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    If you believe in the rule of law and that illegal immigration should NOT be rewarded with free medical and dental care, food stamps, welfare, subsidized housing, tax breaks, amnesty and citizenship above and beyond the rights of all who respect our laws and play by the rules, then I know you're NOT a politician! What I'm trying to convey is that the two parties are opposite wings of the same bird headed in the same direction.

    I myself was a Democrat back in the 1960's and early '70's but I woke up and gave my support to Republicans until I realized that they weren't really on the side of the average American Joe either and when Reagan gave that first amnesty in the 1980's I thought the party had lost their ever loving minds!

    The more seedier and dishonest acts perpetrated by our elected representatives that I caught on to and paid close attention to, the clearer it became to me that neither party was pro-American anymore. The Clinton, Bush/Bush administrations sealed that conclusion in my mind and I no longer consider myself a member of either party. Those politicians are NOT public servants! They get into office to work on their own personal agendas. It is so obvious that you'd have to be retarded not to see it!

    I believe every American citizen has a right to belong to which ever party they want to belong to and I support that right, but politicians are slimy, lying, corrupt criminals who DO NOT HAVE THE BEST interest of this country and it's people in mind when they slither around behind closed doors and strike deals with Corporations, special interest groups (La Raza) and foreign countries without including The People in on those decisions. They allow illegal aliens and Communist/Socialist (ACLU, MALDEF, LULAC, SPLC, etc.) organizations to over ride the votes of The People in favor of illegal aliens, (i.e. California Prop 187, Hazelton, PA, Farmer's Branch, Texas, etc.) and when they allow good law abiding American citizens to be treated like second class citizens in their own country (Ramos & Compean)...well if that doesn't make the hair stand up on the back of your neck then you're one of the millions of American zombies wandering around clueless and apathetic.

    Law abiding American citizens have been defamed by this government. WE have been forced to act like criminal accomplices by allowing this government to use OUR hard earned money to fund programs that are illegally made available to illegal aliens so farmers and other slimy employers can have their cheap labor in this country. We are forced to sit by passively and not interfere with this government's blatant sanction of the drug and human trafficking going on across our Southern Border. This flies in the face of "Homeland Security" and If we interfere we could end up like Ramos & Compean or we may have to "commit suicide" if we draw too much attention to the criminal acts this government has perpetrated upon its own people as well as upon other countries.

    This government has allowed corporations like IBM to sell our technologies to a Communist nation. Wouldn't one consider this a breach of National Security? Citizens are forced by LACK of Choices to give our money to and allow goods into this country manufactured by Communist nations that don't respect human rights or abide by child labor laws, (China) AND we allow them to poison our children and our pets on top of it just so these politicians, Democrats as well as Republicans and their special interest partners can get richer and get the gold mine while WE get the shaft. Americans are unwittingly aiding and abetting these politicians to get away with crimes by funding them with OUR tax dollars and "BAIL OUT" money for their REAL PARTNERS IN CRIME! They have made us accessories to their crimes and we are guilty by association!

    It's like giving a ride to someone who you thought was your friend to the local minit mart so he can buy a pack of cigarettes. But unbeknownst to us, while we're sitting in the car out front with the motor running, waiting for our buddy to get back in the car...he's actually pulled a gun and robbing the clerk. He jumps into the car hyped up on adrenaline and screams, "DRIVE! Get the hell outta here!" you have no idea what just happened, but now you're a criminal just by being with this guy and you've just driven the "get away car" which you own and is registered in YOUR name away from the scene of a crime!

    The Democrats and Republicans in office who sit by quietly and allow this unconscionable behavior by any of our representatives to take place without trying to stop it because they may be up for re-election are just as guilty as the perpetrators. So much for "some of those guys are good people."
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    President Bush will GO down in ETERNAL INFAMY if he LEAVES office and leaves Ramos and Compean BEHIND bars!

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    Bush would just as soon wipe his muddy feet on the backs of Ramos & Compean than pardon them before he leaves office. They are right where he wants them to be.

    Remember...Patriots who want the border secured and took it upon themselves to help the Border Patrol spot illegal invaders along our border until more agents could be placed there were called "VIGILANTES" by Bush as he stood shoulder to shoulder with Vicente Fox in a public address.

