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    Reconquistas want Homeland Secrty show off the air

    Monday, December 22, 2008 10:37 AM
    From: "Ron Gochez" <mexicanoatucla@aol.com>

    This is state sponsored fascist propaganda that is intended to incite the masses inside of the United States to allow and even support the continued Genocide against Indigenous peoples (aka South, Central, Latin Americans).

    Joseph Goebbels (Propaganda Minister under Hitler) would be very proud of this show!

    Sign up to tell ABC to stop spreading more propaganda that will continue to stir up more hatred towards Raza and other people of color.

    Ron Gochez
    Social Justice Educator/Community Organizer

    >Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:10:05 -0500
    >From: "Tina Shull" <tinashull13@ gmail.com>

    >Hi All,
    >
    >In an effort to mobilize a group to start a
    >letter-writing campaign to ABC to stop
    >production of the new reality series "Homeland
    >Security USA" that is set to air on January 6th,
    >please join and invite others to this Facebook
    >group. Facebook has been a highly effective
    >advocacy tool, so let's see what we can do about
    >this horrible show that is admittedly biased
    >towards showing the "good" side of DHS.
    >
    >Facebook Group "ABC: Take "Homeland Security USA" OFF the Air!"
    >
    ><http://www.facebook .com/home. php?#/group. php?gid=38289708 327>http://www.facebook .com/home. php?#/group. php?gid=38289708 327
    >
    >About the show:
    >
    >ABC Schedules a 'Homeland Security' Series
    >By Brian Stelter, New York Times
    >
    >"Homeland Security USA," a reality show produced
    >with the full cooperation of several agencies of
    >the Department of Homeland Security, will have its premiere on Jan. 6 on ABC.
    >
    >In an announcement Thursday, ABC said the
    >production "has been given unprecedented access
    >to the agencies," including Customs and Border
    >Protection, Immigration and Customs Enforcement,
    >the Transportation Security Administration and the Coast Guard.
    >
    >The show will spotlight the work of border
    >patrol officials who work on land, sea and air
    >to keep the United States secure. ABC has
    >ordered 13 episodes of the series; they will be
    >shown on Tuesdays at 8 p.m., opposite "American
    >Idol" on Fox. While reality shows about
    >harrowing jobs have prospered on cable — think
    >of "Deadliest Catch" and "Ice Road Truckers" —
    >they have yet to find an audience on broadcast TV.
    >
    >When news of the series emerged in May, the show
    >was named "Border Security USA." Although the
    >name has evolved, the show will still focus on
    >the border patrol mission. Here's the
    >description of the first episode from ABC:
    >
    >The premiere episode, "This is Your Car on
    >Drugs," takes viewers inside some of the busiest
    >international entry points to the U.S. At Los
    >Angeles International Airport, a voluptuous
    >20-year-old woman arrives from Switzerland with
    >no working papers but a suitcase full of
    >titillating surprises! In the Pacific Northwest,
    >at the Blaine, Washington border crossing,
    >smugglers attempt to foil DHS canines by packing
    >narcotics in baby diapers. Along the border
    >between the U.S. and Mexico in the scorching
    >heat of the desert outside of Tucson, Border
    >Patrol agents race the clock to find six
    >undocumented immigrants lost in the barren
    >wilderness. In one of the most dramatic stories
    >at the San Ysidro, California border crossing, a
    >fake license plate tips a border officer off to
    >a life-threatening situation. Meanwhile, th ere
    >are some unusual illegal items intercepted at
    >the International Mail Center in Carson,
    >California, including a "delicacy" officers are
    >shocked to discover is actually barbecued bats.
    >
    >In May, The Hollywood Reporter said the show was
    >"billed as the first multi-episode television
    >series to be shot in cooperation with the
    >Department of Homeland Security." The project
    >elicited complaints from some Internet users, who labeled it "propaganda. "
    >
    >The executive producer, Arnold Shapiro,
    >acknowledged at the time that the show was meant
    >to portray Homeland Security in a good light.
    >"I love investigative journalism, but that's not
    >what we're doing," he told The Reporter in May.
    >"This show is heartening. It makes you feel good
    >about these people who are doing their best to protect us."
    >
    >Tina Shull
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    >--
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    >Research Intern
    >Detention Watch Network
    >(202) 393-1044 x 237
    >Mobile (310) 210-8451
    >1325 Massachusetts Ave NW, Suite 200
    >Washington, D.C. 20005

