Thread: SAVE ACT Where's Ron Paul? Not stepping up to the plate

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

Guys, let's try to keep this on topic.....This thread is not about Social Security, Health Care, and Ramadan......Its about the SAVE Act. Why has Ron Paul not co-sponsor it? Well, IMO it is because he does not believe in emolyer sanctions, and that is what the SAVE Act is all about. Employer sanctions are NOT in Paul's six point plan on immigration. Paul has voted against employer verification in the past. I have NEVER heard Paul say he wants to punish employers for hiring illegals. And according to the Federal Observer, the Paul campaign has admitted that he does not support employer sanctions.....All signs point to no for Dr. No. The fact that he has not co-sponsored this bill does not surprise me in the least.

Ron Paul believes it is unconstitutional for the United States military to secure this nation's borders, but consitutional to award Section 245(i) amnesty to hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens. It will be interesting to see if he supports this legislation.

Originally Posted by BrightNail

Originally Posted by tancredofan

Why did Ron Paul vote for a resolution recognizing the commencement of Ramadan?
.....

wow. Strong bigotry here:

This resolution passed: The Congress passed the resolution unanimously 376-0 on October 2,2007

Not sure what the problem is here? We have this same meaning for other religions here in America, don't we? There have been other bills that have done the same thing for Jews and Christians.

I guess you are right TancredoFan, its a terrible thing to do this. Screw those dirty Muslims in america. they are all terrorists waiting to hatch. I don't care that they are american. I don't care that they are here legally, just like everyone else... they shoud be BOMBED!!! Sh*t, why don't we just bomb Mecca like Tancredo wants.

Your the only one speaking of bombing Mecca ,not one poster here has said "bomb mecca ' .

But I will be willing to bet that mot of us would want to bomb the hell out of mecca and medina if they pull their American Hiroshima they keep threatening us with !

American Hiroshima is what Tancredo was speaking about . If they release a nuke in the 'belly of America " as stated they are going to do, then I say turn the whole place into glass !

Another reason why your muslim loving anti-jewish candidate won't get my vote . If we are attacked " AGAIN " I want retaliation big time . I think Hunter will not be on our side ,not the muslims like bush was after 911 .
Also I hear the Palistinian terrorist have a new explosive ,instead of just Nails, they will use ballbearens to blow up israeli civilians.
BrightNails I'll ask again ,are you as muslim ?

Originally Posted by tancredofan

Originally Posted by BrightNail

Originally Posted by tancredofan

Why did Ron Paul vote for a resolution recognizing the commencement of Ramadan?
.....

wow. Strong bigotry here:

This resolution passed: The Congress passed the resolution unanimously 376-0 on October 2,2007

Not sure what the problem is here? We have this same meaning for other religions here in America, don't we? There have been other bills that have done the same thing for Jews and Christians.

I guess you are right TancredoFan, its a terrible thing to do this. Screw those dirty Muslims in america. they are all terrorists waiting to hatch. I don't care that they are american. I don't care that they are here legally, just like everyone else... they shoud be BOMBED!!! Sh*t, why don't we just bomb Mecca like Tancredo wants.

BrightNail, are you claiming that the congressmen that refused to vote for this resolution are guilty of "[s]trong bigotry?

hahhahah... nice try.
No, My the direction of my comment is for a 'few' here. You tell me, HOW ON EARTH would posting the Ramadan Bill has ANY direct or indirect affect on illegal immigration or the Strive Act? It doesn't, so the person posting that was trying to implicate that voting for that was somehow wrong. In what way voting for something muslim is wrong when we have the same legislation for other groups?

Is it me, or has this forum taken a decided twist that muslims are evil doers and a few here are trying to implicate that Ron Paul is a muslim who supports terrorism. The slight remarks and innuendos is rather telling.

I "heard" that Tancredo was associated with the KKK. Should I then post unfounded and UNRESEARCHED items about this?

Originally Posted by NOamNASTY

Another reason why your muslim loving anti-jewish candidate won't get my vote . If we are attacked " AGAIN " I want retaliation big time . I think Hunter will not be on our side ,not the muslims like bush was after 911 .
Also I hear the Palistinian terrorist have a new explosive ,instead of just Nails, they will use ballbearens to blow up israeli civilians.
BrightNails I'll ask again ,are you as muslim ?

Can someone ban this troll?

I ALREADY told you, I am Italian - catholic.

I guess "Jews4RonPaul.org" would have to respectifully disagree with your assessment that he is anti-jewish, but by your posting patterns, your not much for research or logic.

