Thread: HR3333 is Tom Tancredo selling out

H.R.3333 was a bill introduced in the 109th Congress. There has been no similar bill introduced by Rep. Tancerdo in the 110th Congress. It was an excellent bill.

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Setting the Record Straight -
Tancredo's Brilliant Plan for Stopping Illegal Immigration
and Reducing Job Loss
by Linda Muller
For the Cause - forthecause.us





Tancredo offers a comprehensive plan for dealing with the pernicious effects of illegal immigration on our society. Open border advocates dismiss it as racist. Corporations scoff it as unworkable. Labor unions cannot fathom it. Some conservatives find fault with it. Yet Tancredo manages to plug most of the policy and enforcement holes that are responsible for the current untenable situation. His proposal may not be right for any particular group, but it is right for the United States of America.



Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) has come under massive criticism for his REAL GUEST Act of 2005, which seeks to provide remedies for many of the nation's most intractable illegal immigration problems, but without resorting to an amnesty or a promise of citizenship. Open border advocates, of course, condemn Tancredo's proposal with all the usual racist rant.

What is surprising, however, is the severity of criticism coming from a small number of Tancredo's traditional base. A few of these columnists and activists mistakenly claim the REAL GUEST Act:

Acknowledges a necessity for guest workers
Allows visa numbers to be set by employers
Does nothing to stop illegal immigration

These criticisms, raised by a few, nevertheless have been resonating through the nation's conservative talk shows and print media as if Tancredo has somehow sold them out. Nothing can be further from the truth…

In HR 3333, Tancredo lays out a practical blueprint for dealing effectively with illegal immigration from multiple vantage points. The proposal also includes the strongest enforcement mechanisms and penalties for violations of any plan yet introduced in either the House or Senate.

Guest workers

Critics say Tancredo's proposal is a sellout to corporate interests because it acknowledges America's need for guest workers.

While Tancredo does allow for the potential future use guest workers if market conditions warrant - meaning a palpable rise in the wages for American workers, none of the corporate interests that he has purportedly "sold out to" have any interest in advancing his proposal because there is no advantage in it for them. Furthermore, the REAL GUEST Act does not include any amnesty component or path to citizenship, and it delays implementation of his temporary guest worker program until long-promised enforcement mechanisms have been implemented and proven effective in stopping illegal entry and preventing temporary workers from staying.

Restructuring the visa program

In Tancredo's proposal, employers really do not control the number of visas that will be issued to temporary workers. In fact, the proposal puts stricter prerequisites on the issuance of such visas - while leaving little room for bureaucrats to supplant the administration's policy desires for the law.

In HR 3333, Tancredo proposes a restructuring of the current "H" non-immigrant visa programs, which will continue normal operations until his new program is implemented.

Tancredo would eliminate the current "H" visa classifications that have proven so troublesome in recent years, including:


H-1B (high-tech)
H-1C (nurses)
H-2A (agricultural)
H-2B (seasonal)
The current system is very lax in terms of requiring employers to prove there is a shortage of qualified American workers. In fact, big corporations can easily lobby Congress for visa increases to the point where the program is virtually meaningless. Tancredo's proposal replaces these non-immigrant visas with a single "H" non-immigrant visa for potential workers, using the same strict market test and employer prerequisites for both skilled and unskilled workers.

Foreign workers would be pre-screened before they would be made available to employers for additional, short-term labor, while ensuring that U.S. workers are not harmed. The mechanism works like this…

Employers would be required to file a petition for an "H" worker with the Department of Labor. "H" non-immigrant visas would be issued only when no qualified and lawfully present workers are currently available to perform the work, and when no such workers could be trained in less than one year. In other words, if no Americans are immediately available to do the work, the next step would be for the employer to train them to do the work before resorting to the last-gasp option of seeking approval for guest workers.

