Thread: Illegals Demand Free Christmas Toys

A number of years I volunteered at a local homeless shelter and rehab place as a cook. The shelter also took donations for cloths for those in need and let people come in and look through and get cloths. There was this 1 hispanic family who came in 3 times a week (the max amount of days allowed a week) and every time they walked out with a big bag of cloths always the best of the donations. My co volunteer who assisted in that area one day followed them home to find out they had a garage sale going which later was confirmed was an every day sale selling the cloths they got from the shelter. This same family came in 3 times a month also for food boxes were the limit was one but they managed to get away sending a different adult family member each once seperately.

None of those people spoke a word of english and never once even said any sort of thanks for everything they recieved. One day one of our people asked if they needed a job that he may be able to help them and they turned it down because no papers to work. We tried going to the director to get them banned not because of being illegal but misure and selling the cloths meant to help the needy and the director refused for whatever reason he wouldn't say.

After that and seeing the same people in the welfare office which was right up the street never one word of english and none working I finally gave up on volunteering.

Hard part for me is I'd of expected that in Cali or a southern state near the border.... not in Michigan which was my home state. Especially hurt when I was down and out and homeless at a time (which is why I volunteered to give back to those who helped me) and the state wouldn't give me a dime of aid. I had to rely on a Christian Mission for help, not my state.

Originally Posted by ReggieMay

In our area, "needy" kids get backpacks filled with school supplies a couple of weeks before school starts. Backpacks and supplies are donated by churches, charities, etc. My illegal neighbor had 15-20 of the backpacks for sale at a yard sale, complete with school supplies. They bragged that they sent at least that many back to Mexico. They took all their kids to every distribution point to collect the free items. They do the same with food pantries, going from one to the next to the next.

I swear we must live in the SAME NEIGHBORHOOD!!! Now the schools (that are already failing) take longer vacations so 'they' can go home to Mexico and have more time to get back here before school starts up again.

Every media outlet is all about donating now. Guess who the majority of takers are. They are always there with their hand out.

Also, my son is in charge of a free food program for lower income families. Guess who the pushy ones are.

These people are even mean to one another. My son has to pull some of these women apart ever so often. He is always saying after it is over for the day...'Well, we survived another feeding frenzy."

Originally Posted by greenkat

I AM SO MAD I COULD SPIT!!! (AT THEM) PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP FOR OUR CHRISTMAS TOY PROGRAM ARE COMING IN TO PICK UP THEIR TOYS. - THEY PLAYED BY THE RULES

A FEW MINUTES AGO AN ILLEGAL CAME IN WITH 3 OTHER WOMEN AND DEMANDED TOYS FOR THEM ALSO BECAUSE WE DID NOT ADVERTISE IN SPANISH AND THERE WERE NO SPANISH APPLICATIONS.

IN OTHER WORDS THEY MARCHED IN AND GOT WHAT THEY WANTED!!!

HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO BET SHE WILL BE BACK WITH MORE ILLEGALS!!!

IF THEY DID NOT FILL OUT AN APPLICATION, THEN WHY GIVE THEM ANYTHING THIS IS AS SOUTHBRONX SAID BS. I GUESS SOME ONE WHO PLAYED BY THE RULES INFORMED THEM OF THE TOY GIVE AWAY. THEY THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED TO EVERYTHING FREEBIE THAT COMES DOWN THE PIKE. GOD, I WISH THEY WOULD GO THE H*L* HOME BECUSE I'M SICK OF THEIR DEMANDING WAYS

Originally Posted by greenkat

A FEW MINUTES AGO AN ILLEGAL CAME IN WITH 3 OTHER WOMEN AND DEMANDED TOYS FOR THEM ALSO BECAUSE WE DID NOT ADVERTISE IN SPANISH AND THERE WERE NO SPANISH APPLICATIONS.

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Originally Posted by LadyStClaire

IF THEY DID NOT FILL OUT AN APPLICATION, THEN WHY GIVE THEM ANYTHING THIS IS AS SOUTHBRONX SAID BS. I GUESS SOME ONE WHO PLAYED BY THE RULES INFORMED THEM OF THE TOY GIVE AWAY. THEY THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED TO EVERYTHING FREEBIE THAT COMES DOWN THE PIKE. GOD, I WISH THEY WOULD GO THE H*L* HOME BECUSE I'M SICK OF THEIR DEMANDING WAYS

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Originally Posted by southBronx

well stop them
what state is this ? that Bs

and our fearless leader probably at moment meeting with the hispanic caucas....it is such a slap in the face to Americans that Obama loves the illegals so much and has total disregard for the law

OUT PRESIDENT AND HE HAS TOTAL DISREGARD FOR THE LAW OF THE LAND!!!

Originally Posted by southBronx

well stop them
what state is this ? that Bs

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IF THEY DID NOT FILL OUT AN APPLICATION, THEN WHY GIVE THEM ANYTHING THIS IS AS SOUTHBRONX SAID BS. I GUESS SOME ONE WHO PLAYED BY THE RULES INFORMED THEM OF THE TOY GIVE AWAY. THEY THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED TO EVERYTHING FREEBIE THAT COMES DOWN THE PIKE. GOD, I WISH THEY WOULD GO THE H*L* HOME BECUSE I'M SICK OF THEIR DEMANDING WAYS

I WOULD NOT HAVE EVEN GIVEN THEM A BAG OF ROCKS BUT IT WAS NOT UP TO ME.

Originally Posted by greenkat

and our fearless leader probably at moment meeting with the hispanic caucas....it is such a slap in the face to Americans that Obama loves the illegals so much and has total disregard for the law

OUT PRESIDENT AND HE HAS TOTAL DISREGARD FOR THE LAW OF THE LAND!!!

I hate to say this, but someone dumb enough to vote for Obama kind of deserves the treason he wants to dish out. That's what you get when you vote for someone based entirely on his skin color...