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    Quote Originally Posted by SCALLYWAG
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    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15017

    This was written in 2006. So I would say pretty darn soon..
    I would rather prefer an original idea/thought as opposed to copy & paste.

    In any event, I wonder if this is the pretext before we reach a One World Government with One World Currency etc. It's a bit evident, as the powers & funds continue to be consolidated to a limited few. The Elite, if you will.
    Well they want to segment the world in 3 unions and then finally combine them into one! The European Union is created and the NAU and the Asian unions are possibilities and African and Central/South American Unions too. Its corporate greed that are fueling these "trade zones" it would be easier to make a multinational currency and market unions before jamming a political union down the citizens throats!
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    I am ashamed to admit my mother was fighting this one world stuff when I was in high school many years ago and I just thougt she was crazy! Now it's all in my face up real and close. I had to apologize recently after I had joined ALIPAC and read the Late Great USA.

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    After reading all these posts about the nightmare that is happening to our country and realizing this president is committing treason against the American people. I look forward to the day he is behind bars for his crimes! Non of this should be happening to us!

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    I think it has been happening for quite a while even before Bush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    After reading all these posts about the nightmare that is happening to our country and realizing this president is committing treason against the American people. I look forward to the day he is behind bars for his crimes! Non of this should be happening to us!
    I agree! Why hasn't congress and senate bring impeachment files up yet? They were going to impeach Clinton on a "personal" matter, but Bush has chopped up our country and sold parts to China, India, Dubai, Mexico, ect, ect!
    So where is his impeachment hearings??? He is holding high level meetings with other world officials and they are secret to the American people even though it would destroy our country? Lets look at the meaning of treason -

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    To avoid the abuses of the English law (including executions by Henry VIII of those who criticized his repeated marriages), treason was specifically defined in the United States Constitution, the only crime so defined. Article III Section 3 delineates treason as follows:

    Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

    The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

    However, Congress has, at times, passed statutes creating treason-like offense with different names (such as sedition in the 1798 Alien and Sedition Acts, or espionage and sabotage in the 1917 Espionage Act) that do not require the testimony of two witnesses and have a much broader definition than Article Three treason. For example, some well-known spies have been convicted of espionage rather than treason.

    The Constitution does not itself create the offense; it only restricts the definition. The crime is prohibited by legislation passed by Congress. Therefore the United States Code at 18 U.S.C. § 2381 states "whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States." The requirement of testimony of two witnesses was inherited from the British Treason Act 1695.

    In the history of the United States there have been fewer than 40 federal prosecutions for treason and even fewer convictions. Several men were convicted of treason in connection with the 1794 Whiskey Rebellion but were pardoned by President George Washington. The most famous treason trial, that of Aaron Burr in 1807 (See Burr conspiracy), resulted in acquittal. Politically motivated attempts to convict opponents of the Jeffersonian Embargo Acts and the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850 all failed. Most states have provisions in their constitutions or statutes similar to those in the U.S. Constitution. There have been only two successful prosecutions for treason on the state level, that of Thomas Dorr in Rhode Island and that of John Brown in Virginia.

    After the American Civil War, no person involved with the Confederate States of America was tried for treason, though a number of leading Confederates (including Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee) were indicted. Those who had been indicted received a blanket amnesty issued by President Andrew Johnson as he left office in 1869.

    Several people generally thought of as traitors in the United States, including Jonathan Pollard, the Walker Family, Robert Soblen, and Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, were not prosecuted for treason, but rather for espionage. John Walker Lindh, an American citizen who fought with the Taliban against the U.S.-supported Northern Alliance, was convicted of conspiracy to murder U.S. nationals rather than treason.

    The Cold War saw frequent associations between treason and support for (or insufficient hostility toward) Communist-backed causes. The most memorable of these came from Senator Joseph McCarthy, who characterized the Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Harry Truman administrations as "twenty years of treason." McCarthy also investigated various government agencies for Soviet spy rings; however, he acted as a political fact-finder rather than criminal prosecutor. Despite such rhetoric, the Cold War period saw few prosecutions for treason.

    On October 11, 2006, a federal grand jury issued the first indictment for treason against the United States since 1952, charging Adam Yahiye Gadahn for videos in which he spoke supportively of al-Qaeda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by working4change
    I think it has been happening for quite a while even before Bush.
    You are probably right about this has been happening for quite awhile, even before Bush...But we need to start somewhere and I think we should start with Bush. I voted for this man once, and that was before I realized he was a criminal. He needs to be prosecuted for crimes against the American people. This would set an example to all future candidates for president that we aren't going to put up with all his policies that are doing damage to the United States! The man is working against the good of the United States! I feel he is just plain evil!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    Quote Originally Posted by working4change
    I think it has been happening for quite a while even before Bush.
    You are probably right about this has been happening for quite awhile, even before Bush...But we need to start somewhere and I think we should start with Bush. I voted for this man once, and that was before I realized he was a criminal. He needs to be prosecuted for crimes against the American people. This would set an example to all future candidates for president that we aren't going to put up with all his policies that are doing damage to the United States! The man is working against the good of the United States! I feel he is just plain evil!
    Its started in 1913.... The creation of the Federal Reserve and the 16th Amendment! Sure Bush is seen to be the enemy here and he hasn't made things better but his father and Bill Clinton has blood on there hands too, as does the presidents before them!
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    I agree it should start with this one!!!!! I voted for him also the first time but who knew what he would become. A friend of mine sent me a site for impeaching Bush. Nothing to do with illegal immigration but ...
    http://www.impeachbush.org/site/PageServer

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    I am no "survivalist", but.......time to take any hedge money you have tucked in tin cans under your floorboards and shop for as much non-perishable as you can afford to have and store.

    This has been on my husbands and my mind for some time now. Not saying I believe we will give in to this, but needing to be prepared for what is to come is what feels right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanElizabeth


    I am no "survivalist", but.......time to take any hedge money you have tucked in tin cans under your floorboards and shop for as much non-perishable as you can afford to have and store.

    This has been on my husbands and my mind for some time now. Not saying I believe we will give in to this, but needing to be prepared for what is to come is what feels right.
    The best way is to buy gold that will still hold its value on foreign trade markets..... HEHE kind of funny but to keep your money this may be the only way to keep its value...
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