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    Getting Jobbed: 15 Tribes With Unemployment Rates Over 80 Percent

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    8/29/13

    Indian Country Today Media Network continues to highlight the issues of jobs and economic development in Indian country in conjunction with the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom which was yesterday, August 28. In 2007, the U.S. Department of the Interior, Bureau of Indian Affairs released the 2005 American Indian Population and Labor Force Report. Based on this report, ICTMN has compiled a list of tribes that struggle with the highest rates of unemployment for tribal members that are available to work.

    Though this report is federally mandated to be released no less than biennially, no newer numbers have been reported although a report in 2013 is currently in the works.

    In order to provide an accurate overview and as not to skew percentages too broadly we listed tribes that list their tribal enrollments above 1,000 and have at least 500 unemployed. Additionally, since a large amount of Alaskan tribes have smaller numbers and thus percentages can change at a lower ratio and could be vastly different as of 2013, we focused on tribes in the lower 48 states.

    Sokaogon Chippewa Community

    93 percent unemployment

    Tribal enrollment 1,274

    Available for work 961

    Unemployed 894

    The Sokaogon Chippewa Community of Mole Lake, Wisconsin has the highest percentage of unemployed tribal members at 93 percent with 894 unemployed. Out of those that are employed, 79 percent are still living below national poverty standards. The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) lists Wisconsin as having an unemployment rate of 6.8 percent.

    Pechanga Band of Luiseno Indians

    91 percent unemployment

    Tribal enrollment 1,342

    Available for work 595

    Unemployed 544

    The Pechanga Band of Luiseno Indians reservation territory lies in Temecula, California. Of those that are employed, none live below poverty standards. With the opening of the Pechanga Resort and Casino in 2002, the tribe looks to continue its development of the tribal economy. The BLS lists California as having an 8.7 percent unemployment rate.

    Oglala Sioux Tribe of Pine Ridge

    89 percent unemployment

    Tribal enrollment 43,146

    Available for work 29,539

    Unemployed 26,408

    Perhaps most infamous for its levels of unemployment and poor living conditions for the majority of its tribal residents the Oglala Sioux of Pine Ridge also has the highest number of unemployed. Unlike South Dakota which has 3.9 percent unemployment, Pine Ridge has an approximate 85 percent higher rating than the state.

    Though well over 1,000 residents on the reservation are employed, 34 percent of those are still living below poverty standards.

    Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe

    88 percent unemployment

    Tribal enrollment 15,376

    Available for work 11,205

    Unemployed 9,893

    The Lakota Nation is comprised of more than 3 million acres of land in central South Dakota with approximately 70 percent living on the reservation. Approximately 1,300 residents are employed that live on the reservation, 100 percent are still living below poverty standards.

    The Apache Tribe of Oklahoma

    87 percent unemployment

    Tribal enrollment 1,860

    Available for work 1,702

    Unemployed 1,485

    The Apache Tribe of Oklahoma, also known as the Plains Apache is a federally recognized tribe located in Anadarko, Oklahoma. With 87 percent unemployment and about 1,700 tribal members available to work, only slightly over 200 are employed. Of that 200+, 100 are living below the standards of poverty. Oklahoma State’s unemployment sits at 5.3 percent.

    Standing Rock Sioux Tribe

    86 percent unemployment

    Tribal enrollment 6,461

    Available for work 3,565

    Unemployed 3,074

    The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe that straddles the border of North and South Dakota is the sixth largest reservation in land area in the United Sates as well as holding sixth place on our list. With tribal enrollment of 6,461 and more than 3,565 available to work, only 491 are employed. The 3,074 out of work equates to 86 percent unemployment. Of those employed more than 200 or 43 percent are living below poverty standards.

    Little Traverse Bay Band

    86 percent unemployment

    Tribal enrollment 4,073

    Available for work 1,657

    Unemployed 1,427

    The Little Traverse Bay Bands of Odawa Indians, which traditional homelands lay on the northwestern shores of Michigan States Lower Peninsula, are number seven on the list with 86 percent unemployment. Though 18 percent of those employed are living below the standards of poverty, it still overcomes a comparison to Michigan’s relatively “high” unemployment rate of 8.8 percent.

    Round Valley Indian Tribes

    86 percent unemployment

    Tribal enrollment 3,785

    Available for work 1,450

    Unemployed 1,241

    The Round Valley Indian Reservation which lies primarily in Mendocino County, California is number eight with 86 percent unemployment for its 1,450 members available for work. Only 209 are employed and more than half of that number or 54 percent are living in poverty. California’s unemployment currently sits at 8.7 percent.

