Thread: Judge Rules Suburban New York Village Discriminated Against

How can you make the assertion that all day laborers are illegal immigrants and criminals without knowing the details of their status? The town could not demonstrate any connection between the day laborers and crime.

Bq
please find the post where one of our members asserted that ALL day laborers are ILLEGAL ALIENS---Illegals are NOT immigrants--and criminals. We would prefer, for accuracy, that you use the proper terms in describing those that sneak into our America ILLEGALLY. It is, according to American legal documents, Illegal Alien.

FYI: wikipedia is never a good choice to be used for verification. It's not a research source used by those that prefer accuracy, as it's an "open" posting entity and therefore can and has been found to include inaccurate information.

In the future, if you're making an accusation, include the quote from the poster so that we know to which you are referring. You've already been found to unjustly accuse several of our members, myself included. Being specific might help you a bit.

.

Justin, people who work as day laborers are generally very poor and cannot find a regular job, so they take whatever work they can find. There are many poor legal immigrants, even U.S. Citizens who are both Latino and poor.

Automatically labelling all Latino day laborers as illegal immigrants is unjust. Some may very well be illegal immigrants who can't find a job because of their status, but don't assume that every day laborer is an illegal immigrant.

In this case, police used aggressive enforcement against Latinos and potential employers at this location, without KNOWING the immigration status of the day laborers, and in some cases harassing Latinos who are not even day laborers. One was just sitting on a park bench enjoying his breakfast before reporting to his regular job, and was ordered to leave, though he violated no laws or park rules. Making law enforcement decisions based upon someone's ethnic appearance is discrimination.

Again, I encourage everyone to read the judge's decision with an open mind. I didn't detect any bias on her part, and she seemed to be objective in reviewing the evidence and drawing the conclusions. I'm sorry if her conclusions don't fit some individual's pre-conceived notions of day laborers, but we expect judges to make objective reviews of just the facts and to ignore conjecture and publicc opinion. Some judges are judicial activists who use cases to rewrite laws, but I did not read any of that in her decision.

Originally Posted by Justin

Why would a legal immigrant who worked hard to assimilate into this country and is experiencing backlash because of illegals be hanging around them at a day labor site?

Most legal immigrants who've worked hard and assimilated would NOT be in a day labor site, JUSTIN. They're trying to hang onto their own jobs that the ILLEGALS are scooping up by being used as slave labor.

Those that are, as we're finding, haven't assimilated generally and have no intention of doing so. They're generally transient people as well. More involved in crime and drugs. Some of these people have been in the last few AMNESTY groups.

Of course, there's always exceptions to any rule. So one cannot put a blanket label on them but we do know what is common.

Sad, isn't it, that PRO ILLEGALS are making it so very difficult for the Legal immigrants.

.

Again, Bq........I've asked you to produce the quote from your latest complaint.

As I said, you've used unfounded accusation too often now and must produce the Post for our scrutiny.

.

OK, here's an example:

Originally Posted by Shapka

Day-laborers are-by definition-illegal immigrants.

I'd call that stereotyping. Without knowing the immigration status of each and every day laborer, they're all illegal immigrants.

Originally Posted by bquasius

OK, here's an example:

Originally Posted by Shapka

Day-laborers are-by definition-illegal immigrants.

I'd call that stereotyping. Without knowing the immigration status of each and every day laborer, they're all illegal immigrants.

Well, actually, it's quite accurate.

Why do you think so many towns are attemting to stop this travesty?

>They're being hired illegally.
>Most towns have codes that prohibit this.
>They're not paying taxes ie: WORKING UNDER THE TABLE Uh oh.......that's a fed offense.

So, what's your problem? You don't believe that the laws should be upheld?

If you were sharp, you'd notice that he did NOT say ALIEN. He didn't lump them into the ILLEGAL ALIEN category, which would mean that they entered our country illegally.

.

Illegal Aliens should not be in America and they should not be working. Many find work at day labor sites because they "can't get a regular job" because they are criminals, don't have the proper paperwork or language skills. If an illegal alien is obtaining work at a location, it is facilitaing criminal activity and it should be shut down. No different than a gambeling den. Day labor sites are the scene of the crime.

Americans can go to the unemployment office and get a job. They don't need the day labor center.

Day Labor Sites are created for illegal aliens because they are dependent on them. Americans don't need day labor sites because they have other options and a valid social security number.

If day labor sites were regulated and required valid SS#s to seek employment, that would end this whole problem.

Dixie

Originally Posted by Dixie

If day labor sites were regulated and required valid SS#s to seek employment, that would end this whole problem.

Dixie

Now ther's an idea, if you cant beat em' regulate em'