    As far as he's concerned, Ramos & Compean are vigilantes for doing their jobs too well. They're political prisoners, in prison to get Bush's point across to the rest of us. He has no soul, so he doesn't care about what will happen in eternity. He'll go to where he is most comfortable and earn his reward from HIS creator, which isn't the same as ours.
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    Bush has left the border wide open and we are left unprotected... It's sad that the border patrol isn't allowed to do their job because they fear what our government might do to them...Lucky for Bush we haven't been attacked again after 9-11...It's just dumb luck.!... Lucky for Bush we haven't been attacked again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    Bush has left the border wide open and we are left unprotected... It's sad that the border patrol isn't allowed to do their job because they fear what our government might do to them...Lucky for Bush we haven't been attacked again after 9-11...It's just dumb luck.!... Lucky for Bush we haven't been attacked again.
    Are you REALLY convinced we were attacked from some outside force on 9-11-01? With that border left wide open under Bush's watch, you'd think we would have been hit again and again by those "crazed" American haters who "hate our freedom."

    Look closer, pay more attention, connect the dots and follow the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBParrothead
    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    Bush has left the border wide open and we are left unprotected... It's sad that the border patrol isn't allowed to do their job because they fear what our government might do to them...Lucky for Bush we haven't been attacked again after 9-11...It's just dumb luck.!... Lucky for Bush we haven't been attacked again.
    Are you REALLY convinced we were attacked from some outside force on 9-11-01? With that border left wide open under Bush's watch, you'd think we would have been hit again and again by those "crazed" American haters who "hate our freedom."

    Look closer, pay more attention, connect the dots and follow the money.
    Unfortunately you may be right, but I have tried not to let my mind go there. I guess it just scares the crap out of me to think they might be in on it...But I agree, alot of things just don't add up and it scares me.

    Sadly the government has proven they can't be trusted...The American people are tired of being lied to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    Quote Originally Posted by JBParrothead
    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    Bush has left the border wide open and we are left unprotected... It's sad that the border patrol isn't allowed to do their job because they fear what our government might do to them...Lucky for Bush we haven't been attacked again after 9-11...It's just dumb luck.!... Lucky for Bush we haven't been attacked again.
    Are you REALLY convinced we were attacked from some outside force on 9-11-01? With that border left wide open under Bush's watch, you'd think we would have been hit again and again by those "crazed" American haters who "hate our freedom."

    Look closer, pay more attention, connect the dots and follow the money.
    Unfortunately you may be right, but I have tried not to let my mind go there. I guess it just scares the crap out of me to think they might be in on it...But I agree, alot of things just don't add up and it scares me.

    Sadly the government has proven they can't be trusted...The American people are tired of being lied to.
    But obviously not tired enough. The borders are still open. Ramos & Compean are still in prison, more bail-outs for crooks and we're still trading with Communist Countries who are poisoning our pets and our kids, while they steal our technological secrets out from under our noses.
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    It could be that terrorists have been sneaking in by the droves and planning a multiple city attack in the future.

    Bush, most of the House and Senate look at the damage caused by illegal aliens as part of doing business. I can see Bush putting Corporate America's needs above our safety. I'll betcha there are many extra safegaurds in Washington, DC, where the politicians are.
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    JBParrotHead wrote:

    Are you REALLY convinced we were attacked from some outside force on 9-11-01?
    Yes I am. What are you suggesting? You don't really think President Bush and/or our government was directly responsible, do you? That conspiracy theory has been beat to death around here for years.

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    The 1st Marijuana arrest ever in the United States was achieved in Denver,Co in the 1800's, and a mexican was the one arrested. Peer pressure is horrible in southern California. There are so many drugs here that kids are soo tempted to do, and drug use is on the rise in our schools, and now some 30% of our children have tried marijuana in high school up from like 15% 20 years ago. Illegal aliens numbers are very high here too, as well as their supporters.
    The Police arrest many,many people in California for drug use, posession, distribution, etc... California law has become lax on drug users and the kind whereas incarceration has become a last resort. Now they give U.S. a second and third chance at life. The U.S. military also gives U.S. a second chance at Boot Camp too, I think it's a fair deal. I have heard of mexican cops here throwing dope baggies at black men in wheelchairs and then arresting them for drug use. His name was Officer Perez in Los Angeles?
    They have realized that the more people we put in prisons for drug use, and the like, the more immigrants we need to fill their role in society. We all know the amount of illegal mexicans that smuggle dope over our borders is large in size. In my opinion I feel as though the more we incarcerate our own citizens for dope usage, the more we actually are helping to destroy our own country.
    Why help mexico invade our country by assisting them in their efforts to use our own laws against U.S.?

    I am not condoning drug usage, nor am I either bashing or applauding President Bush's decision. Just offering Food For Thought. I feel as though at the least Ramos and Compean's prison sentences should be reduced to time already served or at least a shorter sentence, but I am just a grunt here. They did try to cover up the shooting to my knowledge, please correct me if I am wrong. Covering up a shooting is not a favorable thing in my book. If a cop here did that, he would also be punished. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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