The market test in Tancredo's bill does not mean that new "H" visas will be authorized any time American workers' real wages are rising, as some critics have asserted. Only when real wages rise for six (6) consecutive months, truly indicating a labor shortage, can "H" visas be allowed and then only in that region and job skill category. If wages became stagnant - even for a single month, indicating a loosening labor market, "H" visa petition approval is shut down again. Thus, the number of "H" visas expands and contracts with long-term market conditions - and not at the whim of an oft-lobbied Congress.

Tancredo would limit the stay of "H" non-immigrants to 365 days during any two-year period, but allow them to renew their visas upon the expiration of each two-year period. This ensures that workers retain the status of "guest" and that they do not make this country their new home.

But Tancredo does not stop there… He would require every alien seeking "H" non-immigrant status to sign a legally enforceable affidavit attesting to their understanding that they will be ineligible to adjust to lawful permanent resident status or to change status to any other non-immigrant classification. Immigrant workers also would be prohibited from bringing spouses and children with them into this country.

Current law would be amended to clarify that a child born in the United States to an "H" non-immigrant parent is not a U.S. citizen at birth, unless the child's other parent is a citizen or a lawful permanent resident.

Any alien who violates a term or condition of their "H" non-immigrant visa would be barred from receiving any immigrant or non-immigrant visa for 10 years. This provision of Tancredo's proposal would include visa overstays.

Adding bureaucracy

The same critics of the current lax enforcement of our southern border and who are calling for 15,000 additional border patrol agents, now take Tancredo to task for wanting to add more bureaucracy to the federal government.

Tancredo's proposal calls for more immigration inspectors, detention and removal officers, and criminal investigators for benefits fraud. He also wants more attorneys for the ICE Legal Program to free up the logjam that is responsible for so many illegal aliens being set free to roam about society.

It is simply a fact of life that it takes more people to secure our borders as it does to enforce the law after illegal aliens get here. Both require a stronger federal response and there's no way this can be avoided, particularly after the problems posed by illegal immigration have been allowed to fester for so long.

Stopping illegal entry

Let's be honest - there is no way to totally stop illegal immigration. A 50-foot wall would help, but people will always find a way. What we can do is rigorously discourage this type of illegal activity by taking away the incentives that make it worthwhile to sneak into this country in the first place. One way to do this is to go after employers who routinely exploit illegal immigrants for their cheap labor.

HR 3333 increases the fines on employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens. Company executives would be subject to imprisonment if they are found to have engaged in a pattern or practice of such violations.

When half of a company's workforce is composed of illegal aliens -- such as the Cargill meat packing plant in Schuyler, Nebraska -- who have purchased fraudulent social security cards and birth certificates, that would constitute an undeniable pattern of illegal activity. Just one successful prosecution of a company executive would send a clear message to the rest of the business community.

Tancredo also wants to establish identification standards for receiving federal benefits by requiring states and localities to meet certain minimum standards for issuing birth certificates. While many states are enacting birth/death registries already, which will help, we are only as strong as the weakest state's law, which is why Tancredo demands uniform adherence to a standard.

Unlawful presence in the U.S. would be a felony, punishable by fine, imprisonment, and asset forfeiture. Violators would be automatically ineligible for a non-immigrant work visa. In addition, state and local law enforcement officers are reminded of their inherent authority to help enforce federal immigration laws.

These provisions of HR 3333 alone would greatly stem the flow of illegal aliens into this country, plus assist law enforcement at all levels by giving them the proper tools to arrest and prosecute illegal aliens, instead of just relying on an absurdly under-resourced and seemingly disinterested ICE bureaucracy.

These measures, if implemented, would make it difficult for illegal aliens to live, work, and remain in the United States illegally. These measures are designed to force attrition -- most illegal aliens who face a high risk of apprehension, are unable to find work and are unable to profit from their presence in this country will have no choice but to return to their home countries voluntarily.

Tancredo's proposal also calls for the presence of U.S. troops at or near the border to deter illegal border crossings. Troops conducting training exercises on the border would make an effective barrier to illegal immigration.

