described in subparagraphs (A) and (B) of subsection (a)(1). Compensation provided for costs incurred under such subparagraphs shall be the average cost of incarceration of a prisoner in the relevant State, as determined by the chief executive officer of a State (or, as appropriate, a political subdivision of the State) plus the cost of transporting the criminal or illegal alien from the point of apprehension, to the place of detention, and to the custody transfer point if the place of detention and place of custody are different.

    `(c) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall ensure that illegal aliens incarcerated in Federal facilities pursuant to this section are held in facilities which provide an appropriate level of security.

    `(d)(1) In carrying out this section, the Secretary of Homeland Security may establish a regular circuit and schedule for the prompt transfer of apprehended illegal aliens from the custody of States and political subdivisions of States to Federal custody.

    `(2) The Secretary of Homeland Security may enter into contracts with appropriate State and local law enforcement and detention officials to implement this section.

    `(e) For purposes of this section, the term `illegal alien' means an alien who--

    `(1) entered the United States without inspection or at any time or place other than that designated by the Secretary of Homeland Security;

    `(2) was admitted as a nonimmigrant and who, at the time the alien was taken into custody by the State or a political subdivision of the State, had failed to--

    `(A) maintain the nonimmigrant status in which the alien was admitted or to which it was changed under section 248; or

    `(B) comply with the conditions of any such status;

    `(3) was admitted as an immigrant and has subsequently failed to comply with the requirements of that status; or

    `(4) failed to depart the United States under a voluntary departure agreement or under a final order of removal.'.

    (b) Authorization of Appropriations for the Detention and Transportation to Federal Custody of Aliens not Lawfully Present- There is authorized to be appropriated $500,000,000 for the detention and removal of aliens not lawfully present in the United States under the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 et seq.) for fiscal year 2006 and each subsequent fiscal year.

    SEC. 235. BASIC IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT TRAINING FOR STATE, LOCAL, AND TRIBAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.

    (a) Demonstration Project-

    (1) IN GENERAL- Cameron University, located in Lawton, Oklahoma, shall establish and implement a demonstration project (in this section referred to as the `demonstration project') to assess the feasibility of establishing a nationwide e-learning training course, covering basic immigration law enforcement issues, to be used by State, local, and tribal law enforcement officers in order to improve and enhance their ability, during their routine course of duties, to assist Federal immigration officers in the enforcement of Federal immigration laws.

    (2) PROJECT DIRECTOR RESPONSIBILITIES- The Project Director charged with establishing and implementing the demonstration project shall do the following:

    (A) The Project Director shall develop an on-line, e-learning website to provide State, local, and tribal law enforcement officers access to the e-learning training course. Such website shall--

    (i) have the capability to enroll officers in the e-learning training course, record officers' performance on the course, and track officers' proficiency in learning the course's concepts;

    (ii) ensure a high level of security; and

    (iii) encrypt personal and sensitive information.

    (B) The Project Director shall develop an e-learning training course, which entails no more than four hours of training, is accessible through the on-line, e-learning website under subparagraph (A), and covers both the basic principles and practices of immigration law and the policies that relate to the enforcement of immigration laws. The e-learning training course shall--

    (i) include, but not be limited to, instruction about employment-based and family-based immigration, the various types of nonimmigrant visas, the differences between immigrant and nonimmigrant status, the differences between lawful and unlawful presence, the criminal and civil consequences of unlawful presence, the various grounds for removal, the types of false identification that illegal and criminal aliens commonly use, the common methods of alien smuggling and groups that commonly participate in alien smuggling rings, the inherent legal authority of local law enforcement officers to enforce federal immigration laws, and detention and removal procedures, including expeditious removal; and

    (ii) incorporate content similar to that covered in the four-hour training course the Immigration and Naturalization Service provided to all Alabama State Troopers in 2003 (in addition to, and separate from, the training given pursuant to the State's section 287(g) agreement).

    (C) The Project Director shall assess the feasibility of expanding to State, local, and tribal law enforcement agencies throughout the nation the on-line, e-learning website, including the e-learning training course, by using on-line technology.

