Thread: Mj & Jake Attacked

Hi William,

This is "Mozart". I met you at the Conference in Grays Lake last month

I got to the protest about 5 minutes after the attack. At that point, there were cops everywhere. I won't go into many details right now but there was something fishy about the police that day

Knowing we were going to be there in advance, there was no cops in sight until they were called in by people who saw the attack

The top cop at the scene that day, after arriving, went straight to the head "goon" & discussed things with him. How did the top cop know who the "boss" of the goons was?

Why were the cops uninterested in hearing from us & uninterested in arresting the attackers, even while they were pointed out?

Chicago is a sanctuary city & those cops were obvioulsy given their orders in advance

Anyway, all of us who do physical protests must be aware that these miscreants are now getting more violent & will stoop to attacking women

We must be smarter in our approach. I want to see our group, at least those who show up early, meet at a different spot, then go into the goon nests as a group

And I'll tell you this. If I see a woman attacked all bets are off. These cowards are going down. We can no longer allow these skinny little "anarchist" dorks & fake indians to run their "hit & run" attacls

If one of these miscreants beat on a woman, they need to be stomped. A shattered nose & facial bones might make them see the light

I don't advocate violence & I know the media uses any self defense against us, but enough is enough

Michelle is a sweeheart who didn't deserve that

Ifightback,

I have spoken with Jake and the biggest problem that happened was that other activists that had cameras did not activate them and tried to physically get to their aid.

While this appears to be the right plan on the surface, it was a break down in organization.

Any person like Jake that is filming close to the enemy lines needs another camera trained on them. It was only by luck that a young reporter took pictures that when shown to the police, resulted in arrests.

Jake and MJ know the risks as do we all. While we do not want any of our people injured, if we had the video images of the attacks on Jake and MJ right now we would be beating the crap out of the entire pro illegal alien movement across America tonight!

It would be better for our people to stand there and take the punches than to do anything to risk the great progress of our movement.

This fight cannot be won by force and while I would start defending myself and others around me as well, I would only do so once it was absolutely apparent who the aggressors were.

I think Jake showed great restraint because he knows these rules of engagement. He and MJ are both completely dedicated to our cause and while his instincts were probably telling him to start ripping off arms, he contained those instincts. Jake is a really nice guy which is good because he is also a very big guy.

You find folks going into Chicago and LA cannot afford any security lapses.

You need multiple cameras, plans, and backups. Anyone with a short fuse or hot temper that can't take a slap in the face and hold their composure does not need to be on the front lines.

When these illegal alien supporters attack someone that is a leader or supporter of the many non racist organizations in our movement, and they conduct themselves appropriately and defensively, and it is caught on film from start to finish, the illegals and their supporters will face a backlash unlike anything they have ever seen before on the political front.

While I have no desire to be harmed myself, I would gladly put my life on the line and take one hell of a beating for this cause if need be.

None of us should back down to violence and should not tolerate threats against our Civil liberties to hold meetings and speak without fear of violence.

We just have to make sure we are in the right on all things, that we are not the aggressors, that we are within the law, and it is caught on film.

If you are attacked and you know our side is filming, the best thing you could to would be to hold your flag as high as you can as long as you can and wait for help to arrive.

W

You KNOW these people are totally desperate when they being to actually doing what they know is wrong. They are so frustrated with their inability to sway people to their side and their opinion, they have to resort to hurting someone, hoping that they can intimidate people into silence in the very least.

I hope that the real dirt of this situation makes the light of day for all to see, pictures and maybe even evidence there was some corruption within the city or police to have been lacking in presence, allowing it to happen.

Another point that came to mind. I can say that as long as I remember, the protests that all of us have been a part of across this country, is unprecedented in itself. Not so much our numbers at one rally, but all over, and for such a sustained amount of time. This is what is frustrating the anarchists and OBL crowds, they have attempted to silence us, but it has not worked, now they want to cause bodily harm because they have nothing else left, they are LOSING!!!!!!

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This just goes to show how much the Socialist and Marxist factions in this country are fueling all of this misguided behavior in order to further their own agendas! I noticed in one of the pictures that a protestor was holding a placard extolling the virtues of Che Guevarra... a noted Communist Revolutionary.

