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07-08-2008, 11:27 PM #41Originally Posted by NoBueno
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07-08-2008, 11:46 PM #42
Good for you, AE. I'm glad you let 'em have it!
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07-09-2008, 12:13 AM #43
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Originally Posted by NOamNASTY
Thanks for jumping in...
I hate the bogeyman argument because by definition it is not an argument but rather a fear based emotional appeal that achieves nothing but divisiveness...throwing up a scary figure to chase you to another...same result.
As you stated - we are in serious trouble and I agree. When I first joined Alipac and even now as spelled out by William QUITE CORRECTLY and REPEATEDLY our business here is:
1. Idenfity the Issue: Illegal Immigration
2. Focus on the Goal: Bring and end to it.
3. Execute on an Objective: Knock any and all politicians and bureacrats who aid and abet illegal immigration out of the arena at all levels and in all parties.
Pretty straightforward and easy to follow agenda I would say beautiful in its simplicity...
The bogeyman argument literally tries to compromise and dillute the effectiveness of #3.
Communists and Socialists sure love it when we compromise don't they?
Maybe folks who throw out the "bogeyman" argument or "lesser of two evils" simply don't know better...or maybe they are disingenuous and purposeful. I'm not a moderator nor do I own this board...so I'll stop short of pointing fingers at this point.
It's nice to know that we are getting results as William and others have been pointing - but it is also not so nice to note that along with success comes the likelihood of more "bogeyman" tosses in an attempt to counter our success. Comes with the territory...
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07-09-2008, 11:12 AM #44
I don't care if they send you a donation letter from any group. Send it back with notations or letter or whatever this could be a very good activists tool using their own money.
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07-09-2008, 11:32 AM #45
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That's all our political system is doing. They keep us busy fighting each other while they steal our money.
Ralph Nader referred to this grand distraction (between the 2 dominant and publicly feuding [but privately cooperating, or, maybe ' conspiring' is a better word....] parties as choices between 'Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum[b]')
That really *is* the goal of the power structures that comprise our government. Maintenance of the status quo with increasing benefit to those who already hold power, being sure to impose every cost, pain, and agony on middle class and poorest Americans. In short, America's working folks MUST be sacrificed to ensure corporate prosperity - and are nary allowed an opportunity to ask 'why???'
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07-09-2008, 02:09 PM #46
NumbersUSA RED Alert today. Check the thread. House Ways and Means Committee trying to scuttle the E-verify system. Get it out to the radio stations, TV, etc. Get it out to your email addresses.
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