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    WE CANNOT SETTLE FOR ENFORCEMENT ONLY. Someone said we should concentrate on the enforcement and come back for the rest. We have got to go for it all now or never.

    We need to get as many as we can out of the country and enforce the laws at the same time. Maybe our Government can figure out how to multitask.

    If we let them get away with a promise of enforcement, then that means we have to absorb the ones already here. And in 10 years we will have 12 million more to absorb.

    DEPORTATION AND ENFORCEMENT


    I saw a cute bumper sticker that said

    THEY SAY NO JUSTICE NO PEACE...WE SAY NO JUSTICE KNOW PEACE.

    Amen to that.

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    Some of the people talking against it are saying part of the package is family reunification. I believe one of the talkers was a lawmaker.

    In essence they can bring their families here - their grandparent, etc.

    I thought it was strange also since I don't think legal immigrants get to do that - do they?

    It is part of the amnesty deal as I understand it.
    The idea of Family Reunification was put into immigration law by LBJ. Prior to that, we used the quota system in which we let x number of people in from a particular country. It basically says that a percentage I think 77% of all new immigrants should be relatives of current residents.

    Most of the current bills will make non-working spouse and children, about 3.8 million, legal and they will also increase the cap of family based migration by 254,000 plus.

    http://www.minutemanproject.com/pdf_fil ... arison.pdf

    From what I seen on the net it looks to be about 25 - 30 million new immigrants and guest workers and the current illegals within ten years but, I don't know how they are comming up with that number or how reliable it is.

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    If there are not more INS raids this week then we'll know it was just a comical political ploy. The pallet company wasn't even U.S. owned. Now if they raided Tysons that would mean something. But we know it's not going to happen.

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    WE are not getting things done, All I can see is people on this site chating. I also have been sending emails to gov people where is it going? The Illegals sure get theres. I told Feinstein when I see them comming across our borders sorry there not fammilys.THEY ARE SINGLE MEN.
    I posted that we should where a certon color t-shirt on a certon day,then we could show are suport that if all sites that are suporting stoping this crap thats going on we might have 25millon folks getting the massage out.with the same color same day.that might so we are all united.you go on a rallies were you shirt, you go see any of are gov people where your shirt then everyone is togeather.on my post about 45 people log on to it. but only on responce,thats sad
    I see illegals taking to the street, all over the place they get news covrage all over the place, where is ours,seams like we are all on the band wagon here but thats just ON HERE, NOT ON THE STREETS!!!!.
    hell we could get them from the mintemen people it could give them funds. WE HAVE TO GET EVERYONE TOGETHER a small group here and there we don't have much clout!!! We need to unite. Hey maybe t-shirts is corny lets here your plan.
    anyone watch the reoprt yesterday on cnn or what ever ch it was on about what was going on in Georga, The marine that was trying to get people to lesson. I may have paid off anyone no how to get in touch with him he had guts to stand up to them do WE. Yes I am pisst off this has been going on to long, and If it don't change I am gone, kind of hard to swim to a Island.or are they they there to?like HI.
    sending out emails to the senators and people that hire these Illegals,don't get covrage and we need covrage in a BIG way.
    I sent in a? to meet the press when kennedy was on I didn't hear any thing read from anyone was I still a sleep and I missed it I am ready to sign up for the min men caravan from calif to the finish. Hey sorry if this hits some the wrong way. but we need to get it together people or we won't make it . I am not sure if I can see it yet
    I left southern CA 16 years ago because of this I now live on the ca /nv border, and there are as many in NV as in CA. time to get of the soap box for NOW! but will add one more thing I was at one of the casino's a few months back a Illegal hit a big jack pot they wound not pay him because it ment he would have to pay taxes he had no ID no soc#

    VIVA LA NAGRA

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    Set it up! Tell us what color shirt and when.

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    Border fence is a sham issue,Hillary and her kooks support it , so you know its BS. We dont really need one if we had interior enforcement.
    Oh, I think that fence is very important. And I think if it had been done long ago, we wouldn't be in this mess today. I don't know if you realize it but most of the border with mexico is range land that people can just walk across at will. They claim they don't know where the border is sometimes. I think a fence would make it all quite clear, personally. It would eliminate any misunderstanding as to where the border is and that we don't want people coming across anywhere but at legal check points.
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    the ranchers that do have fences have them cut and their livestock get loose -- and to think the Constitution use to protect 'private property'
    "Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it" George Santayana "Deo Vindice"

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    Bush reportedly said today that we could not possibly deport all of the illegals. This means he has had open borders for 5+ years knowing full well he would ask for amnesty. He also said we should look at alternative sources of energy. Duh!! Ya think!! He specializes in closing the gate after the cow is gone.

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    Well as you can tell I am new to this site maybe it should have been put under a new subject. you know I was upset when I wrote it. it's like our gov is not hearing what we are saying. I see nothing on the news to realy support us only on CNN.or whats on this site our we getting our massage out? I have not seen anything about boycots,rallies,marches on the news or the paper,JUST ILLEGALS getting it.
    and every time I turn around our gov says give them Amnesty
    my thought was a way that we could be seen so I thought same color ,once a week we would be seen and was looking for feed back.
    and if it caught on with enough people then we could be in big numbers,and a way for us to unite on the same page.and maybe it might be a bigger impact.
    I will tell you on fridays, I will ware blue and if anyone wants to join me kool and if you want to tell everyone you know then do it .I will pass it on to all the people I know and have them pass it on and lets see if we can be SEEN

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    Billme- there is a post on general discussion where you can send a hand delivered letter to your reps for a small fee. It's not much but it's something. There will be other opportunities after the May 1 boycott I'd be willing to bet. I'll wear blue on Friday no problem why not my girlfriend says it matches my eyes, my wife is neutral on the subject. Just kidding (maybe).

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