He would also amend the criminal statute barring use of the Army and Air Force as a posse comitatus to prevent unlawful entry into the United States.

Minimizing other impacts on society

To relieve the pressure on our healthcare system, Tancredo would have Congress appropriate funds to fully reimburse providers of federally mandated emergency medical treatment of illegal aliens.

The current policy of not fully reimbursing healthcare providers for these costs has resulted in the closure of 84 hospitals in California alone in recent years. When hospitals close, this financial burden merely gets shifted to the hospitals that have managed to stay afloat. Eventually, they will succumb as well, denying even more people access to timely healthcare and driving medical costs even higher.

To qualify for the reimbursement of emergency medical costs, Tancredo would have the healthcare provider collect and report to DHS all citizenship information and other non-clinical information concerning each illegal alien treated.

The bottom line

Tancredo offers a comprehensive plan for dealing with the pernicious effects of illegal immigration on our society. Open border advocates dismiss it as racist. Corporations disdain it as unworkable. Labor unions cannot fathom it. Some conservatives find fault with it. Yet Tancredo manages to plug most of the policy and enforcement holes that are responsible for the current untenable situation. His proposal may not be right for any particular group, but it is right for the United States of America. That's all we want from our elected representatives.

Thanks for clearing this up. I should have researched this more as I was emailed a link to what looks like old history and seems to be some misleading details
Tom Tancredo #1 :P

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Your Top 10 Questions Answered -
Tancredo's Brilliant Plan for Stopping Illegal Immigration
and Reducing Job Loss
by Nathan J. Muller
For the Cause - forthecause.us





With the publication of our original article, we received emails with questions about Rep. Tom Tancredo's REAL GUEST Act of 2005, otherwise known as H.R. 3333. Since many of the questions reveal genuine, well-reasoned concern about the content of H.R. 3333 and the potential impacts it would have if implemented, we feel a responsibility to elaborate on our views, and will continue this dialogue for as long as there is interest among our readers. Some of the answers have numbers in brackets, which refer to the page numbers of H.R. 3333.



1. Why did Tancredo go through all the trouble of writing this bill, when all he really needed to do was push for cancellation of the H1-B program, which is robbing Americans of tens of thousands of good-paying technical jobs?

Tom Tancredo did not disappoint his base on this issue. On March 15th of this year he introduced H.R. 1325, which amends the Immigration and Nationality Act to repeal authorities relating to H1-B visas for temporary workers.

On April 4th of this year, this bill went from the House Committee on the Judiciary to the Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims. To date, there has been no action on the bill. In any case, H.R. 1325 does not address the full range of interrelated issues as does H.R. 3333.

The REAL GUEST Act of 2005 addresses the abuses of the H1-B program by wiping out all current visa categories and replacing them with a single "H" classification for both skilled and unskilled jobs, making it much more difficult for employers to hire aliens, and charging the Labor Department with responsibility for enforcing the new system. The idea behind this is to make it extremely difficult for big corporations to influence Congress for visa increases.

2. H.R. 3333 seems to be providing an infrastructure that facilitates guest worker entry into the United States, rather than protecting American jobs.

Actually, just the opposite is true -- on both counts. H.R. 3333 not only makes it very difficult for illegal aliens to qualify for American jobs, but compels employers to hire and train Americans first, and even protects jobs for Americans.

Alien requirements

To qualify for employment in the U.S., an alien would have to go through a rigorous screening process that could hardly be described as "facilitation" [11-15]:

They must be physically present in their home country.
They must pay a visa processing fee.
They must file an employment application.
They must sign a legally enforceable affidavit that waives eligibility for public assistance and U.S. citizenship for a child born during their stay here. They must agree not to apply for a change in immigrant or non-immigrant status.
They will be added to a database of pre-screened workers, rather than apply for a particular job.
They will remain in their home country until an employer is authorized to hire for a particular job opening.
They will submit to fingerprinting and photographing, and undergo a criminal background and health check.
Upon selection by an employer, they must undergo another background check against criminal and terrorist databases within a one-week window prior to admission into the U.S.
Aliens not selected for employment within 2 years are removed from the database unless they submit an updated application.
An alien who violates any of these terms for admission is barred from receiving any visa for a period of 10 years.
Employer requirements

H.R. 3333 specifies a mechanism that would ensure employment preference for American workers, skilled and unskilled. It would also protect American jobs.


