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11-18-2007, 11:21 PM #21
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This isn't new. I read an article in La Voz a couple of years ago and they were talking about a parallel government... already formed with ministers of this and that and everything. They talked about cities in the southwest but I couldn't recognize them because they had renamed all of them. This is a functioning government.... right along side of our own. The article is probably over in their archives. But check out the location they say they're in -- Aztlan. They're actually in LA.
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11-18-2007, 11:28 PM #22
This is a BIG mistake on their part!
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11-19-2007, 12:09 AM #23This assembly will be carried out in the first months of 2008, tentatively in Washington.
Curious about which federal building or facility they think they are going to hold their so-called "assembly" in.
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11-19-2007, 01:04 AM #24
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Um, we WON the revolutionary war with Britain ... we don't do Parliaments here ...
I consider this to be an official declaration of war ... they are telling us they are taking over!
I'm getting on the phone with my reps tomorrow morning and tell them to get on the frigging ball already, or the potential for civil war on US soil will become a reality rather than potential.Proud wife of an undocumented ICE agent.
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11-19-2007, 01:33 PM #25
I remember a while back reading about a meeting of their Mexican Congresso in San Diego and was shocked, I even wrote to congress and asked them since when were Mexicans allowed to have their own congress in the United States of America.
We need to get this sent to as many members of congress as we can! Especially Sessions and Vitter, they will get the word out, we should also send this to Chertoff to let him know Americans are not stupid we are aware of this and want to know just what he is doing about it, Add the Attorney General to the list, we will see if this new guy gives a damn about the laws of this country.
I also will send to Dobbs, Beck etc.
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11-19-2007, 01:50 PM #26
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Maybe we should get a few thousand Americans, Alipacers and other groups to take a little trip to Mexico City and march on their Congresso or Parliament! It's about time we gave them a taste of their own medicine! It definitely would get great publicity and in the process...we can wake up every sleeping American.
It's time to tell Mexico to shove it! Our feckless leaders will not do it...it's up to us!!!
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11-19-2007, 01:52 PM #27Originally Posted by AmericanMePlease support ALIPAC's fight to save American Jobs & Lives from illegal immigration by joining our free Activists E-Mail Alerts (CLICK HERE)
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11-19-2007, 02:13 PM #28
Hey, guys, this is great for us! Think about it. It's like the May illegal immigrants march, where they waved their foreign flags. THAT DAY ALONE won us so many (outraged) fence-sitters. We are at 80% already!
So with more news exposure we have on this new parliament on US SOIL, we will gain the other 20%!! This is great! This is our chance to get the REST OF AMERICA!!
So think of it that way. It's not the glass half empty. It's the glass half full! It's gonna backfire on Mexico just like the marches did! YIPPEEE!!
So lets leave them alone and let's spread the news!PRESS 1 FOR ENGLISH. PRESS 2 FOR DEPORTATION.
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11-19-2007, 02:48 PM #29
If anyone can find corroboration of this article, please post some sources. We need to collect as much information as possible. I'll look around this evening when I'm done working. The more sources we can send to Dobbs, et al, the better.
You only see this kind of brazenness with the profoundly stupid. Showing one's hand so overtly IS a big mistake, although I'm always pleased to see information like this. There's no better ammunition for our side.
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11-19-2007, 03:27 PM #30
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http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stor ... c2817.html
By DAVID OLSON
The Press-Enterprise
Several Inland immigration-rights advocates are heading to Mexico City to participate in a first-ever summit Friday and Saturday between U.S.-based activists of Mexican ancestry and members of the Mexican Congress.
The Mexican Congress last month called for the "parliament," which will include up to 500 delegates, to discuss immigration-related issues.
"It is important they hear what is really going on" in the U.S. among people of Mexican origin, said delegate Gilberto Esquivel, president of Hispanos Unidos, a Riverside-based advocacy and assistance group. "We're the ones living through this situation. They need to get off their duffs and do something."
Participants will discuss proposals for the Mexican Congress to fund programs to help immigrants in the United States and defend their rights, and to pay for an organization that would lobby the U.S. government on immigration policy. The Mexican government has previously lobbied in the United States, as have other countries.
Delegates will also discuss ways that people on both sides of the border can work together on immigration-related issues.
Delegate Armando Navarro, coordinator of the Riverside-based National Alliance for Human Rights, said he would also urge the Mexican government to institute wage increases, job-creation programs and other policies to reduce the extreme poverty that causes many Mexicans to leave for the U.S.
Delegate John Rodriguez said the parliament is necessary because of anti-immigrant attitudes in the United States that have affected even U.S. citizens like him. For example, Rodriguez said that when he voted in his Moreno Valley precinct last year, he was asked to show identification -- but white voters were not.
People of Mexican ancestry make up 45 percent of San Bernardino County's population, and 41 percent of Riverside County's, according to the U.S. Census.
It is unclear how many members of Mexico's Congress will attend the meetings or how much influence the parliament's decisions will have on the Congress. A Mexican congressional spokesman did not return phone calls for comment.
Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies, which seeks greater limits on immigration, said the meeting was another example of the Mexican government interfering in internal U.S. politics.
"The problem is we have permitted Mexico to view our immigration policy as a bi-national matter," Krikorian said. "The Mexican government now views itself as having a role in U.S. policymaking."
Yet Navarro said foreign countries regularly lobby within the United States, and the U.S. regularly tries to influence other countries' policies.
Reach David Olson at 951-368-9462 or dolson@PE.com
Bi-national parliament
Inland immigration-rights activists are traveling to Mexico City to meet with members of the Mexican Congress on Friday and Saturday to discuss immigration-related issues. Among the themes:
Developing programs to help Mexican immigrants living in the United States.
Creating a permanent immigration-policy lobbying effort in the United States funded by the Mexican Congress.
Strengthening dialogue between the Mexican Congress and U.S.-based immigration activists, and identifying ways to work together.
Coming up with ways to defend the rights of Mexican immigrants.
SOURCE: HOUSE OF DEPUTIES, MEXICAN CONGRESS
Mexican Immigrants to Defend Rights in US
Mexico, Nov 7 (Prensa Latina) Leaders of Mexican immigrants in the United States said on Tuesday that they will meet in this capital to coordinate their strategy to defend the rights of that community in the neighboring country, where the government does not recognize them.
The First Parliament of Mexican Migrant Leaders will be held at the House of Deputies on November 16-17 and will be attended by representatives of more than 150 organizations of immigrants who live in the United States.
They will meet in commissions to debate such issues as migration and defense of acquired rights, lobbying in US legislative bodies to counter initiatives against immigrants, and programs on consular protection and remittances.
The delegates will also talk about the migrants who die on the border while trying to enter US territory, the wall the US government is building to prevent Mexican immigration, and the deportations and raids carried out by US border patrols.
They will also fight the widespread notion promoted by the United States that immigrants are criminals, terrorists or drug traffickers.
The meeting will be backed by Congress and the opening session will be attended by the presidents of the Senate and the House of Deputies, official sources said.
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