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    SO THIS IS OUR NEW CONSTITUTION!

    http://americas-union.org

    I WILL DIE BEFORE I WILL EVER GIVE UP OUR U.S. CONSTITUTION!
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    Ron Paul is the only canidate running for President that was totally against the NAU.
    I read someone's post, can't find it now, that said Ron Paul is still running !
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    Ron Paul is still running, and he's staying in right up to the convention. If you read the stuff on his website, it tells how there's a possibility he could still win the nomination. Don't know if that is plausible, but who knows. I plan to write him in anyway.
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    Ron Paul is still running, and he's staying in right up to the convention. If you read the stuff on his website, it tells how there's a possibility he could still win the nomination.
    Thanks for the update. I, too, will contact his office.
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    The NAU is just a method of ELIMINATING obstacles to the greedy pursuit of ever MORE wealth and power. If, God FORBID, the NAU EVER materializes, the avaricious big business elites will have only ONE government to deal with instead of THREE! That will undoubtedly facilitate their greedy grab for riches and influence!

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    NAFTA is the first building block toward the NAU. Stopping NAFTA is a priority !
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    Quote Originally Posted by butterbean
    Scary site!!

    I noticed when I went to a couple of pages it said:

    "This section is currently being updated for July 2008. We apologise for any inconvenience."

    What happens in July 2008?
    All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. -Edmund Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by patbrunz
    Quote Originally Posted by butterbean
    Scary site!!

    <snip>

    What happens in July 2008?
    The global masters get Spell Checker maybe?
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    2. Universal Principles
    Article 15- Crime and Justice
    15.1 Crime
    Crime is defined as an act or the commission of an act that is either (a) forbidden by law or (b) the omission of a duty that is commanded by law enacted and in force by the instruments of this constitution.

    The definition of a crime, its category in terms of seriousness and associated punishments shall be defined as a criminal code.

    15.2 The existence of crime
    That laws are made means there will always people and institutions that breach them. The degree to which laws are breached is a balance between the general fair purpose and intention of the law and is enforcement.

    Strong and fair laws not enforced will result in higher crime. Unjust and unfair laws will result in high crime even if tough enforcement measures are in place.

    A goal of this constitution and of all laws created as a result of it shall be to ensure the lowest possible rate of crime through a balance of fair law and fair enforcement.

    15.3 Justice and crime
    When a crime is committed, an offence has occurred. Where a crime involves a serious offence, the impact may include the trauma of family, friends and a whole community.

    For the functioning of society, fair justice must be done. For fair justice to be done, a wise balance must be established.

    15.4 Punishment and resolution
    Evil begets evil. Injustice breeds injustice. A system that creates concentrations of evil in the form of barbaric prisons and executes citizens against its will is an unjust society that will never find peace and resolution in responding to crime.

    For a system to be fair and just, for an offence to be resolved as wisely as possible, the entire nature of punishment versus the remorse and willingness of the offender to atone and reform needs to be considered.

    Damnation of a soul simply adds to the greater misery and evilness in the world. What is greater than any damnation is forgiveness and a choice of appropriate punishment through the choice of absolution or penitence by an offender.

    15.5 Absolution and penitence
    The sentencing of punishment for crimes committed shall always be based on the principle of the convicted offender having a choice between a punishment relating to a program of eventual absolution or a punishment program relating to a period of penitence.

    A choice of absolution shall always be associated with a convicted offenders public admission of guilt and remorse for the crime and willingness to atone. In response the punishment should be commensurate with the crime but with the opportunity of eventual absolution.

    In contrast, an absence of guilt, or genuine remorse shall always be associated with penitence and with longer periods of incarceration.

    15.6 Model of absolution and penitence
    The following model shall be used as the basis of framing appropriate sentencing of convicted offenders. All crimes shall be coded according to the seriousness of the crime and the seriousness and severity of sentences.

    Severity Absolution Penitence
    Capital Choose to be put to death
    Choose mental incapacitation
    Severe Choose mental modification and internal chip monitoring Choose life or permanent imprisonment
    Serious Choose behaviour modification, electronic monitoring and repayment Choose significant prison term (up to 15 yrs)
    Major Choose behaviour modification and repayment Choose prison term (up to 5 yrs)
    Minor Choose behaviour modification and repayment Choose community service
    Infringement Choose behaviour modification and repayment
    Choose juvenile detention


    15.7 Union register of criminal codes
    A Union register of uniform criminal codes shall be in force so that one law exists for all people in all parts of the Union.

    15.8 National criminal index
    All crimes and convicted criminals shall be listed on the Union criminal index matched to the Unique Person Index system. The index is for the purpose of security and disclosure of a person past history. The listing on the register of a person is not permanent, but determined according to the level conviction and whether the sentence was one of absolution or penitence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loservillelabor
    Quote Originally Posted by patbrunz
    Quote Originally Posted by butterbean
    Scary site!!

    <snip>

    What happens in July 2008?
    The global masters get Spell Checker maybe?

    Venezuela, Cuba? I find it VERY hard to believe this site is Legitimate.
    <div>MY eyes HAVE seen the GLORY... And that GLORY BELONGS to US... We the PEOPLE!</div>

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