Thread: MEChA—the Mexican Nazi Movement

This issue just gets deeper and deeper, doesn't it?

STINKS ON ICE!

yes it does, but everyone wants to label it as another "conspiracy" and disregards it.

In my searches I found a bunch of strange facts:

1) Center of immigration studies states that our government has been promissing citizenship to over 4 million Mexicans per year - in addition to those who are selected legaly. Many of then have been told that all they have to do once they get to America is "work hard" (sound familiar?)
I wonder if this is the same source of: "this land belongs to us"?

2) I read a comment on this site stating that a MEChA top member claimed that "reconquesta" is a rumor started by an American based hate group.

3) Halliburton (VP Dick Chenney's corp.) was caught selling 5 Neutron pulse generators (yes, Nuclear fusion devices) to Lybia and was slapped on the wrist. I do not know if Libya received the devices.
- But I do know that just a few years ago Libya kidnapped, torched and killed a top CIA agent.

4) Halliburton is "providing" over $18 (mil. or bil.) per year in support services to our troupes in Iraq and Afghanistan.
-since when does the US military hire a private contractor to feed them and wash their clothes?

5) Osama bin Laden seems to be not only innocent, but also smarter than Bush. A few of his statements:
"Terrifying an innocent person and terrorizing him is objectionable and unjust, also unjustly terrorizing people is not right."

"The leaders in America and in other countries as well have fallen victim to Jewish Zionist blackmail"

"The American government is leading the country towards hell. ...
I urge Americans to find a serious administration that acts in their interest and does not attack people and violate their honor and pilfer their wealth. ..."

"Let not the West be taken in by those who say that Muslims choose nothing but slaughtering"

"the European and the American people and some of the Arabs are under the influence of Jewish media. .."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... rview.html

It gets better; in May of 2006 Bush said: "Bin laden is no longer a threat, we are not pursuing him"

All of the above are facts, I have a few of my own theories about this, but I do not care for encouraging false rumors.

I posted a while back, that all the communists/socialists/and terrorists have to do is sit back and wait while we self-destruct. This is true, whether or not any of the above are true. Just look at what our lawbreakers have just done. ARRGGGHHH!

If you want to read more on this see:
"The Order of Skull and Bones"
"Everything You Ever Wanted to Know, But Were Afraid to Ask"

http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/ ... sintro.htm

I doubted several things posted there, but after some more searching they seem valid.

They have a list of members posted, also see the interviews with Kerry and Bush:
Kerry says he knows Bush, Bush says he does not know Kerry?
(Bonesman code: "something something...and deny everything")

The few unverified items posted there are identified "some people believe" etc.

They do NOT have specific answers to this issue, but the history of it is interesting and gives you a little more insight. - Which does not make it any more comforting

Swtncgram,

OK, movie thoughts! Yes, this thought popped into my mind last night. Was thinking about our situation in this country, and the movie, "Red Dawn", about the invasion of communists came to mind.

you are not alone, look at this post I just found:
http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-149338-mec ... ent#149338

Mexican Manifesto or Communist Manifesto -- our government doesn't care.

these militant groups are more threatening to the American people than Al Quaeda and they are embraced and wrapped in the American flag by our government

curiouspat go to my post Is America succumbing to pre Russian revolution

these militant groups are more threatening to the American people than Al Quaeda

And remember they where never a threat to us before:

-The Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11 and was not a declared enemy of the U.S. until Bush attacked them and took the side of the Northern Alliance. Bush claims that he attacked the Taliban because they refused to deliver Osama bin Laden to U.S. custody.

-Regardless of bin Laden's responsibility for 9/11, the Taliban could not turn over bin Laden, and the Bush regime knew that. Bush made a demand that could not be met in order to have the excuse to attack the Taliban.

-The Bush regime blamed bin Laden for 9/11, although the evidence is sketchy and inconclusive. Take a moment to consider the chances of bin Laden, who was fully occupied in his involvement in civil war in Afghanistan, being able to organize a successful attack on high-tech America from a primitive country half a world away. A man in a cave operating on a shoestring somehow defeats the myriad intelligence agencies of the U.S.

- If bin Laden was responsible for 9/11, he is the first terrorist in history to not brag about his 'sucess'.

-Americans were told that bin Laden was the target of the invasion of Afghanistan. In retrospect, we know that it was just another lie. The target was Iraq (and Iran and Syria). Bin Laden was just an excuse.

- Iraq has nothing whatsoever to do with bin Laden or 9/11. Yet, war in Iraq has completely absorbed the Bush regime. The regime sticks with its war despite its sinking polls, which even Karl Rove attributes to the fruitless war. (obviously not for some)

-The war in Iraq has multiplied terrorism, not reduced it. The war has destroyed America's reputation. The war has served as an excuse for concentrating unconstitutional powers in the executive for removing the institutional protections against a police state. The war has already cost 20,000 American casualties (dead and wounded) and hundreds of billions of dollars, which have had to be borrowed from foreigners, and is projected to have a total cost in excess of one trillion dollars.

- There was no Iraqi connection to al-Qaeda, a sworn enemy of the secular Hussein regime

-The most recent excuse - "building democracy" - is also a lie. It is perfectly clear that what the Bush regime has done is to bring the three Iraqi factions to the brink of civil war, while constructing a massive U.S. fortification in the guise of an embassy and permanent military bases.

- The Bush regime has destroyed Iraq without being able to defeat the resistance. Its greater casualties, however, are the American people, voiceless with no political representation, defenseless in the face of police-state depredations such as illegal warrant less surveillance, the possibility of property seizures, and indefinite detention without charges.

