Thread: What? Govt Agents Seize Oath Keeper's New Born From Hospital

One last bit of information....... http://dprogram.net/2010/10/07/governme ... -hospital/


[quote]UPDATE:

Watchman Noyes
I have a copy of the affidavit and I can tell you that it says verbatim these words “The Division became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as “Oath Keepersâ€

Note from Stewart Rhodes:

Here is my statement for now:

We are doing all we can to confirm and document this. But if is IS accurate, and a newborn child was ripped from her mother's arms because the parents were "associated" with Oath Keepers by simply being members of our online ning discussion forum, then this is a grave crossing of a very serious line, and is utterly intolerable. It cannot be done. It cannot be allowed to stand. if it is true, then I will do all in my power to stop it. We will pull out all the stops, every lawful means of seeing that this child is returned to her parents and that all persons responsible are held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. There can be no freedom of speech, no freedom of association, no freedom to even open your mouth and "speak truth to power," no freedom AT ALL, if your children can be black bagged and stolen from you because of your political speech and associations - because you simply dare to express your love of country, and dare to express your solidarity and fellowship with other citizens and with active duty and retired military and police who simply pledge to honor their oath and obey the Constitution. It was to prevent just such outrageous content based persecution of political dissidents that our First Amendment was written. If true, then this is as bad, and in fact worse, than any of the violations of liberty that our Declaration of Independence lists as the reasons for our forefathers taking up arms in our Revolution and for separating from England. We no longer have freedom at all if this is allowed to be done. And we will not let it stand.

Stewart Rhodes
Founder of Oath Keepers
Yale Law, 04
Army Airborne School, 83

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread ... 496&page=6

From the Oath Keepers website....
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2010/10/07/ ... -hospital/
October 7th, 2010
[quote][size=150][b]Oath Keepers statement about video titled, “Government Agents Seize Oath Keeper’s New Born From Hospitalâ€

[quote]UPDATE : 10/07/2010 10.53PM PST -- We have confirmed that the affidavit in support of the order to take the child from her parents states ,along with a long list of other assertions against both parents, that “The Division became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the Oath Keepers.â€

I am a member of Oathkeepers, and have not known this organization to submit false information, although they continue to qualify it as still fluid.

Apparently the document submitted to seize the child INCLUDED membership in Oathkeepers, but also included other serious charges.

Even if the parents are incompetent and dangerous to this infant, the fact that membership in Oathkeepers was even mentioned is frightening.

I am an Army vet, and had to pay for a background check to join.

edit...Adding a comment made this morning by the babie's father here...

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2010/10/07/ ... -hospital/

97.There are NO criminal charges, they are charging us with abuse and neglect on a child that wasn’t even 16 hours old!!! This makes NO SENSE!!!

Comment by Johnathon Irish — October 8, 2010 @ 5:41 am

I hope we find out something more today about these parents. I would like to know what are the facts about them and what are not.

In reading Stewart Rhodes comments, I see there were other serious allegations against the parents other than being associated with Oath Keepers....but since when are 'allegations' facts.

This baby was taken away from her mother soon after birth, and that means the child is not getting the mother's milk which is so important to the newborns immune system......not to mention losing that bonding which can never be replaced.

Here is an update below from Oath Keepers. http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2010/10/07/ ... -hospital/

UPDATE : 10/07/2010 10.53PM PST -- We have confirmed that the affidavit in support of the order to take the child from her parents states ,along with a long list of other assertions against both parents, that “The Division became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the Oath Keepers.â€

I guess time will tell what is going on here....

Is the Department of Homeland Security Targeting "Oath Keepers"
Friday, 08 October 2010 08:40 Right Side News
http://www.rightsidenews.com/2010100811 ... persq.html

Disturbing news, and questions arise from the news of a newborn baby being seized and taken from the baby's parents, and the affadavit states the affiliation of the father, John Irish to the group "Oath Keepers".

Setting a chilling precedent and in a manner befitting the most tyrannical of regimes, the government seized a newborn baby girl today because the father has associated with the lawful, pro-peace, pro-constitution, anti-violence Oath Keepers. What makes this particularly scary is exactly that, that the ‘Oath Keepers’ is a peaceful, pro-rule of law organization which supports serving military, veterans, peace officers, and firefighters and reminds them of their oath to the Constitution of the United States in a direct and open manner.

This move is further proof of the radicalization of the government agents and their fear of the Constitution and the rule of law. Why else would they be going after peaceful law abiding citizens who have are not charged with a crime ,and go to the extend of breaking apart the family bonds.

The father, Jonathan Irish, has helped organize meetings around his home town in New Hampshire for over a year, but as far as we are aware is not an official part of the organization. His facebook page shows that he has an interest in the Constitution, the second amendment, the bill of rights, martial arts, guns, the Dukes of Hazard, and the bible. All thoroughly American interests. The mother Stephanie Janvrin fits the all American girl part; Her profile shows two beautiful toddlers at her household and show pictures of a most normal family. She is 22 years old, has two gorgeous toddlers, and a thoroughly normal facebook profile:
We spoke with one of their close friends today who told us that the family had been dutifully saving all their pennies for the arrival of baby Cheyenne, and that they were ecstatic at the birth and said that she was born a beautiful and healthy baby, and that the family was in shock the government could take away a baby from their family at less than 24 hours of age, when it needs her mother the most.

Baby Cheyenne was taken away at Concord Hospital by the so called Department of Health and Human Services, and the Division for Children, Youth and Families (DCYF).

This story was broken by George Hemminger, who is seen struggling with pain as he interviews Jonathan, baby’s Cheyenne father:

Continued.......

there are two things that need to happen here.

One, the mother needs to speak out publicly.

Two, that affidavit needs to go up online for all to see.

W

edit......I just found out that TheSonsOfLiberty have a blogtalkradio site.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sonsoflibertyriders

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

there are two things that need to happen here.
One, the mother needs to speak out publicly.

Two, that affidavit needs to go up online for all to see.

W

Absolutely. I hope we hear something today.

Here is the father's page...
John C Irish's Page http://americanlibertyriders.ning.com/p ... e=activity

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Page 1 of a change of venue request (part of the legal documentation for this case) has been posted here: http://www.prisonplanet.com/government- ... rents.html

This is by no means the entire story, but it sheds some additional light. There was probably a whole wad of documents involved, and this is just one page.