Employers must seek Americans to fill jobs. [3]
When qualified Americans are not available, up to one year of training must be provided to Americans to qualify them to do the job. [3]
Only when Americans cannot be found or trained to do the job can the employer submit a petition to the Department of Labor to request a list of pre-screened, available aliens. [15]
The wage rate or salary being offered for the job must be at least equal to the median national wage rate or the prevailing wage, whichever is greater. [7]
An amount must be deposited into an escrow account to cover the alien's trip home when the job ends or the period of authorized admission into this country expires. [8]
If the financial circumstances of the employer change over time to the extent that it must lay off workers, the employer must first terminate guest workers holding equivalent jobs slated for elimination. [9]
Employers will fund the database system that administers alien job applications. [6-7]
Employers face a fine of $25,000 for each unauthorized alien, imprisonment for up to one (1) year, or both. [65]
3. Tancredo's proposal is the implementing legislation for George Bush's plan for a government system of matching "willing employers" and "willing workers."
Not true… As noted, Tancredo's proposal offers a mechanism that goes to great lengths to match American employers with American workers. Only in the most extreme circumstances can an American employer seek alien workers. Tancredo's proposal acknowledges that this situation at least falls within the realm of possibility and that a solution should be available if needed. This is nothing at all like the Bush plan or the McCain-Kennedy plan.

4. But the real issue is that employers can easily manipulate wages to justify hiring alien workers; after all, Americans cannot live on the low wages alien workers would accept.

Tancredo's proposal prevents employers from keeping wages artificially low so that only alien workers would take the jobs.

The Labor Department already gathers statistics on employment rates and wage trends by occupational category and geographic region. With Tancredo's proposed job database, the Labor Department will have one more tool for monitoring compensation to prevent employer abuse.

If wages in a particular job category in a geographic region have been stagnant or in decline for the 6-month period immediately preceding an employer's filing of a petition to hire alien workers, the Labor Department will decline the petition. [5-6]

Since the Labor Department's decision is determined by trends over a 6-month period over an entire geographic region, there is little chance that an employer will get away with wage manipulation.

To prevent an employer from deliberately setting wage rates so low that the job will appeal only to aliens, Tancredo's proposal also specifies that the wage rate or salary being offered for the job will be at least equal to the median national wage rate for the occupation, as determined by the Occupational Employment Statistics survey of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, or the prevailing wage, whichever is greater. [7]

5. Much of Tancredo's proposal seems to hinge around a job bank. This sounds expensive… and why should our taxpayer dollars be used to pay for a system that is designed for collecting the job applications of alien workers?

Much of the infrastructure of the job bank is already in existence in the form of state employment agency databases and Labor Department databases. All that remains is to arrange for employment agencies and employers to gain secure, password protected access to the shared data.

The job bank is funded by employers who expect to use the database system. They will be required to pay a fee of $10 per worker sought. The fee will be paid to the Labor Department, which will use the money to maintain and improve the job bank. Any excess funds will be used to investigate abuses of the new "H" non-immigrant program described in H.R. 3333. [6-7]

Since we're on the topic of costs, worth noting is that if an employer hires an alien, the employer must also post in escrow an amount to cover the alien's trip home when the job ends or the period of authorized admission into this country expires. Not only does this eliminate an excuse for an alien not returning home on time, it spares taxpayers the expense to get them there. [8]

6. But this database will be "Internet-based" and we all know that the Internet is not very secure. This opens the door to fraud and abuse…

The jobs database is indeed Internet-based [5] and it is always prudent to raise security concerns when making any database accessible on the Internet.