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    This is state sponsored fascist propaganda that is intended to incite the masses inside of the United States to allow and even support the continued Genocide against Indigenous peoples (aka South, Central, Latin Americans).

    Joseph Goebbels (Propaganda Minister under Hitler) would be very proud of this show!

    Sign up to tell ABC to stop spreading more propaganda that will continue to stir up more hatred towards Raza and other people of color.

    Ron Gochez
    Social Justice Educator/Community Organizer
    He compares deportation to genocide?!?!?! This is THE most insensitive remark made by this loony-toon yet! He can't tell the difference between a deportee and a dead person?!?
    Who in their right mind would hire this idiot to EDUCATE anyone?!?!?!

    I sent an email THANKING ABC for airing this show, we ALL should. I further think we should be emailing whatever college/school this man teaches at and demand they fire him!
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    There is a lot of talk of there being a Reconquista movement among the Chicanos but there are not that many who want the former Mexican territory under the Mexican government. There is more of an actual threat from American Latino leaders wanting to further mass migration to create a social welfare state under a clientilistic patronage based ethnic political machine. If the economy of Mexico improved to the point that Mexicans wanted to remain in Mexico or return there the leaders of La Maquina MALDEF NALEO LULAC NCLR would be disappointed unless they could still vote them into power.


    Although I have not had bat myself I have known people who have and it is not that bad. It is considred to be a delicacy in certain parts of the world.
    I support enforcement and see its lack as bad for the 3rd World as well. Remittances are now mostly spent on consumption not production assets. Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

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    I wrote to the idiot that wrote this article. This is the answer I got from him.


    I guess we read different history books. You read the one's written by the slave masters and I read (and helped to write some) the ones written by the Indians and the African slaves. That's why our views are so different. It's interesting, all of the things that you said that Illegals do here (Our citizens are raped, stabbed, shot at and our children molested by these illegal invaders)...I agree with you 100%. See we aren't that different!

    The only difference is that I'm speaking of the real illegal immigrants..the ones that came on boats from Europe. You are right! Those illegals DID commit all of those awful crimes that you mentioned and did MUCH more than that. I don't recall our indigenous ancestors giving your people green cards. So who made YOU legal? As opposed to indigenous peoples from Mexico who migrate up north to their own historic homelands (and yes they cross a fictitious and illegally imposed border of death)?

    Can you really hate me for wanting to take back what your ancestors stole from mine? Nothing inside of you tells you that there is something wrong when your people live so well at the expense of my people (Indigenous) and of Africans who continue to live today in miserable conditons? You are okay with that?



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    http://abc.go.com/primetime/homelandsecurity/

    Here is the show site. It has a community forum to make supportive comments. Please take a moment to do so.

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    http://www.topix.com/forum/prisons/T7DJ9M03S78IAV5IH

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    http://abc.go.com/site/contactus.html?l ... os=CONTACT

    And most of all, please take a moment to contact ABC with you pledge to watch this series and support for the program.
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    It's clear in the trailers that the show is centered around catching the worst of the illegal border activity. In my book they are all criminal, but this show is more about "ohhhh we are catching all the REALLY bad people!" It doesn't seem to have any "immigration" issues (illegal of course), rather dangerous drug/bomb/death/etc. issues. As usual, race has to be brought in to the mix. Maybe the author has a drug smuggling brother.... then again, some folks just can't see beyond race... sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agrneydgrl
    I wrote to the idiot that wrote this article. This is the answer I got from him.


