Thread: Trump Says Same-Sex Marriage Is Settled Law, Abortion Isn’t

Trump Says Same-Sex Marriage Is Settled Law, Abortion Isn’t

Susan Decker @sudecker1
November 13, 2016 — 4:00 PM PST


President-elect Donald Trump arrives to speak at the New York Hilton Midtown on Nov. 9, 2016.

Photographer: MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images

• President-elect breaks with Republicans on marriage stance
• Social issue latest to put him at odds with party he leads

President-Elect Donald Trump said the issue of marriage equality in the U.S. is settled Supreme Court law and he’s “fine with that,” yet pledged to support overturning the 1973 high court decision that a woman has a right to choose to have an abortion.

Speaking on CBS’s “60 Minutes,” the Republican said it was “irrelevant” whether he personally supports same-sex marriage.

“It was already settled,” Trump said Friday at Trump Tower, according to a transcript released by the network for the interview airing Sunday. “It’s law. It was settled in the Supreme Court. I mean it’s done.”

Republican leaders in Congress have criticized the June 2015 ruling, and Trump’s statement puts him at odds with members of the party he now leads. He’s already broken with Republican orthodoxy on issues like trade and infrastructure spending.

Still, he stands firmly with party members when it comes to Second Amendment gun rights and abortion. Trump reiterated a campaign pledge to nominate Supreme Court justices that would overturn the landmark Roe v. Wade decision that said a woman has a right to privacy when it comes to ending a pregnancy. The high court in subsequent rulings has allowed some restrictions, while continuing to uphold the basic tenets of that decision.

Quick Nomination

“I’m pro-life,” Trump said in an interview with correspondent Lesley Stahl. “The judges will be pro-life.” He said the issue would be decided by individual states if the ruling were overturned.

Trump said he’ll move quickly to nominate someone to replace Justice Antonin Scalia, who died in February. Republican leaders have refused to consider President Barack Obama’s nominee, appeals court Judge Merrick Garland.

Filling Scalia’s seat will restore the court’s previous 5-4 Republican-appointed majority. With three of the remaining eight justices aged 78 or older, Trump in the next four or eight years may have the chance to reshape the nation’s top court for a generation.

Ask if it were “OK” if a woman were forced to leave her home state to have an abortion, Trump said, “we’ll see what happens.”

Read more: The Vanishing U.S. Abortion Clinic -- a QuickTake

“It’s got a long way to go, just so you understand,” he said.
Portions of the interview with Trump and his family, including his comments on retaining elements of Obamacare and his willingness to make part of his planned border wall with Mexico a mere fence, were released earlier.

On the issue of his tax returns, Trump said he would release them “at the appropriate time” and said the public doesn’t care whether he does or not. The real estate developer broke with decades of tradition in now unveiling the returns during his run.

Social Media

Trump said he would be “very restrained” in his use of Twitter to go after critics, though social media was a major factor in his nomination against more than a dozen Republican rivals in the primaries and his Nov. 8 election victory.

“It’s a modern form of communication,” he said. “Social media has more power than the money they spent, and I think maybe to a certain extent, I proved that.”

Trump said he stands by past criticisms of the Electoral College system, in which each state is given as many votes as it has members of Congress, even though he’s headed to the White House because of it. Trump was one of only four people in U.S. history to become president without winning the popular vote. The last was former President George W. Bush, who received less votes than Democrat Al Gore in 2000.“I’m not going to change my mind just because I won,” he said. “I would rather see it where you went with simple votes. You know, you get 100 million votes and somebody else gets 90 million votes and you win.”

With absentee ballots still being counted, Democrat Hillary Clinton leads Trump by more than 600,000 in the popular vote.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...isn-t-ivhazx17

Both issues of abortion rights and gay marriage are settled law. Trump knows that and has said as much during the campaign. Too bad the CORRUPT MEDIA didn't cover it. There is one appointment to the US Supreme Court to be made, the replacement of Scalia, and Trump has provided his list of 20 people to the public and media so everyone knows that the person he will nominate to replace Scalia will come from this list. Just because you replace Scalia with another Scalia type person does not mean either court decision will be reversed.

Time to move on and fix our country. Trade, Jobs, Borders, Immigration, Taxes, Inner Cities, Corruption, Terrorism, Veterans, Foreign Policy, NATO, Unfinished Wars, Health Care, Education, Infrastructure, Budget Deficits, National Debt to name the big issues.

This is what Trump said in the 60 Minutes interview that will air tonight.


President-Elect Donald Trump said the issue of marriage equality in the U.S. is settled Supreme Court law and he’s “fine with that,” yet pledged to support overturning the 1973 high court decision that a woman has a right to choose to have an abortion.

Speaking on CBS’s “60 Minutes,” the Republican said it was “irrelevant” whether he personally supports same-sex marriage.

Trump hedges on some campaign promises in post-election interview with "60 Minutes"

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During interview w/ 60 Minutes, Trump pledges to overturn Roe v Wade, but won't touch gay marriage because SCOTUS already ruled on that.

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Same sex marriage also opened the door for:
1. Spousal immigration and later on, sponsorship of relatives
2. Increased burden on Social Security System
3. Increased state and local safety net provisions
4. Rewriting a slough of administrative procedures

And I thought law was supposed to avoid radical new turns in policy?

I remember when abortion was illegal. It was a different time. Society did not accept having a child out of wedlock. Being a unwed mother was so terrific that woman were willing to risk their lives going to Mexico or back alley quacks to have abortions. Girls were dying.

Then there were medical complications. Situations where it was either the baby or the mothers life.

I watched and listened to the debate over abortion. I remember that it was about saving the lives of woman. We were told that it would be early term abortions unless it was the matter of life or death to the mother.

It was never supposed to be simply about "a woman has the right to decide about her body".

And if Roe V Wade is overturned, it will be the same thing over again, no difference. Girls and women who want to terminate an unwanted pregnancy either because they're unmarried, not ready, too young, already have children, can't afford a child or another child, are in high school, college or working and aren't in a position they want to be in when they start a family, don't want a child by the man who impregnated them, don't want to risk their lives in childbirth, it's all the same. This has been the issue for thousands of years. Roe V Wade found a legal solution on the side it should have, the pregnant girl or woman, and hopefully, that solution will remain intact for girls and women in the United States. When we look back over history and the dark ages, there were always reasons to impose on individuals for the benefit of a religion or state or something of the kind. Hopefully Americans have moved out of that thinking far enough as a whole never to return to it.

I sure hope so.

I still say late term abortions should be outlawed unless it comes down to a choice between the mother or baby's life. Any decision to have an abortion should be made sooner, not later. I can understand some of the circumstances and reasoning behind early stage abortions, but it's beyond me how anyone could even consider aborting a healthy 7-8 month old baby.