H.R. 3333 mentions or alludes to four (4) techniques that will provide secure access to the jobs database: authorization, secure access, passwords, and database access privileges.


Secure access is achieved by a system of encryption that creates a virtual private network (VPN) through the public Internet. The VPN consists of point-to-point links between every authorized user and the database. The information traversing these links is encrypted, so that even if it could be intercepted by a hacker, the information would be unintelligible. This concept is not fully explained in H.R. 3333. The bill simply uses the phrase, "secure, password-protected access…" [5] The words "secure" and "access" or simply "secure access" is what VPNs are designed to achieve.

Passwords are something everyone with a computer is probably familiar with. But on a properly managed network, passwords are tightly controlled and must comply with an established standard. They must be changed several times a year. They automatically expire when not used within a given period of time. Users are locked out after a number of unsuccessful attempts. And when people leave the organization, their passwords are immediately revoked. Only the phrase "password-protected" is used in the bill [5], so readers may not have gotten a full understanding of how this type of security can be rigorously implemented. It is the responsibility of the security administrator to supervise password standards compliance.

Authorization is enforced by a process called "authentication" whereby a user must prove that he or she is actually who they claim to be before they can access the network. Let's just call this "proof of identity". This type of security is carried out by establishing a Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) management system that issues and administers digital certificates. These digital certificates are assigned to users of the database system who have been prescreened as authorized to access the database. This concept is not fully explained in H.R. 3333. Only the word "authorized" is used in the bill, but authentication is how authorization is enforced over a VPN or any other type of data network - passwords are not solely relied upon to do this.

Database access privileges refer to where and how deeply into a database an authorized user is allowed to go in their quest for information. H.R. 3333 does not specifically mention the phrase "database access privileges" but does allude to how it works:
"The Secretary shall not provide the employer with access to contact information, other than the alien's name, about any alien listed in the database." [16]
"Once an employer selects one or more workers in the database, the Secretary shall provide the employer with contact information for the worker so the employer can make an offer of employment." [16]


H.R. 3333 is sketchy on the security details of the jobs database, and this is how it should be. That's because the Labor Department will have the responsibility for coming up with the enabling mechanisms to carry out the directives outlined in the legislation. Leaving these details to appropriate departments and regulatory agencies is how all legislation gets implemented and enforced. Congress exercises oversight of the departments and regulatory agencies.

7. Why are you wasting so much time pushing this when some in the immigration and jobs movements have already urged Tancredo to withdraw H.R. 3333?

We believe H.R. 3333 is a tightly integrated plan that effectively addresses many complex issues simultaneously:


Illegal immigration
Protecting American jobs
Minimizing and, in most cases, eliminating opportunities for fraud
Growing the economy
Tightening national security
Enhancing law enforcement and border control
And creating an environment that makes it so difficult for illegal aliens to remain in this country that they will have no recourse but to head home.
All this is accomplished without resorting to an amnesty or setting up a path to citizenship for potential guest workers. The word "potential" is emphasized here because Tancredo's proposal creates a framework within which preferences are created for Americans to fill both skilled and unskilled jobs, making it extremely difficult to hire aliens.
H.R. 3333 does not make it easy for employers to hire guest workers, and the guest workers themselves are subject to a grueling screening process. The combination of just these two components greatly discourages the use of foreign labor in the United States for all types of jobs.

8. If Tancredo's H.R. 3333 is so "brilliant" why has it attracted only three co-sponsors?

Rep. Tom Tancredo has been on the outs with the GOP since he started his crusade for immigration reform. With his crusade, Tancredo has upset the cozy relationship most Republicans (and Democrats) have with their corporate benefactors who want to maintain the status quo - the uncontrolled flow and exploitation of cheap alien labor into this country.