    Shoshone Tribe of the Wind River Reservation

    86 percent unemployment

    Tribal enrollment 3,724

    Available for work 2,686

    Unemployed 2,248

    The Shoshone Tribe of the Wind River Reservation which shares reservation territory with the Northern Arapaho and whose reservation covers 2.2 million acres in Central Wyoming, hold the number nine spot with 84 percent unemployment for its more than 3,700 tribal members. Of the 2,686 available for work, 2,248 are unemployed. Of the 438 employed, 187 are living in poverty conditions. Wyoming’s unemployment rate is 4.6 percent.

    Rosebud Sioux Tribe

    83 percent unemployment

    Tribal enrollment 26,237

    Available for work 14,428

    Unemployed 11,909

    With 26,237 enrolled members and over 14,428 available for work, the Rosebud Sioux Tribe in South Dakota with 11,909 members without work and unemployment at 83 percent holds the number 2 spot in terms of number of tribal members without a job. It holds the number 10 spot in terms of unemployment percent. Of the 2,519 that are employed, 1,920 or 76 percent are still living in poverty.

    Walker River Paiute Tribe

    83 percent unemployment

    Tribal enrollment 2,979

    Available for work 850

    Unemployed 705

    The Walker River Paiute Reservation, located in Midwestern Nevada about 100 miles southeast of Reno, Nevada has an 83 percent unemployment rate for its nearly 3,000 members, with 850 available for work and only 145 employed. Nevada’s unemployment currently sits at a “high” of 9.5 percent.

    Winnebago Tribe

    82 percent unemployment

    Tribal enrollment 4,321

    Available for work 1,055

    Unemployed 870

    The Winnebago Indian Reservation, which lies in northeastern Nebraska and has the largest community in the Village of Winnebago has an unemployment rating of 82 percent since only 185 of the 1,055 available have work. Of those working, 172 or 93 percent are living in poverty. Nebraska’s unemployment rate in comparison is currently 4.2 percent.

    Puyallup Tribe

    82 percent unemployment

    Tribal enrollment 3,547

    Available for work 12,437* (includes non-enrolled workers)

    Unemployed 10,250

    Asa Coast Salish Tribe from western Washington State in today’s Tacoma, the Puyallup Tribe has an 82 percent unemployment rate for its 12,437 available to work, translating to 10,250 unemployed. Of the 2,187 working, 1,412 are living below poverty standards. Washington State has unemployment of 6.9 percent.

    Bad River Band

    81 percent unemployment

    Tribal enrollment 6,875

    Available for work 1,800

    Unemployed 1,465

    The Bad River Band of the Ojibwe / Chippewa is located on the south shore of Lake Superior in northern Wisconsin. At 81 percent unemployment, Bad River holds the number 14 spot with 335 employed out of the 1,800 available. Of those employed 273 or 81 percent are living below poverty standards. By comparison, Wisconsin State has unemployment of 6.8 percent.

    Shoshone-Bannock Tribes-Fort Hall

    81 percent unemployment

    Tribal enrollment 4,796

    Available for work 9,593* (includes non-enrolled workers)

    Unemployed 7,757

    The Fort Hall Indian Reservation of the Shoshone-Bannock is located in southeastern Idaho on the Snake River Plain. With more than 7,500 unemployed, the tribe holds the number 15 spot with 81 percent unemployment. Of those employed, 747 or 41 percent live below poverty. Idaho in comparison has an unemployment rate of 6.6 percent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    It's not my music, MW. It's Nebraska's and North Dakota's.

    These pipelines are not destroying the environment. And as to eminent domain and property rights, you wouldn't have electricity to power your computer without the electric company having taken someone's "property rights" to deliver it to you. If you have natural gas to heat your house or operate our cooking stove, you wouldn't have natural gas without the gas company having taken someone's "property rights" to deliver it to you. You wouldn't have gas in your car or oil in your engine without some private enterprise having taken someone's "property rights" to deliver it to you. You wouldn't have a store with lights and ac and heat to shop in or a place to work with all it needs to operate so it can hire you without private enterprises having taken someone's "property rights" to make them available to you. You wouldn't have water coming out of your sink or your sewage flushing cleanly down into a pipe running all the way to waste treatment facility which then dumps into the environment without these enterprises having taken someone's "property rights" to make them available to you.

    This is a developed country that has basic needs to sustain itself and one of those needs is energy development, getting products to refineries, processing and then to market the cheapest, safest way possible, and for oil and gas and a wide array of other products, pipelines are by far and away the best field primary distribution choice. The alternatives are tank cars by truck or rail which are far riskier methods and even these methods require eminent domain to build the roads and railways to transport the products.

