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    Moved to General Discussion. Not a news article.
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    I guess it's a start, but still far below what was promised to us. I also want to see this in ALL major cities, like Chicago, New York, Dallas, Atlanta, etc.

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    6 Million Dollar Man, we have 30 million illegal aliens in the US and 5,000 ICE Agents who also manage legal immigration and customs violations. We have 800,000 state and local police officers. I'd say we need the assistance of state and local police officers. The feds can't do this by themselves. We would need 100,000 ICE Agents at least. We could have those if we weren't paying 100,000 IRS officials to process the income tax. Keep that in mind. Hell, the FBI has 35,000 employees and they can't track down Nikolas Cruz who is planning to shoot up a school. State and local police officers can and should be the ones to do this in cooperation with ICE to process them out of here. So, we need an EO from the President that authorizes state and local police to engage in assisting in the arrests and detention of illegal aliens, criminal or non-criminal, without fear of reprisal or lawsuit by the federal government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    6 Million Dollar Man, we have 30 million illegal aliens in the US and 5,000 ICE Agents who also manage legal immigration and customs violations. We have 800,000 state and local police officers. I'd say we need the assistance of state and local police officers. The feds can't do this by themselves. We would need 100,000 ICE Agents at least. We could have those if we weren't paying 100,000 IRS officials to process the income tax. Keep that in mind. Hell, the FBI has 35,000 employees and they can't track down Nikolas Cruz who is planning to shoot up a school. State and local police officers can and should be the ones to do this in cooperation with ICE to process them out of here. So, we need an EO from the President that authorizes state and local police to engage in assisting in the arrests and detention of illegal aliens, criminal or non-criminal, without fear of reprisal or lawsuit by the federal government.
    I agree. We need way more ICE agents, and also state and local police, not only to cooperate with ICE, but also be allowed to arrest and detain illegal aliens as well.

    But the number one thing that I think will make the biggest difference of all, even if we don't get more ICE agents, is to make E-Verify mandatory for all employers and to go straight after the employers of illegal aliens with extremely heavy fines and jail time. The bees won't come if there's no honey.

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    What people need to understand about E-Verify is that it doesn't prevent the hiring of illegal aliens. All it does is verify for an employer that the person they are hiring is illegal, if they choose to use it. Most employers already know their illegal workers are illegal, they arranged for them through these cartel run labor networks. People who choose to violate the law choose to do that and there's really no system that will force them to comply if that's how they want to operate. Fines and jail time will change that around, but that requires enforcement. You get a new Congress, a new President, and they just stop enforcing. That's how we got to this mess to begin with. All the farmers and industries and contractors who hire illegal aliens, they know they're illegal. They hire them because they're illegal. So E-Verify is a useful tool, but it's not a solution by any means. The criminal elements behind illegal immigration are far richer, far meaner, far more clever and far more powerful than our government enforcers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    What people need to understand about E-Verify is that it doesn't prevent the hiring of illegal aliens. All it does is verify for an employer that the person they are hiring is illegal, if they choose to use it.
    Yeah, but making E-Verify mandatory, along with extremely heavy fines and possible jail time for employers who employ illegals, will prove right off the bat that the employer knew that he/she hired illegals, and prosecuting him/her will be easy because he/she can't say that he/she didn't know that his or her employees were illegal. See how that works? I know, I'm brilliant.

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    Yes, it makes it easier to prosecute whenever they get caught.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Yes, it makes it easier to prosecute whenever they get caught.

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