Tancredo's situation with the GOP has worsened since he recently endorsed Minuteman co-founder Jim Gilchrest who is running as an American Independent Party candidate in the 48th Congressional District race against Republican state Sen. John Campbell.

And then there's this… Despite illegal immigration being the number one issue Americans are concerned about, and Tom Tancredo being the number one spokesman in Congress on this issue, he was passed over for a speaking slot at the Southern Leadership Republican Conference to be held next spring in Memphis.

Not many Republicans want to risk becoming too closely aligned with Tom Tancredo right now, less so as the 2006 elections approach, even though they may agree with him on immigration issues.

9. The Hayworth bill has attracted 26 co-sponsors, including Tancredo. Wouldn't it be best to abandon Tancredo's bill and go with Hayworth's bill instead?

Just because Tancredo has endorsed the Hayworth bill doesn't mean that even he thinks his own bill is woefully deficient. It simply means that he recognizes that the Hayworth bill also has merit and is worthy of further consideration. After all, there is significant overlap in the two bills in many critical areas.

Among the key reasons people like Hayworth's Enforcement First Immigration Act of 2005 (H.R. 393 is because it:


Espouses "zero tolerance" for illegal aliens by giving them 30 days to leave this country voluntarily upon order of removal.
Reduces the number of visas available, particularly for Mexican citizens.
Adds border patrol agents.
Puts the U.S. military on the border.
Ends automatic citizenship for babies born on U.S. soil.
Authorizes state and local law enforcement officers to enforce immigration law.
Tancredo's proposal includes all these provisions and makes unlawful presence a felony. As felons, illegal aliens could be arrested and then fined, imprisoned for up to one (1) year, and have their assets subject to forfeiture. [27] In addition, state and local police have the inherent authority to arrest illegal aliens. [77]

In order to have any hope of working in the U.S., illegal aliens in this country would have to leave and then apply for work from their home country.

Hayworth is rightly applauded for his focus on enforcement first. But Tancredo has the same focus in his bill [17-19]. None of Tancredo's ideas discussed throughout this paper can be implemented unless the Department of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Attorney General and Secretary of State, certify to Congress that ten (10) critical enforcement provisions have been implemented: [17-19]


The automated entry-exit control system authorized in 1996 must be operational.
All non-citizens already in the U.S. legally and all aliens authorized to enter the U.S. must be issued biometric, machine-readable travel and entry documents, as authorized in 2002.
Neither immigrant nor non-immigrant visas are being issued to nationals of foreign states that refuse to permit the return of their nationals who are ordered removed from the U.S.
The Employer Authorization Status Instant Check (EASI) must be operational to prevent fraudulent use of social security numbers.
All of the additional border patrol agents authorized in 2004 must be hired, trained and deployed; and illegal entry has been reduced to a level lower than that of annual removals.
The Chimera system for collecting photographs and fingerprints of all aliens entering or leaving the U.S. must be operational.
All DHS databases containing information on non-citizens and the National Crime Information Center database are interoperable.
The absconder rate for aliens ordered removed from the U.S. must be less than 5 percent for the previous 12-month period.
ICE must respond to every request by State and local police by taking custody of illegal aliens or reimbursing authorities for the cost of detaining and transporting them.
At least 80 percent of visa overstays must be located and removed within one (1) year of overstaying.
A final point: cross co-sponsorship of competing bills is very common. We don't read anything into this.

10. But if our nation's current immigration laws are not enforced now, why bother with H.R. 3333?

Due to the groundswell of anger arising from all corners of our country, the climate in Washington is changing. A majority of Republicans are increasing the pressure on President Bush to address illegal immigration. The GOP leadership in the Senate is even going forward with plans for hearings this fall, instead of putting them off until next year. This will put pressure of the House to hold its own hearings.

As the election season gets into full swing, this pressure will intensify. Although Bush can retire comfortably on his Texas ranch, even he understands that Republicans who are running for re-election must be able to show constituents that progress is being made on this issue, or risk being clobbered by challengers.