What do these idiots think they are doing? Are they absolutely stupid or are they just too uneducated to have learned anything from history? There are no freedoms in either a Socialist or Communist government. Just ask any Cuban who has come to this country legally! I know, I know... many have come into the country illegally, too, in order to escape the totalitarian Socialist government of Fidel Castro. But the Illegal Migrants of Mexico are not escaping a Communist country, at least yet. If Socialist and Communist governments are so wonderful, why do so many people risk their lives to escape from those countries? Why did Russia finally come to its senses and topple the former Communist regime? The Socialist and Communist minions in the pictures above that are supposedly for the human rights of Illegal Migrants claim to support all human rights, but in reality, the politburos of their mentor parties are the most oppressive violators of human rights on the planet. And they claim to be standing up for the rights of the Illegals?

As far as I am concerned, anyone who espouses either the Socialist or Marxist (Communist) parties in a march or in a protest, like the Illegal Migrants are doing, deserves to be deported immediately. I've said it before and I'll say it again: there's an entirely different and clandestine agenda behind the supporters of Illegal Immigration. America had better wake up, if it's not too late already.



America had better wake up to the fact that

Originally Posted by MarkM

This just goes to show how much the Socialist and Marxist factions in this country are fueling all of this misguided behavior in order to further their own agendas! I noticed in one of the pictures that a protestor was holding a placard extolling the virtues of Che Guevarra... a noted Communist Revolutionary.

What do these idiots think they are doing? Are they absolutely stupid or are they just too uneducated to have learned anything from history? There are no freedoms in either a Socialist or Communist government. Just ask any Cuban who has come to this country legally! I know, I know... many have come into the country illegally, too, in order to escape the totalitarian Socialist government of Fidel Castro. But the Illegal Migrants of Mexico are not escaping a Communist country, at least yet. If Socialist and Communist governments are so wonderful, why do so many people risk their lives to escape from those countries? Why did Russia finally come to its senses and topple the former Communist regime? The Socialist and Communist minions in the pictures above that are supposedly for the human rights of Illegal Migrants claim to support all human rights, but in reality, the politburos of their mentor parties are the most oppressive violators of human rights on the planet. And they claim to be standing up for the rights of the Illegals?

As far as I am concerned, anyone who espouses either the Socialist or Marxist (Communist) parties in a march or in a protest, like the Illegal Migrants are doing, deserves to be deported immediately. I've said it before and I'll say it again: there's an entirely different and clandestine agenda behind the supporters of Illegal Immigration. America had better wake up, if it's not too late already.



America had better wake up to the fact that

yea they love Chavez and Guevarra to socialist pigs that want total control over every thing and one in there nations!!! I can't understand our children and college students that support him and wear shirts with Che's face on it and supporting his views? Has todays youth been that badly brainwashed to think that communism/socialism is the answer to Americas future? WTF is going on here??? Is this a bad dream? We spent nearly 50+ years fighting off communism and then finally we are going to welcome it in? Also why is Cuba still Cuba? We should have gotten ride of that regime by now IMHO!!!!!

BorderLegionaire is absolutely correct. And in regard to that placard of Che Guevarra in the picture above -- it is the 6th picture from the top -- the sign reads: "The Workers Struggle Has No Borders." That's just what the Socialists and the Marxists want -- open borders. I believe it was Karl Marx who once stated that when nations had open borders, they would be able to completely take over.

MarkM, the goal is a one world government, in a one world system where everyone is falling in line with the agenda of that government and for those who will not, they will likely "disappear".

Without giving into this and being marked, you will not work, eat or have a place to lay your head, you will likely be hunted for the remainder of your days.

These kinds want totalitarian control of the masses, even control of their thinking.

For those of us right now, we better speak up fast about illegal immigration and also about OUR rights not being protected, or in very little time, we will neither have the chance, nor the freedom to do so.

Americans desperately need to wake up from this over-consumption coma they are in, their precious trinkets and belongings will soon go away and they won't even have their freedom to cling to.

W,
Your comments were absolutely on the mark and at least for now we have to be willing to be smacked around a little to get the country to see what we are really dealing with. At least 20 people heard firsthand the hateful opinion many of these illegals have regarding America and Americans as our rally in Graham, N.C. was ending Saturday. That was a real shocker for the peaceful protesters who witnessed first-hand the animosity that exists and is growing in the illegal immigrant community. It's just a matter of time before violence erupts and is captured on film for all the country to see. We can only hope that we don't get pre-empted by something bigger like Paris or Nicole falling off the wagon yet again.....
or God forbid a "terrorist attack" on American soil.

Funny how THEY can hit women and use violence when it favors THEM,but when a peacefully spoken word that opposes their beliefs is uttered they scream like little girls-no offense to little girls-and cry oppression,racism or whatever the new word the puppetmaster has taught them.
Just think -what are they teaching their children?The infection spreads..



Head 'em up,move 'em out Rawhide!