    (b) Period of Project- The Project Director shall carry out the demonstration project for a one-year period beginning 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act.

    (c) Location of Project-

    (1) STATES COVERED- The Project Director shall carry out the demonstration project by enrolling in the e-learning training course State, local, and tribal law enforcement officers from Alabama, Colorado, Florida, Oklahoma, and Texas, and from at least one, but not more than three, other additional States.

    (2) NUMBER OF OFFICERS- A total of 100,000 officers shall have access to, enroll in, and complete the e-learning training course provided under the demonstration project.

    (3) APPORTIONMENT- The number of officers who are selected to participate in the demonstration project shall be apportioned according to the State populations of the participating States.

    (4) SELECTION- Participation in the demonstration project shall--

    (A) be equally apportioned between State, county, and municipal law enforcement agency officers;

    (B) include, when practicable, a significant subset of tribal law enforcement officers; and

    (C) include officers from urban, rural, and highly rural areas.

    (5) LIMITATION ON PARTICIPATION- Officers shall be ineligible to participate in the demonstration project if they are employed by a State, local, or tribal law enforcement agency that has in effect a statute, policy, or practice that prohibits its law enforcement officers from cooperating with Federal immigration enforcement agents (or if the State, local, or tribal law enforcement agency is otherwise in contravention of section 642(a) of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (8 U.S.C. 1373(a)).

    (d) Demonstration Project Requirements- (1) The e-learning training course provided under the demonstration project shall be accessible through the secure, encrypted on-line, e-learning website, within 90 days of the date of the enactment of this Act, and recruitment of participants shall begin immediately, and occur concurrently, with the e-learning training course's establishment and implementation.

    (2) The law enforcement officers selected to participate in the e-learning training course provided under the demonstration project shall undergo standard vetting procedures, pursuant to the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center Distributed Learning Program, to ensure that each individual is a bona fide law enforcement officer.

    (3) The law enforcement officers selected to participate in the e-learning training course provided under the demonstration project shall be granted continuous access, throughout the demonstration project's one-year period, to on-line course material and to other training and reference resources accessible through the on-line, e-learning website.

    (e) Report-

    (1) IN GENERAL- Not later than the end of the one-year period described in subsection (b), the Project Director shall transmit to the Committees on the Judiciary and on Homeland Security of the Senate and the House of Representatives a report about the e-learning training course completed by State, local, and tribal law enforcement officers through the demonstration project.

    (2) MATTERS TO BE INCLUDED- The report under paragraph (1) shall include the following:

    (A) An estimate of the cost savings realized by offering training through the e-learning training course as opposed to offering similar training through the residential classroom method.

    (B) An estimate of the difference between the 100,000 law enforcement officers who received training through the e-learning training course and the number of law enforcement officers who could have received training through the residential classroom method in the same one-year period.

    (C) The effectiveness of the e-learning training course with respect to student-officer performance.

    (D) The convenience accorded to student-officers with respect to their ability to access the e-learning training course at their own convenience and to return to the on-line, e-learning website for refresher training and reference.

    (E) The ability of the on-line, e-learning website to safeguard the student officers' private and personal information while providing supervisors with appropriate information about student performance and course completion.

    (f) Expansion of Program-

    (1) IN GENERAL- Following the completion of the demonstration project, the Department of Homeland Security shall continue to make available the on-line, e-learning website and the e-learning training course, enroll in the e-learning training course 100,000 new State, local, and tribal law enforcement officers annually, and consult with Congress regarding the addition, substitution, or removal of participating States.

    (2) LIMITATION ON PARTICIPATION- Officers shall be ineligible to participate in the expansion of this program if they are employed by a State, local, or tribal law enforcement agency that has in effect a statute, policy, or practice that prohibits its law enforcement officers from cooperating with Federal immigration enforcement agents (or if the State, local, or tribal law enforcement agency is otherwise in contravention of section 642(a) of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (8 U.S.C.

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