Thread: Letter: Catholic bishops are wrong about amnesty

Letter: Catholic bishops are wrong about amnesty
By Julius Hollenhorst, St. Cloud
Published: October 26. 2007 12:30AM

Cardinal Roger Mahoney and the American Conference of Catholic Bishops are wrong on amnesty for illegal immigrants from Mexico.

One issue Mahoney and the bishops promote is that the illegal immigrants are here without families. Gosh, they come here illegally and complain their families are not here.

Haven't Mahoney and the bishops ever thought about the 160,000-plus U.S. military members in Iraq who are without their families? Or the 100,000 other service people worldwide without their families? Not to mention the many people who work jobs that take them far away from their families.

Another ridiculous statement: "The illegal immigrants do the jobs we won't do." So who has been doing these jobs all the years before these immigrant arrived? Been there, done that.

Also, it's a bad idea to just impose a fine on people who enter illegally and then give them citizenship after they pay it. You can't just buy your way into the United States.

... The present immigration laws work just fine. The problem is the Mexican government. Mexico has vast amounts of natural resources. But these are controlled by a handful of wealthy people. If Mahoney and the bishops want to help, they should confront Mexico's government. However, the Mexican clergy generally panders to the wealthy.

Of course, Mahoney couldn't even control sexual abuse in his own diocese. ...
http://www.sctimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar ... 006/NEWS01

Mr. Hollenhorst, I wouldn't single out the Latino Catholics as the sole violators of the immigration laws. Just about every denomination large enough to have a headquarters in New York (or Dallas, in the case of the SBC,) has staked out its position with the law-breakers: those who jump the border, work here illegally, drive without a license or insurance, take medical and education benefits that don't belong to them, and even occupy 32% of the beds in federal and state prisons. Or perhaps I should say, the denominational headquarters have sided with the well-established employers of illegal aliens.
The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

Mr. Hollenhorst, I wouldn't single out the Latino Catholics as the sole violators of the immigration laws. Just about every denomination large enough to have a headquarters in New York (or Dallas, in the case of the SBC,) has staked out its position with the law-breakers: those who jump the border, work here illegally, drive without a license or insurance, take medical and education benefits that don't belong to them, and even occupy 32% of the beds in federal and state prisons. Or perhaps I should say, the denominational headquarters have sided with the well-established employers of illegal aliens.
The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.

This is an enigma. If the motive of the various churches in their support of illegals is to increase contributions to their church, it must fail. I have to believe that the people who are being alienated by these actions contribute far more reliably than the illegal immigrants working for minimum wage and sending a portion of that to their home country. It would seem to be a net loss.

If the churches are seeking sheer attendance numbers, I suppose that could be accomplished. The church leaders who implement and support these plans are indeed assuming a higher role than they have been given. They are playing God in determining the moral issue to their liking, and they are playing jurist to determine the legal issue in their favor. It just cannot be condoned.

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

Mr. Hollenhorst, I wouldn't single out the Latino Catholics as the sole violators of the immigration laws. Just about every denomination large enough to have a headquarters in New York (or Dallas, in the case of the SBC,) has staked out its position with the law-breakers: those who jump the border, work here illegally, drive without a license or insurance, take medical and education benefits that don't belong to them, and even occupy 32% of the beds in federal and state prisons. Or perhaps I should say, the denominational headquarters have sided with the well-established employers of illegal aliens.
The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.

The one link between these denominations is that they are all in governmental form, we are suppose to have separation of Church and State. If the Catholics want our illegals then fine send them to the vatican, if the Episcopalians want these illegals then fine send them to the UK, the same could be said about the Lutherans etc... however do not establish a governmental religion here then demand we bring in illegals who make these Churches richer while we are burdened with the taxes to take care of them!

Just as the sanctuary cities should lose government funds, the churches that break the law by harboring and enabling illegal immigrants should lose their tax-exempt status. They are dishonoring the special class that has been granted them.

Priests, ministers, rabbis, etc. must accept the limitations on their exalted role. If they seek to be decision makers in areas of law, they must work to pass legislation that would exempt them from obeying our laws.

At the very least, they should be denied the protection of the law based on the system that they refuse to honor. Next time they have a burglary or an assault they could call an illegal immigrant to deal with it.

Originally Posted by Nouveauxpoor

Just as the sanctuary cities should lose government funds, the churches that break the law by harboring and enabling illegal immigrants should lose their tax-exempt status. They are dishonoring the special class that has been granted them.

Amen to that!

Priests, ministers, rabbis, etc. must accept the limitations on their exalted role. If they seek to be decision makers in areas of law, they must work to pass legislation that would exempt them from obeying our laws.

At the very least, they should be denied the protection of the law based on the system that they refuse to honor. Next time they have a burglary or an assault they could call an illegal immigrant to deal with it.

With their own governmental layout they definitely think they are above the law outside their jurisdiction, the Vatican, UK, Sweden, etc... and possibly within!

Originally Posted by Nouveauxpoor

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

Mr. Hollenhorst, I wouldn't single out the Latino Catholics as the sole violators of the immigration laws. Just about every denomination large enough to have a headquarters in New York (or Dallas, in the case of the SBC,) has staked out its position with the law-breakers: those who jump the border, work here illegally, drive without a license or insurance, take medical and education benefits that don't belong to them, and even occupy 32% of the beds in federal and state prisons. Or perhaps I should say, the denominational headquarters have sided with the well-established employers of illegal aliens.
The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.

This is an enigma. If the motive of the various churches in their support of illegals is to increase contributions to their church, it must fail. I have to believe that the people who are being alienated by these actions contribute far more reliably than the illegal immigrants working for minimum wage and sending a portion of that to their home country. It would seem to be a net loss.

NouveauxPoor, it IS a net loss, because it alienates the multitudes. But the denominational HQ's are more accountable to the BIG DONORS, which in some mainline churches are the foundations (Ford, Carnegie, Rockefeller, etc.) and corporate CEO's. So at that level, they cater to the big money, hoping the multitudes won't notice. It works on the sheeple and the average person in the pew who doesn't have a clue about anything that he doesn't see on TV. Be sure that denominational HQ has counted the dollars and figured out how to maximize net income.

What does Mahoney know about having a wife and kids?

Maybe the illegal is here to escape his homelife and to party down with his buds. You know, he doesn't have to go home and hear the wife nag him because he came in loaded.

Dixie

The catholic church has lost a lot of money to lawsuits and membership decline due to the child molesters infiltrating their ranks .

Celebacy is not natural or possible for most .


Protestants have lost too due to decline of members . Due to hypocracy and 'tolerence ' of things that should not be tolereated all under tha false interpretation of forgiveness and non judgement .

The younger generation is wise to our hypocracy and they are not going to church .

The catholic church has lost a lot of money to lawsuits and membership decline due to the child molesters infiltrating their ranks .

Celebacy is not natural or possible for most .


Protestants have lost too due to decline of members . Due to hypocracy and 'tolerence ' of things that should not be tolereated all under tha false interpretation of forgiveness and non judgement .

The younger generation is wise to our hypocracy and they are not going to church .

I dont think anyone could have said it better... corruption rules the church