    I'm pretty confident you've been dancing on the same music of oil and gas products in your personal and work life as everyone else.
    Don't play me for a fool, Judy. I understand the use of eminent domain for public use. What I don't understand is the taking of land for corporate profit,

    Profits for Oil, Gas & Coal Companies Operating in the U.S. and Canada



    May 2015
    $257 billion

    If this figure represented a country’s GDP, it would rank 41st in the world, about the same as Chile.

    Instead, $257 billion is the profit made in 2014 by public companies involved in extracting, transporting, refining, distributing and trading in fossil fuels in the United States and Canada. Despite these massive profits, the fossil fuel industry continues to receive tens of billions of dollars in subsidies every year at the expense of U.S. taxpayers.
    While these companies reap their benefits, communities across the country suffer the impacts of climate change, oil spills and water contamination from fracking, drilling and mining.

    This includes many foreign companies – like Shell and BP – that, although they do not earn the majority of their profits in North America, are major players in American and Canadian oil, gas and coal industries.

    The utility companies included for this analysis are natural gas utilities, as well as electric utilities and power producers that generate or purchase a major share of their electricity from oil, gas and coal. Similarly, only investment and trading firms that deal primarily with fossil fuel companies have been counted.However, profits from major Chinese companies, including PetroChina and China National Petroleum Corporation, were not included despite their significant interests in Canadian tar sands because to date their North American activities make up a tiny share of their total profits.




    Source: Bloomberg
    Because private companies are not required to disclose their financial information, a significant share of fossil fuel industry profits cannot be counted. Notably, the profits of Koch Industries, the second largest privately held company in the United States and a major refiner and trader of fossil fuels, are not included, though Forbes estimates the company’s 2013 annual revenue at $115 billion.

    Many of these companies contribute millions of dollars in campaign finance to representatives and senators in the U.S. Congress, as well as to delegates and senators in State houses in key fossil fuel states around the country. This ensures that U.S. politicians represent the fossil fuel industry’s interests above those of the people that elected them. Fossil fuel industry lobbying expenditure andcontributions to the U.S. Congress amounted to over $326 million in the 113th Congress (2013-14).

    2014 profits were down on 2013 numbers, primarily due to the decline in oil prices in 2014. A brief analysis of this can be found here.

    http://priceofoil.org/profits-oil-ga...ng-u-s-canada/
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    Not much different than the inner cities - our youth have been robbed by the millions of illegals & "refugees" imported here in the USA.

    There is also a huge problem on reservations - if you have ever visited one, you will feel it. The spirit has been broken, they live on gov't supplied foods that encourage diabetes and alcoholism is rampant. If any peoples deserve a FREE college education, it is those on the "reservations". But alas...not happening..but treat illegals & "refugees" to everything imaginable. WRONG!
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    Quote Originally Posted by artist View Post
    Not much different than the inner cities - our youth have been robbed by the millions of illegals & "refugees" imported here in the USA.

    There is also a huge problem on reservations - if you have ever visited one, you will feel it. The spirit has been broken, they live on gov't supplied foods that encourage diabetes and alcoholism is rampant. If any peoples deserve a FREE college education, it is those on the "reservations". But alas...not happening..but treat illegals & "refugees" to everything imaginable. WRONG!
    I was thinking the same thing artist. They are in the same situation as those stuck in the inner cities. The difference is only that they have open space and land to roam upon if they still do, where those in the cities only have tight spaces and concrete, but the situations are almost identical. The policies don't work for either group. Maybe Trump will get into this and figure out something better for those on the reservations. I think they should move, keep their land, I have no issue with that, but move off the reservation and start anew assimilated into normal society with opportunity.

    I've been through them in Arizona and New Mexico. They're so depressing. I've wondered about this whole situation for many years, and I just don't think the reservation policies have turned out to be the right thing for most of the Tribe members. Yes, I would totally support doing whatever would encourage them to try to move off the reservation and have normal lives with good jobs. They can keep their reservation land, but in most cases, they should choose to live elsewhere and have the means and encouragement to do so. Not sure what the solution is but this situation needs a new one.
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    Don't play me for a fool, Judy. I understand the use of eminent domain for public use. What I don't understand is the taking of land for corporate profit.
    Apparently you don't. All of your energy utilities are provided by the corporations who drill for oil and gas and distribute it for sales to businesses who provide your retail seller your electricity, natural gas, gasoline, oil and so forth. They all make corporate profits, and they all have the right of eminent domain to get these products to refineries, processors and retail market sellers who are the entities you buy it from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Apparently you don't. All of your energy utilities are provided by the corporations who drill for oil and gas and distribute it for sales to businesses who provide your retail seller your electricity, natural gas, gasoline, oil and so forth. They all make corporate profits, and they all have the right of eminent domain to get these products to refineries, processors and retail market sellers who are the entities you buy it from.
    Instead of patronizing me, just read the post I provided. We only have one planet to live on. Folks that defend and make excuses for its destruction without a motivator like greed are confusing to me. I understand the greed that drives profiteers, but I don't understand how someone can support the actions of those profiteers when their greed is satisfied through the misery of others and the destruction of our fragile environment.