So an opportunity is opening up for meaningful reform and Tancredo's proposal offers a well thought out plan that can influence the outcome. That's why we find critical arguments against H.R. 3333 so useful -- it gives us a chance delve deeper into the issues raised by Tancredo so that we will all be better prepared to fully exploit this emerging opportunity by having accurate facts and details at hand.

Wrapping up

There is much more to debate about H.R. 3333. In the coming weeks we intend to address the national security implications of this bill as well as the jobs database, with particular attention to its expansion potential, privacy, and centralized-management-of-the-economy implications. Of course, we will continue to address all of your other concerns, including any questions you might have about this article or the Hayworth bill.

We do not believe we are wasting our time by bringing some precision into this debate. We do it for the cause…

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Before any nonimmigrant worker visas would have been issued pursuant to H.R. 3333, ten separate certifications were required to be made by the Secretary of Homeland Security. Above is a link to that portion of the bill and below is a copy of that portion of the bill.

SEC. 111. CERTIFICATIONS.

(a) Secretary of Homeland Security- Prior to the implementation of the program described in subtitle A, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Attorney General and the Secretary of State, shall certify to the Congress the following:

(1) The automated entry-exit control system required under section 110 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (8 U.S.C. 1221 note), as amended, is fully implemented and functional, all ports of entry have functional biometric machine readers, and the entry into and departure from the United States of all noncitizens is recorded.

(2) All noncitizens already in the United States legally and all aliens authorized to enter the United States have been issued biometric, machine-readable travel and entry documents, as required by section 303 of the Enhanced Border Security and Visa Entry Reform Act of 2002 (8 U.S.C. 1732).

(3) Neither immigrant nor nonimmigrant visas are being issued to nationals of foreign states that refuse to permit the return of their nationals who are ordered removed from the United States.

(4) The EASI Check system described in section 221 of this Act is fully implemented and functional and DHS has an enforcement plan in place that targets U.S. employers based on information from DHS, SSA, and IRS regarding the EASI-Check system, mismatched SSNs, and incorrectly filed information returns.

(5) All of the additional Border Patrol agents authorized under the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-45 have been hired, trained, and deployed and, if necessary, a sufficient number of United States military personnel has been deployed to support the Border Patrol so illegal entry has been reduced to the point that it is estimated at a lower level than annual removals.

(6) The Chimera system required under section 202(a)(2) of the Enhanced Border Security and Visa Entry Reform Act of 2002 (8 U.S.C, 1722(a)(2)) is fully implemented and functional and includes digital fingerprints and photographs of all aliens granted admission to the United States and all aliens ordered removed or granted voluntary departure from the United States.

(7) All DHS databases containing information on noncitizens and the National Crime Information Center database are interoperable.

( The absconder rate for aliens ordered removed from the United States is less than five percent for the previous 12-month period.

(9) Section 287(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1357(g)) and sections 209, 232, and 233 of this Act have been fully implemented and United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement employees respond to every request for assistance from State and local law enforcement authorities, either by taking custody of illegal aliens located by those authorities or by reimbursing those authorities for the costs of detaining and transporting such aliens.

(10) At least 80 percent of visa overstays are located and removed within one year of overstaying.

(b) Impact Study- Prior to the implementation of the program described in subtitle A:

(1) STUDY- The Director of the Bureau of the Census, jointly with the Secretaries of Agriculture, Education, Energy, Health and Human Services, Homeland Security, Housing and Urban Development, Interior, Justice, Labor, Transportation, and Treasury and the Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency shall undertake a study examining the impacts on U.S. infrastructure and quality of life of--

(A) current annual levels of immigrant and nonimmigrant admissions;

(B) illegal immigration; and

(C) implementation of the program established in subtitle A.

(2) REPORT- The Director of the Bureau of the Census shall submit to Congress a report on the findings of the study required in paragraph (1) of this subsection, including the following information:

(A) An estimate of the total legal and illegal alien populations of the United States, as they relate to the total population.

