Thread: McCain surges 6 points in NH

Here 'ya go...CoolHead...If you aren't convinced that McCain's anti-American stance on ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION makes him a traitor to this country...here are some other tidbits:

http://www.realchange.org/mccain.htm

John McCain's Skeleton Closet

John McCain is a maverick senator, Vietnam veteran and former prisoner of war for 5 years in North Vietnam. In 2000, he nearly beat George W. Bush by being an outspoken, even honest politician, which stunned everybody. He also is known for crafting bipartisan approaches to issues such as smoking and campaign reform.

This time around though, at 71, he apparently decided "now or never" and seems to have sold his soul, suddenly adopting a bunch of boilerplate conservative positions he was brave enough to resist 8 years ago. Now, conveniently, he's even claiming to be a Baptist instead of an Episcopalian.

It doesn't look like anyone's buying it though. McCain went from front runner to 3rd or 4th in various polls, spent all of his huge pile of cash and lost most of his staff. Maybe he'll be a maverick in a new way -- curing Republicans of their tendency to elect the candidate who "has earned it" by loyalty and longevity even if doomed to failure (e.g. Bob Dole.)

Here are some negative allegations:

That New Time Religion

John McCain grew up Episcopalian. He went to an Episcopalian high school. For at least 15 years, he has been listed as an Episcopalian in authoritative directories such as the Almanac of American Politics and Congressional Quarterly's Politics in America 2008. He told a reporter from McClatchy News Service in June 2007 that he was an Episcopalian.
Suddenly, in September 2007, he's campaigning in South Carolina, the heavily Baptist state where George W. Bush barely managed to stop McCain's presidential campaign 8 years ago. And guess what? McCain tells a reporter "By the way, I'm not Episcopalian. I'm Baptist."

When pressed, he said he's attended the North Phoenix Baptist Church in Arizona for more than 15 years, though he has never been baptized in that church. Now see, that's exactly the problem. Baptism is kind of a big thing in the Baptist Church. (That's how they got the name.) No baptism, not Baptist.

Anyway, details aside, this is one very clear indication of how McCain has changed. Now, he's just another hungry politician, happy to pander if it helps him win. Which eliminates the very reason people were excited about him in 2000 -- his honesty.


Founding Member of the Keating Five

Back in the old days, defendants in famous trials got numbers -- the Chicago Eight, the Gang of Four, the Dave Clark Five, the Daytona 500. McCain was one of the "Keating Five," congressmen investigated on ethics charges for strenuously helping convicted racketeer Charles Keating after he gave them large campaign contributions and vacation trips.
Charles Keating was convicted of racketeering and fraud in both state and federal court after his Lincoln Savings & Loan collapsed, costing the taxpayers $3.4 billion. His convictions were overturned on technicalities; for example, the federal conviction was overturned because jurors had heard about his state conviction, and his state charges because Judge Lance Ito (yes, that judge) screwed up jury instructions. Neither court cleared him, and he faces new trials in both courts.)

Though he was not convicted of anything, McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating's airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating's luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain's wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it a "sweetheart deal."


Mafia ties:
In 1995, McCain sent birthday regards, and regrets for not attending, to Joseph "Joe Bananas" Bonano, the head of the New York Bonano crime family, who had retired to Arizona. Another politician to send regrets was Governor Fife Symington, who has since been kicked out of office and convicted of 7 felonies relating to fraud and extortion.

Family Problems
McCain has a reputation as a politician who has difficulty keeping his pants zipped, according to Republican sources. He acknowledges that his adultery broke up his first marriage. His second wife Cindy, the daughter of a wealthy Budweiser beer distributor, was addicted to prescription narcotics and even stole hard drugs from a medical charity that she ran. McCain acknowledges that she didn't want him to run, and only agreed once he promised that she doesn't have to go to New Hampshire or Iowa.

AngelaTC wrote:

Uh, McCain isn't the only Vietnam era vet running. Ron Paul was drafted and served as a flight surgeon in the Air Force.

Did you accidently forget this fellow, Angela?