    I guess we read different history books. You read the one's written by the slave masters and I read (and helped to write some) the ones written by the Indians and the African slaves. That's why our views are so different. It's interesting, all of the things that you said that Illegals do here (Our citizens are raped, stabbed, shot at and our children molested by these illegal invaders)...I agree with you 100%. See we aren't that different!

    The only difference is that I'm speaking of the real illegal immigrants..the ones that came on boats from Europe. You are right! Those illegals DID commit all of those awful crimes that you mentioned and did MUCH more than that. I don't recall our indigenous ancestors giving your people green cards. So who made YOU legal? As opposed to indigenous peoples from Mexico who migrate up north to their own historic homelands (and yes they cross a fictitious and illegally imposed border of death)?

    Can you really hate me for wanting to take back what your ancestors stole from mine? Nothing inside of you tells you that there is something wrong when your people live so well at the expense of my people (Indigenous) and of Africans who continue to live today in miserable conditons? You are okay with that?
    The "indigenous" where I live each get $10,000 a month tax free from their casino. It's called "Sitting Bull's Revenge!". I think Ron wants to get some of that money which he in no way deserves.

    He also overlooks that Europeans were on this Continent first over 20,000 years ago before the American Indians showed up from Asia. If he wants to use this argument then he and his followers should move to Mongolia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agrneydgrl
    I wrote to the idiot that wrote this article. This is the answer I got from him.


    I guess we read different history books. You read the one's written by the slave masters and I read (and helped to write some) the ones written by the Indians and the African slaves. That's why our views are so different. It's interesting, all of the things that you said that Illegals do here (Our citizens are raped, stabbed, shot at and our children molested by these illegal invaders)...I agree with you 100%. See we aren't that different!

    The only difference is that I'm speaking of the real illegal immigrants..the ones that came on boats from Europe. You are right! Those illegals DID commit all of those awful crimes that you mentioned and did MUCH more than that. I don't recall our indigenous ancestors giving your people green cards. So who made YOU legal? As opposed to indigenous peoples from Mexico who migrate up north to their own historic homelands (and yes they cross a fictitious and illegally imposed border of death)?

    Can you really hate me for wanting to take back what your ancestors stole from mine? Nothing inside of you tells you that there is something wrong when your people live so well at the expense of my people (Indigenous) and of Africans who continue to live today in miserable conditons? You are okay with that?



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    Oh wow, thanks for the laugh, arnydgrl! He "helped" write books on Indians and African slaves? Didn't realize he was that old.

    Wonder what his "ancestors" did with the $15 MILLION the US PAID Mexico for that little piece of land. Maybe someone ought to tell him you can't "steal" what you PAID for?


    Hey Ron! "Nothing inside of you tells you that there is something wrong when you live so well at the expense of your people (Indigenous) and who continue to live today in miserable conditons IN MEXICO?!?!"

    Total clueless and racist idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowman
    The "indigenous" where I live each get $10,000 a month tax free from their casino. It's called "Sitting Bull's Revenge!". I think Ron wants to get some of that money which he in no way deserves.

    He also overlooks that Europeans were on this Continent first over 20,000 years ago before the American Indians showed up from Asia. If he wants to use this argument then he and his followers should move to Mongolia.
    If you want to use that theory, which I agree with because of the overwhelming evidence, it wasn't American Indians from Asia but rather a combination of French and Asian that created the "Native American". Discovery did great show about it a year or so back, good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fedupinwaukegan
    http://abc.go.com/primetime/homelandsecurity/

    Here is the show site. It has a community forum to make supportive comments. Please take a moment to do so.

    ************************************************

    http://www.topix.com/forum/prisons/T7DJ9M03S78IAV5IH

    ************************************************

    http://abc.go.com/site/contactus.html?l ... os=CONTACT

    And most of all, please take a moment to contact ABC with you pledge to watch this series and support for the program.
    I just sent them email in support of the show. I'll be setting my DVR so I don't miss any of it

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