(B) The projected impact of legal and illegal immigration on the size of the population of the United States over the next 50 years; the regions of the country that are likely to experience the largest increases; and the small towns and rural counties that are likely to lose their character as a result of such growth.

(C) The impact of the current and projected foreign-born populations on the natural environment, including the consumption of nonrenewable resources, waste production, and disposal, the emission of pollutants, and the loss of habitat and productive farmland; an estimate of the public expenditures required to maintain current standards in each of these areas; and the degree to which current standards will deteriorate if such expenditures are not forthcoming.

(D) The impact of the current and projected foreign-born populations on employment and wage rates, particularly in industries in which the foreign born are concentrated; and an estimate of the associated public costs.

(E) The impact of the current and projected foreign-born populations on the need for additions and improvements to the transportation infrastructure of the United States; an estimate of the public expenditures required to meet this need; and the impact on Americans' mobility if such expenditures are not forthcoming.

(F) The impact of the current and projected foreign-born populations on enrollment, class size, teacher-student ratios, and the quality of education in public schools; an estimate of the public expenditures required to maintain current median standards; and the degree to which those standards will deteriorate if such expenditures are not forthcoming.

(G) The impact of the current and projected foreign-born populations on homeownership rates, housing prices, and the demand for low-income and subsidized housing; the public expenditures required to maintain current median standards in these areas; and the degree to which those standards will deteriorate if such expenditures are not forthcoming.

(H) The impact of the current and projected foreign-born populations on access to quality health care and on the cost of health care and health insurance; an estimate of the public expenditures required to maintain current median standards; and the degree to which those standards will deteriorate if such expenditures are not forthcoming.

(I) The impact of the current and projected foreign-born populations on the criminal justice system in the United States; and an estimate of the associated public costs.

Thanks tancredofan,

Tom Tancredo is right for the United States of America.

Ditto from me. I didn't understand all the provisions of this bill, but it seemed to me Tancredo was still trying to do the right thing.

Originally Posted by StokeyBob

Thanks tancredofan,

Tom Tancredo is right for the United States of America.

Originally Posted by Paige

It used to be this way. Immigrants were brought in only for the time they were needed and sent home. That is the correct way of doing it. Then corporations got involved in using them to make more money then the they started paying big money to keep politicans on there side.
Now we have Chaos.
Our politicans are following big business and not the working in the best interests of the people.

Seems that Hewlett-Packard, Intel and Microsoft started taking advantage of the loopholes, and other corporations, including the Federal government tacitly came in behind. Tata from India then began taking advantage of the natural partnership between outsourcing and H1-B's.

I REALLY LIKE TANCREDO. BUT I DONT BELIEVE WE NEED WORKERS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES.

WE HAVE PLENTY OF PEOPLE HERE. AMERICANS CAN BE TRAINED. WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FOR SO LONG THAT WE HAVE A WORKER SHORTAGE, THAT IT IS HARD TO GET IT OUT OF OUR HEADS. BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A WORKER SHORTAGE.

THERE ARE TONS OF UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. AND THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "JOB AMERICANS WONT DO". THAT IS JUST BS.

TRAIN THEM. PAY THEM DECENT WAGES. GIVE THEM A DECENT WORK ENVIRONMENT....AND YOU WILL HAVE WORKERS. AMERICAN WORKERS.

I have some very serious issues with the federal government reimbursing hospitals for treating illegal immigrants! Doing this will only encourage more hospitals to greet illegal immigrants with open arms. Actually hospitals will become eager to treat illegals if they know they'll profit from it. What we need is the individual states taking a more pro-active stance in getting rid of the illegals. over crowded schools, hospitals, and over extended social services is an incentive for states to get tough.

I commend Tancredo for the effort, however, I seriously doubt this bill will ever see the House floor, and I know it'll never reach President Bush for signature. Also, I agree with redpony, we don't need a stinking guest-worker program.