Excerpt from Gen. Chuck Yeager endorsement:

I have known Congressman Duncan Hunter for over 35 years. Duncan served his country in the Army and is a Vietnam vet. In Vietnam, he served in one of the most dangerous outfits - the 173rd Airborne Brigade and the 75th Army Rangers.

http://www.gohunter08.com/

There were a couple of incidents Saturday during C-Spans televising of a town hall meeting with John Mccain that goes a long way in understanding his character or lack thereof.A lady in the crowd was trying to ask MCCain a question and he was totally ignoring her and talking to others.Then as she kept trying to ask him something,he said (paraphrasing)well are you going to ask me a question or not?She then begin talking and he turned his back and walked away ,saying "I don't have the time" and walked out of the room.Another lady said to him that her son was at West Point and that they liked Mccain and Mccain turned to her with a grin and said "paraphrasing) "I like Army over Navy". Mccain is a graduate of the Naval Academy and it took something big for him to say thatabout his Alma Mater. Like maybe a couple of votes.Speaks volumes about his character and loyalty to an institution that he attended doesn't it?Maybe these examples show why it is so easy for him to abandon the citizens of America and take up the cause of illegal citizens of other nations that he tried so hard to reward with visas and eventual citizenship.

Originally Posted by ChromeDome

There were a couple of incidents Saturday during C-Spans televising of a town hall meeting with John Mccain that goes a long way in understanding his character or lack thereof.A lady in the crowd was trying to ask MCCain a question and he was totally ignoring her and talking to others.Then as she kept trying to ask him something,he said (paraphrasing)well are you going to ask me a question or not?She then begin talking and he turned his back and walked away ,saying "I don't have the time" and walked out of the room.Another lady said to him that her son was at West Point and that they liked Mccain and Mccain turned to her with a grin and said "paraphrasing) "I like Army over Navy". Mccain is a graduate of the Naval Academy and it took something big for him to say thatabout his Alma Mater. Like maybe a couple of votes.Speaks volumes about his character and loyalty to an institution that he attended doesn't it?Maybe these examples show why it is so easy for him to abandon the citizens of America and take up the cause of illegal citizens of other nations that he tried so hard to reward with visas and eventual citizenship.

ChromeDome....I saw that! He was SOOOOO rude! I also saw him snarl at a repoeter who tried to ask him about his Romney ad...and he just screamed at him and said: "I'm NOT going to answer that question"!

He is just an arrogant, mean-spirited old geezer! I heard that he has no friends and his associates in the Senate can't stand him. One newpaper referred to him as "The Angry Old Man"...and that's exactly what he is!

Assessments of McCain's character tend to be way too generous, IMO.

Senator Goes Missing: www.greasyonline.com/modules.php?name=N ... int&sid=57

Why I won't vote for John McCain: www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14821

For the life of me, I cannot understand where all this support is coming from. I did hear that Independents like him. I know he is a military hero, well so is Duncan Hunter. McCain calls waterboarding torture, look at his tax policy and immigration, he also supports expanded embryonic stem cell research.
He's got a long voting record, which means lots of history to go after him on. After lastnight, I don't even think he's a nice person, and he's ancient!
http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/John_McCain.htm

I don't think he'll hold up too well beyond NH. He certainly won't win SC, and unless Romney drops out soon(unlikely), he probably won't win MI, either. FL is out for him if Guiliani stays in, although who knows about NV.

McCain is too crazy to be President. He's a loose cannon with a volatile temper. Both McCain and Huckabee are petty and mean-spirited, and in no way should represent the Republican party in a general election. I think at this point, Mitt Romney is the only hope for derailing them. I think he could actually survive a loss in NH and still go on to best the two of them, despite what the pundits would like us to think. I think it's possible McCain could lose some of the independent voters he's counting on to Obama. If that occurred, Romney might be able to pull off a win there.

Agree with you.
I just saw Tancredo on Neil Cavuto. He said he would write in Neil's name before he would support McCain. He reiterated the importance of stopping illegal immigration or the downfall of our country - it's that important. So I'll be pulling for Romney to hang in there and keep attacking them on the issues. Their only rebuttal is name-calling, childishness. I hope McCain continues to lose his cool and show us what a loose cannon he is.

Originally Posted by Martha

Agree with you.
I just saw Tancredo on Neil Cavuto. He said he would write in Neil's name before he would support McCain. He reiterated the importance of stopping illegal immigration or the downfall of our country - it's that important. So I'll be pulling for Romney to hang in there and keep attacking them on the issues. Their only rebuttal is name-calling, childishness. I hope McCain continues to lose his cool and show us what a loose cannon he is.

I saw this too!!! And, YEP, Tancredo definitely said that!!!!

I don't know about the rest of you but I not only listen to what the candidates say but I have also been watching their body language. My impression of McCain the other day was of an old man, tired, running down and grouchy. At one time I respected him, but now he represents the arrogance of the old government, you know the; how dare you question me I know best attitude.

In all due respect as a past military wife (my brother-inlaw was a POW for nine years) I think all of his service to this country has taken it's toll and it is now time for John McCain to retire.