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Judy wrote:

See this is what I mean. Obamacare isn't a single payer health care system.

No it's not, but a single-payer system would be worse than what we have now. Aren't you tired of government intervention into our everyday lives?

Do you really want to go to a socialized health care system that lets the government ration our health care and institute waiting list for medical appointments and surgery? I for one do not!

Well, if Obama doesn't support a single-payer system, I guess he's got one up on Trump where the health care issues is concerned. A system that is totally subsidized by the federal government is not the way we need to go. Just imagine what it would do to our taxes. Very few things are free in life. Oh, and imagine what such a system would do to your beloved fair-tax numbers. To cover such an endeavor your 30% sales tax would have to go much higher. If not, how do you propose we taxpayers pay for such a system?

Originally Posted by MW

No it's not, but a single-payer system would be worse than what we have now. Aren't you tired of government intervention into our everyday lives?

Do you really want to go to a socialized health care system that lets the government ration our health care and institute waiting list for medical appointments and surgery? I for one do not!

Well, if Obama doesn't support a single-payer system, I guess he's got one up on Trump where the health care issues is concerned. A system that is totally subsidized by the federal government is not the way we need to go. Just imagine what it would do to our taxes. Very few things are free in life. Oh, and imagine what such a system would do to your beloved fair-tax numbers. To cover such an endeavor your 30% sales tax would have to go much higher. If not, how do you propose we taxpayers pay for such a system?

See this is what I mean. Trump doesn't support a socialized health care system. He supports a private single payer health care system that trades across state lines. With half of the country already on socialized health care through Medicaid, SCHIP and Medicare, this only applies to the half of the folks who aren't on a government program. Hopefully with a Trump Presidency, there will be less people on Medicaid and SCHIP because illegal aliens will be gone, immigrants will be reduced, and citizens will have good jobs again and can afford to purchase their own through a competitive industry that is regulated by the federal government instead of by states which is what occurs under interstate commerce that Trump supports.

Why would you think that because someone supports a single payer system where you buy individual plans that belong to you regardless of where you live or where you work is "free", "socialized" or costs the government anything? Trump's system will not be free and it will not be socialized.

Originally Posted by Judy

See this is what I mean. Trump doesn't support a socialized health care system. He supports a private single payer health care system that trades across state lines. With half of the country already on socialized health care through Medicaid, SCHIP and Medicare, this only applies to the half of the folks who aren't on a government program. Hopefully with a Trump Presidency, there will be less people on Medicaid and SCHIP because illegal aliens will be gone, immigrants will be reduced, and citizens will have good jobs again and can afford to purchase their own through a competitive industry that is regulated by the federal government instead of by states which is what occurs under interstate commerce that Trump supports.

Why would you think that because someone supports a single payer system where you buy individual plans that belong to you regardless of where you live or where you work is "free", "socialized" or costs the government anything? Trump's system will not be free and it will not be socialized.

A single-payer system is health services provided by a variety of public and/or private organizations but billed to a single entity. In policy discussions in the United States, the proposed single-payer is understood to be a government body in charge of administering tax payer subsidized health insurance funds. Such a system would be a disaster!

I guess that's what people who have government health insurance think, but for the rest of us, I had a private single payer policy for over 25 years, I was the sole payer, my husband had his own and he was the sole payer of his. Neither the government nor any other public/private organization had anything to do with our payments.

Originally Posted by Judy

I guess that's what people who have government health insurance think, but for the rest of us, I had a private single payer policy for over 25 years, I was the sole payer, my husband had his own and he was the sole payer of his. Neither the government nor any other public/private organization had anything to do with our payments.

You know good and well when we are discussing a single-payer system we're talking about government subsidized health care for everyone. We're not talking about you and your husbands personal insurance plan. Did you not read this:

A single-payer system is health services provided by a variety of public and/or private organizations but billed to a single entity. In policy discussions in the United States, the proposed single-payer is understood to be a government body in charge of administering tax payer subsidized health insurance funds.

The American health care system is far from perfect, but it's wrong to think that government can fix it. The socialized systems found in England and Canada are proof. We need more market forces in our medical sector, not more government controls.

I've never heard of that. In my world single payer means individual pays versus group plan where someone other than the beneficiary pays.

Trump doesn't support a government paid plan for all, only for poor people and of course Medicare for Seniors.

Originally Posted by Judy

I've never heard of that. In my world single payer means individual pays versus group plan where someone other than the beneficiary pays.

Trump doesn't support a government paid plan for all, only for poor people and of course Medicare for Seniors.

You're obviously living in a different world than the rest of us.

Excerpt:

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump says Obamacare is a disaster, yet he continues to publicly support the idea of a national single-payer health care system for the United States.

In a single-payer system, the government is the sole insurance company, thus becoming the “single payer” of all health-insurance claims.

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-...t-single-payer