    While these companies reap their benefits, communities across the country suffer the impacts of climate change, oil spills and water contamination from fracking, drilling and mining.
    Many of these companies contribute millions of dollars in campaign finance to representatives and senators in the U.S. Congress, as well as to delegates and senators in State houses in key fossil fuel states around the country. This ensures that U.S. politicians represent the fossil fuel industry’s interests above those of the people that elected them. Fossil fuel industrylobbying expenditure andcontributionsto the U.S. Congress amounted to over $326 million in the 113th Congress (2013-14).

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    I support oil and gas production, the same as I support solar energy, bio-mass, bio-fuels, nuclear, clean coal and other types of energy production. I support them all. I think fracking was so rushed it still has some issues to work out, but that's the responsibility of the states that have fracking operations and I'm sure those bugs and issues will be resolved.

    The greatest threat to the United States right now is not the environment or climate change, it's bankruptcy. We fix the economic issues, and then with great wealth, prosperity and money in our pockets to pay for whatever, we can have a pow-wow on how to deal with other issues. We have plenty of regulations and government authority in effect to make sure the economic resurgence of the United States is done in a proper, reasonable and safe manner.

    On-land oil like what flows through the Keystone and will flow through the Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipeline protect our oceans by reducing the amount of oil being transported by ship on our seas and oceans. There are enormous benefits from these pipelines that actually include protecting the environment from ocean oil spills. Everything we do here has some plus or minus.

    Solar energy increases radiation in the environment. The manufacture of the panels and battery storage has all types of toxic chemicals involved and then what do you with the panels when they wear out? Off to the landfill requiring more landfill storage.

    Everything we do as humans has issues. That's why the greatest single threat to the environment is human over-population. So until environmentalists start addressing the number one issue of "threat to the environment", I'm a little bored frankly with the hysterical mania over a couple of oil pipelines that help our economy and put people to work.

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    Yes, some of the reservations, at least the ones I have been on in AZ, are pretty depressing. Of course, I would greatly prefer living there to living in an inner city.

    It seems there should be some ways for them to make a living and remain on the reservation. While I like water and trees, it is a truly beautiful land and I could see how they would love it.
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    Many Indian tribes have pretty much the same problems we do - their leaders are not necessarily interested in doing what is best for their people. Being a tribal chief can be a very lucrative job. That's nothing new, they have been doing it for many years - since some of the 'resettlements' from the Southeastern part of the country.

    On some reservations, gambling has brought good things to all the tribe, for some, it's only for some. Twas ever thus -----------

    Then there is one reservation, that has access to water and they are heavy into farming. There is a big difference.

    I can see we can't stop all fossil fuel, and I don't know how it could be made cleaner. I'm just sure it could -

    My problem is, why are we continuing to drill, transport, etc., while we are exporting it? Why did we build a pipeline to transport Canadian oil?
    Using it for the Dakota oil makes sense, though.

    We are awash with oil in this country, and the entire world - read up on the Permian Basin field that has been considered almost dead. Does that mean we have to get it all out of the ground - NOW.

    Then we could talk about refining this oil - the petrochemical plants on the Texas coast are frightening to me.

    Then we can talk about the coal industry.
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    Well, use the pipeline too. We'll use it in Texas with that line that's already under construction to connect into it and we'll use it in Nebraska when the XL line is constructed that connects into it, and I guess as time goes along and other oil producers want to use it, they can cut a deal and do so. You know we have pipelines from Alaska that go through Canada to here, so it's the same thing. I imagine there will be another Alaska pipeline coming into the US one day through Canada. These aren't government projects, they're private industry funded projects so if they see a need in the market, it should be filled. Someone somewhere needs it or they wouldn't be spending billions of their own money to get it out.

    And then there's the Chem Trails in the sky. How no one has reported on that in the media is totally beyond me. They are everywhere and getting worse. I think that's the source of increased asthma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post

    Some of this information may be a outdated, but it's an insightful source to aid someone wishing to catch up on the situation. Personally, I believe these folks have every right to fight for the protection of their water source. Additionally, after reading the following, I find their claim of environmental racism credible.



    I guess it's easy for us not actually experiencing this situation to make judgement.
    I don't think racism has anything to do with it - powerlessness is what allows this to happen. When people do not have the power, money, connections to get a place at the table, things are done to them. It can happen to all.

    A 3rd generation ranch is taken to build a race track - that happened.

    A 50 year old family business has a location a large chain store
    wants - don't know how that came out

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