- The Bush regime's war on terror has defeated truth and the constitutional protections of liberty in the United States. No conceivable number of Muslim terrorists could inflict comparable damage on America.

- After all of that, in May 2006 Bush said "bin Laden is no longer a threat"

Bin Laden says that Bush is the real terrorist and I am beginning to agree with him.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 07,00.html


http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=9019

Originally Posted by skid

these militant groups are more threatening to the American people than Al Quaeda

And remember they where never a threat to us before:

-The Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11 and was not a declared enemy of the U.S. until Bush attacked them and took the side of the Northern Alliance. Bush claims that he attacked the Taliban because they refused to deliver Osama bin Laden to U.S. custody.

-Regardless of bin Laden's responsibility for 9/11, the Taliban could not turn over bin Laden, and the Bush regime knew that. Bush made a demand that could not be met in order to have the excuse to attack the Taliban.

-The Bush regime blamed bin Laden for 9/11, although the evidence is sketchy and inconclusive. Take a moment to consider the chances of bin Laden, who was fully occupied in his involvement in civil war in Afghanistan, being able to organize a successful attack on high-tech America from a primitive country half a world away. A man in a cave operating on a shoestring somehow defeats the myriad intelligence agencies of the U.S.

- If bin Laden was responsible for 9/11, he is the first terrorist in history to not brag about his 'sucess'.

-Americans were told that bin Laden was the target of the invasion of Afghanistan. In retrospect, we know that it was just another lie. The target was Iraq (and Iran and Syria). Bin Laden was just an excuse.

- Iraq has nothing whatsoever to do with bin Laden or 9/11. Yet, war in Iraq has completely absorbed the Bush regime. The regime sticks with its war despite its sinking polls, which even Karl Rove attributes to the fruitless war. (obviously not for some)

-The war in Iraq has multiplied terrorism, not reduced it. The war has destroyed America's reputation. The war has served as an excuse for concentrating unconstitutional powers in the executive for removing the institutional protections against a police state. The war has already cost 20,000 American casualties (dead and wounded) and hundreds of billions of dollars, which have had to be borrowed from foreigners, and is projected to have a total cost in excess of one trillion dollars.

- There was no Iraqi connection to al-Qaeda, a sworn enemy of the secular Hussein regime

-The most recent excuse - "building democracy" - is also a lie. It is perfectly clear that what the Bush regime has done is to bring the three Iraqi factions to the brink of civil war, while constructing a massive U.S. fortification in the guise of an embassy and permanent military bases.

- The Bush regime has destroyed Iraq without being able to defeat the resistance. Its greater casualties, however, are the American people, voiceless with no political representation, defenseless in the face of police-state depredations such as illegal warrant less surveillance, the possibility of property seizures, and indefinite detention without charges.

- The Bush regime's war on terror has defeated truth and the constitutional protections of liberty in the United States. No conceivable number of Muslim terrorists could inflict comparable damage on America.

- After all of that, in May 2006 Bush said "bin Laden is no longer a threat"

Bin Laden says that Bush is the real terrorist and I am beginning to agree with him.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 07,00.html


http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=9019

I see 9/11 differently that I use to, but I always thought that Saddam Hussein had something to do with it, not because of what was reported but by the poem that was written

Strangely enough, the clearest evidence is in the Iraqi media – the very media we should have been monitoring. The Iraqi media, controlled by the Saddam regime, called for jihad against the United States on Jan. 22, 2001. Among the usual calls for revenge against the U.S., one of Saddam Hussein's favorite columnists predicted on July 21, 2001, that Osama bin Laden would destroy the White House and Pentagon, and "strike America on the arm that is already hurting."

He finished off with a prediction that bin Laden's attack would force tears whenever someone heard Frank Sinatra sing. Frank Sinatra, of course, sung "New York, New York." But by far the most chilling statement was, "the wings of a dove and bullet are but the same in the heart of a believer." Less than two weeks after the article was published, Saddam Hussein congratulated the columnist on his fine work.

Between Aug. 19 and 21, Saddam Hussein hosted a forum for terrorists in Baghdad featuring not only bin Laden's representatives, but those of Islamic Jihad, Hamas and many others. From this time until after Sept. 11, Saddam Hussein and members of his inner circle went to safehouses with the military on high alert. Could Saddam have known that something would happen on Sept. 11, the fifth anniversary of the conviction of Ramzi Yousef, leader of the first World Trade Center attack (and suspected Iraqi intelligence agent)?

We should not shy away from drawing a Saddam /9-11 connection. Even the Saddam regime itself has not. On Dec. 3, Sheikh Ali Bin Shallal read a poem in the presence of the dictator,

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=34621

The poem read:

“We love you as much as a bird loves its nest when it rains.
Your gold is pure, the gold of others is copper whose engravings are false.

But fatigue and injustice are over. They remain engraved letters.
You triumphed over injustice; you will not be blamed should you beat them.

You are fastened with a bullet-belt for the one fooled by his troops.
You are the guard, you are the guard, Saddam, and we are the watchful eyes.

Just order us to proceed and repel the attacks,
just order us to proceed and repel the attacks [line chanted repeatedly by the audience].

From inside America, how five planes flew.
Such a mishap never happened in the past!
And nothing similar will happen.
Six thousand infidels died.
Bin Ladin did not do it; the luck of the president [Saddam] did it.”

(Shaykh Ali Bin Shallal, Head of the Sharji Tribes from Southern Iraq, as translated by FBIS NES, Dec, 3, 2001)


it's also been reported that Tim McVeigh was a 'useful idiot'

I'm of the opinion if terrorists are a threat to the American people, and they are, then the borders should have been secure.