Come on Nails - You can't say that the opinion or discussion of 4-10 people is the FORUM TAKING a Position.


We are watching your Ron Paul, but we are not believers.

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

Guys, let's try to keep this on topic.....This thread is not about Social Security, Health Care, and Ramadan......Its about the SAVE Act. Why has Ron Paul not co-sponsor it? Well, IMO it is because he does not believe in emolyer sanctions, and that is what the SAVE Act is all about. Employer sanctions are NOT in Paul's six point plan on immigration. Paul has voted against employer verification in the past. I have NEVER heard Paul say he wants to punish employers for hiring illegals. And according to the Federal Observer, the Paul campaign has admitted that he does not support employer sanctions.....All signs point to no for Dr. No. The fact that he has not co-sponsored this bill does not surprise me in the least.

I'm with you Bear if he doesn't sponsor or vote yes on this he is dead meat. But he isn't for supporting Israel either. So he's completely out for me.

Originally Posted by bootsalinda

Come on Nails - You can't say that the opinion or discussion of 4-10 people is the FORUM TAKING a Position.


We are watching your Ron Paul, but we are not believers.

Personally, I don't care WHO you vote for. I don't. BUT, I will take issue with persons posting goofy things.

I find it very telling when persons who support certain candidates take more time trying to dismantle those they fear, than promoting their own candidates. I have always taken the posititon of "NOT" disparaging other candidates until recently.

Personally, I would like honest and open discussion, but when people post things like...

"He wants to get rid of social security...."
or
"He is anti-semitic and loves muslims....."
etc..

To me, that is completely intellectually dishonest and tells me people are either..
1. Not doing research
2. Promoting an agenda

It is not rocket science. those who are posting the most disparaging remarks are those who support Tancredo and Hunter. They are afraid of Ron Paul's support. Its simple. Rather than talking about their candidates great points, they are too busy attacking others. To me, very telling.

Also, in the last 2 weeks - this forum has become very anti-muslim and pro-war kill everyone over in the middle east except the israelis. I am NOT on board with that.. its precisely our intervention in foreign affairs that is bankrupting us AND killing thousands of our soldiers.

Originally Posted by BrightNail

Originally Posted by NOamNASTY

Another reason why your muslim loving anti-jewish candidate won't get my vote . If we are attacked " AGAIN " I want retaliation big time . I think Hunter will not be on our side ,not the muslims like bush was after 911 .
Also I hear the Palistinian terrorist have a new explosive ,instead of just Nails, they will use ballbearens to blow up israeli civilians.
BrightNails I'll ask again ,are you as muslim ?

Can someone ban this troll?

I ALREADY told you, I am Italian - catholic.

I guess "Jews4RonPaul.org" would have to respectifully disagree with your assessment that he is anti-jewish, but by your posting patterns, your not much for research or logic.

" jews4ronpaul.org " only proves that jews are only human and have just as much a tendency as the rest of us to be self destructive, self hating fools !

We have a nation full of the idiots who are not all jews , they are called liberals and socialist .

Originally Posted by Gogo

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

Guys, let's try to keep this on topic.....This thread is not about Social Security, Health Care, and Ramadan......Its about the SAVE Act. Why has Ron Paul not co-sponsor it? Well, IMO it is because he does not believe in emolyer sanctions, and that is what the SAVE Act is all about. Employer sanctions are NOT in Paul's six point plan on immigration. Paul has voted against employer verification in the past. I have NEVER heard Paul say he wants to punish employers for hiring illegals. And according to the Federal Observer, the Paul campaign has admitted that he does not support employer sanctions.....All signs point to no for Dr. No. The fact that he has not co-sponsored this bill does not surprise me in the least.

I'm with you Bear if he doesn't sponsor or vote yes on this he is dead meat. But he isn't for supporting Israel either. So he's completely out for me.

Great. Support the pro-war candidates that is cool. You keep counting our taxdollars and soldiers for our "allies" - as we go bankrupt and our soldiers are used for cannon fodder. I will promote the only sensible choice. You keep promoting yours.

Whenever Bush decides to want to fund Mexico with a boatload of money, we are all up in arms. But when the government gives BILLIONS of our taxpayers monies to Israel, Eygpt and a dozen other countries, we don't care. Its our money, why are we giving it to governments. The constitution explicitly says we should no be taxed and then have THOSE monies used for things other than for its citizens..

"IF" you wan to support Israel with your taxpayers, by all means... but I shoudn't....

Thanks BrightNail I will.


But if you think, that brow beating others on an "illegal immigration" forum will change anyone's mind, you are mistaken. You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. (My grandmothers saying. LOL)