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    LP candidate Bob Barr supports amnesty and open borders

    Bob Barr was on the Neil Bortz show this morning and said some extremely disturbing things. First off, he does not support "sealing the border." He said something about improving and increasing the official checkpoints so that we could check everyone that is coming in. However, he does not support impeding the travel of non-criminal immigrants who want to enter the country.

    Second, Bob Barr does not support the deportation of illegal aliens. He gave the same speech we've heard from all the current candidates, which is we can't round them all up. When Neil asked him what he would do about the illegals currently in the country he said that they would have come forward and submit to a background check. Those that refused to come forward and do so would be deported. In other words, those that submit to the background check would be authorized to stay assuming the background check came out clean. By my definition, that is amnesty!

    Mr. Barr is no better than McCain, Obama, and the Hildabeast on the issue of amnesty. Furthermore, he is probably worse than some of the others on securing the border. He's your typical LP platform follower. After reading another thread on here singing his praises, I was hoping he broke with the LP on the issue of illegal immigration and border security. This is really too bad, because I was hoping he was someone that would step up and secure our border and deal with the illegal immigrant problem without offering amnesty.

    Well, I'm throwing Mr. Barr into my "can't vote for" trash heap with the other amnesty clowns!

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    What is the point of him running for POTUS then?
    "If you love our nation, STOP illegal immigration!"

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    I STILL have No Body to vote for
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    This is what I brought up on of the other Threads. Libertarians are basically against what we want regarding illegal immigration. Really depressing, like the last Poster said , still nobody to vote for. I guess the Constitution Party might be the last hope.

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    Since I was 18 in 8 different elections I have consistently been a voter for the Libertarian Party. I became more aware of the issue of immigration in 2005 and I am aware now of the Libertarian Party having a long period of failure on the defense of citizens rights. For a period of time recently they did take a more reasonable attitude but now it is back to a position out of Reason Magazine. I will now have to familiarize myself with what other political alternatives there are so I can vote for a candidate willing to act to defend our rights.
    I support enforcement and see its lack as bad for the 3rd World as well. Remittances are now mostly spent on consumption not production assets.

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    I would like to hear Barr's interview. No offense, but I've heard Ron Paul misquoted for so long that I am a cynic.

    I'd really really really like to see William Gheen interview Barr.

    I would still probably vote for him. if for no other reason than his record is far better than anybody elses.

    Bob Barr isn't really a Libertarian, athough he officially is. He is a disgruntled Republican.

    Resaon Magazine is now more neocon than Libertarian, too. Even the CATO institute isn't pure these days. Socialism creeps. And what party do we have left? The Republians are pro amnesty as much as the Democrats these days.
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    AngelaTC wrote:

    I would like to hear Barr's interview. No offense, but I've heard Ron Paul misquoted for so long that I am a cynic.

    I'd really really really like to see William Gheen interview Barr.

    I would still probably vote for him. if for no other reason than his record is far better than anybody elses.

    Bob Barr isn't really a Libertarian, athough he officially is. He is a disgruntled Republican.

    Resaon Magazine is now more neocon than Libertarian, too. Even the CATO institute isn't pure these days. Socialism creeps. And what party do we have left? The Republians are pro amnesty as much as the Democrats these days.
    You can question my integrity if you like, however, I know what I heard. Perhaps Bob Barr was a Republican at one time, but now he is a Libertarian and he fully supports their platform on illegal immigration and border security. I find your following comment a little shocking:

    I would still probably vote for him. if for no other reason than his record is far better than anybody elses.
    Personally, I think his record as a former Republican is irrelavent because he is now a member of the LP and supports their platform of easy access for all non-criminals that want to come (I wasn't aware of this until this morning). Remember, I didn't know Bob Barr from the man in the moon until I heard him speak on the Bortz show this morning. I do not have an axe to grind, just reporting what I heard. If you wan't to call me a liar, that's your prerogative! However, know this - I'm looking for a quality candidate to support just as you are.

    Bob Barr isn't really a Libertarian, athough he officially is.

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    Sometimes, things have to get really really bad before they can get better. Lots of unemployment and the loss of most good paying jobs. This might make citizens fully understand what all this outsourcing + illegal cheap immigrants mean.

    I hate to use Nazi Germany as an example but it is a historical fact that the rise of the NSDP in Germany came as a result of social unrest, unemployment, and inflation. Do you see the similarities of today and post ww1 germany and the south during the civil war? Printing of money with no backing? Wealth leaving Germany because of reparations due to the Versailles treaty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW
    AngelaTC wrote:

    I would like to hear Barr's interview. No offense, but I've heard Ron Paul misquoted for so long that I am a cynic.

    I'd really really really like to see William Gheen interview Barr.

    I would still probably vote for him. if for no other reason than his record is far better than anybody elses.

    Bob Barr isn't really a Libertarian, athough he officially is. He is a disgruntled Republican.

    Resaon Magazine is now more neocon than Libertarian, too. Even the CATO institute isn't pure these days. Socialism creeps. And what party do we have left? The Republians are pro amnesty as much as the Democrats these days.
    You can question my integrity if you like,....<clip> If you wan't to call me a liar, that's your prerogative! However, know this - I'm looking for a quality candidate to support just as you are.

    [quote:1q4ob4ms]Bob Barr isn't really a Libertarian, athough he officially is.
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    Lighten up. I wasn't calling you a liar and I don't know you well enough to question your integrity.

    I meant what I said. I heard a lot of people twist Ron Paul's words out of context. Half the time I didn't quite hear what he said until I heard it again.

    The post wasn't about you. It was about Barr's voting record and his party affiliation.

    I'm not an amesty, but I don't want the Gestapo kicking in doors and checking our papers either. I don't really want the wall because I fear our government will be using it to keep us here at some point in the future.

    What I would like is a rule that says if you get caught living here illegally you forever forfeit your right to be a citizen. If you get caught here again, then you can partake in our welfare programs as a prisoner for a while.

    Barr's past voting record isolates him from a lot of the Libertarians, because he has changed his mind on issues that are near and dear to their hearts. They don't trust him because they think he's pandering to them. Maybe he is.

    NO matter what happens I'm probably not going to be very passionate about supporting him.
    "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." -- John Quincy Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUYMAN
    This is what I brought up on of the other Threads. Libertarians are basically against what we want regarding illegal immigration.
    Trust me, there are a lot of people here who understand this....
    Serve Bush with his letter of resignation.

    See you at the signing!!

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