Thread: BLOODBATH at Immigration Center in NY!!

There's something weird buried in this story:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/04/03/bin ... index.html

(CNN) -- A lone gunman killed at least 12 people and himself Friday in an immigration services center in Binghamton, New York, a government official said.


Emergency personnel tend to a person taken from the building where the shootings took place.

1 of 3 The gunman carried identification that said he was 42 and from upstate New York, the official said.

A warrant is being obtained to search the suspected shooter's home in nearby Johnson City, another law enforcement source said.

Officials would not name the suspect.

Five people were wounded, the official said. Watch latest on shootings in upstate New York »

Three victims were taken to Wilson Medical Center with gunshot wounds to various extremities, Wilson spokeswoman Christina Boyd said.

A fourth victim was taken to another area hospital, Boyd said.

The local police command center said SWAT teams are still inside, clearing the building.

President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama offered their condolences to the grieving community.

"Michelle and I were shocked and deeply saddened to learn about the act of senseless violence in Binghamton, New York, today," he said. "Our thoughts and prayers go out to the victims, their families and the people of Binghamton."

Vice President Joe Biden, who was in New York on unrelated business, also condemned the acts and called on Americans to stop the cycle of violence.

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"I'd ask you to keep all those folks in your prayers," he said. "I think it's time that, we gotta figure a way to deal with this senseless, senseless violence." Watch Biden call shootings 'senseless' »

The shootings began about 10:30 a.m. ET at the American Civic Association, which helps immigrants and refugees, a law enforcement source said.

More than a dozen people were wounded, and 20 to 40 people may have been taken hostage, the source said.

"This is a horrible situation," Gov. David Paterson said. Watch Gov. Paterson ask for moment of silence »

"There's no available data on what's going on there other than the fact that lives have been lost."

Two people who were led from the building in plastic handcuffs are not considered suspects, WBNG reported.

Video from the scene showed a person on a stretcher being taken to an ambulance. Watch witness describe his shock over incident »

The Press & Sun-Bulletin said that about 10 people came out of the building shortly after noon. They emerged with their hands on their heads. The police searched some of them, the newspaper reported.
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About 12:40 p.m., another 10 -- clad in white sheets -- came out of the rear of the building, the newspaper said.

The FBI sent hostage negotiators and an evidence response team to the scene, spokesman Richard Kolko said.

Nearby apartments were evacuated, and Binghamton High School was locked down for most of the afternoon.

"Within minutes, [the situation] turned into one just flooded with police," Bob Joseph, news director of WNBF Radio, told CNN. Are you there? See submitted images, send your own

The American Civic Association helps immigrants and refugees with a number of issues, including personal counseling, resettlement, citizenship and reunification, and provides interpreters and translators, according to the United Way of Broome County, which is affiliated with the association.

Rashidun Haque, who owns a nearby convenience store, said police had him and his four customers stay inside and away from the windows.

"I'm really shaky, because this kind of thing -- it's a small city, it's a beautiful city, but nothing goes down serious like this," Haque said. Watch store owner describe police 'flooding the streets' »


He said the Civic Association building is about a two-minute walk from downtown.

Binghamton is about 140 miles northwest of New York City.

Pretty sad.... those people were doing the right thing and payed for it with their lives...just goes to show that life is not fair whether you follow the law or not! Illegals are not the only ones that risk their lives to be here so let it go msm and government!! Legal immigrants and American citizens are the real victims today and everyday at the expense of their Illegal counterparts demands and sobs..

JIVERLY VOONG: Binghamton Shooter INFO & UPDATED NEWS

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April 3, 2009 at 04:22 PM

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From ABC in Jiverly Vong:

The gunman, Jiverly Voong, held dozens of people hostage for several hours before shooting himself to death, police said.

According to multiple state law enforcement officials, the gunman entered the one-story American Civic Association in downtown Binghamton about 10 a.m. today and began a shooting spree.

Jiverly Voong is from nearby Johnson City and has an alternate name:

He allegedly walked into the center wearing a greenjacket and dark-rimmed glasses with a hunting knife tucked into the waistband of his pants.

Voong had backed his car up to the back door of the building to block any escape before he went around to the front door and started to execute people.

NBC also reported the gunman may have been a Vietnamese immigrant named Jiverly Voong.

Jiverly Voong is believed to be 42: "Jiverly Voong, a 42 year old local man of Vietnamese origin."

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Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

I’m not saying the government did this shooting to inflame the public, but it is funny how events seem to precede legislation that just happens to be written and ready for debate.

And the Black Helicopters are going to come and take us away to interment camps that only you know about ?

[b][MOD EDIT] You totally miss the point! Just because you can only think in one dimension, don't assume the world is like you! You’re handle proves that out doesn’t it “John Doeâ€

Updated 7m ago
By Kevin Johnson, Andrea Stone and Marisol Bello, USA TODAY

A gunman walked into a center Friday where immigrants were taking a citizenship test in Binghampton, N.Y., and killed 13 people and then committed suicide with a handgun.

The suspected gunman carried identification with the name of 42-year-old Jiverly Voong of nearby Johnson City, N.Y. The suspect's body was found with a gunshot wound in an office of the American Civic Association building, an immigration services center in Binghampton.

Police say he barged through the front door firing the handgun.

At least six people were wounded, one critically, and taken to hospitals.

The gunman had recently been let go from IBM in Johnson City, said Rep. Maurice Hinchey, whose district includes Binghamton.

"People were there in the process of being tested for their citizenship," Hinchey said in a telephone interview. "It was in the middle of a test. He just went in and opened fire."

At one point more than 40 hostages were being held in the building at 131 Front St. — 15 in a closet and 26 in the boiler room, the Press & Sun Bulletin of Binghamton reported. At 2:40 p.m., Binghamton police indicated the situation was over and that a SWAT team was making sure no more people were inside the building, where citizenship classes had been scheduled Friday.

This story like so many others with 24hrs of coverage is going to filled with speculation and spin to keep the ratings up until the facts are actually released.

If this guy was let go from IBM it might be case like some of the recent ones that have happened with people killing multiple family members or in-laws. Obviously this was an unstable person on the edge. Maybe he lost his job to someone here on a visa, we don't know what happened. He's obviously an immigrant himself if he's only been here 28 years and he's 42.

Notice how these nutbags always kill a bunch of people in so called sanctioned "Gun Free Zones" Like govt buildings, churches, schools. All places where good people that could have done something and fired back but they can't because they couldn't have their personal protection gun with them?

When they realize that when they outlaw guns only the outlaws will use and have them!!

I am just so sick of the media focusing on the gun and not the nutbag! Just like they do with calling illegals, immigrants and not focusing on their actions.

There is an amazing amount of cover up going on by the news media. During the press conference with the governor of NY, the Mayor, etc... they had already received phone calls from the White House.

The major media that usually covers 24/7 a story where any shooter kills anyone, is sure keeping this story underwraps!!!!! I just pick up small bits and pieces here and there...

Even Lou Dobbs is a "no show" tonight.

This just proves the national media is owned by the executive branch of our government. This is all the proof as to why we never hear of all the cruel and brutal murders committed by illegals in this country every day. We never hear the statistics that illegals have killed more peeps than all this country's major wars combined. All "not allowed to be reported".

Items seized from home of suspected NY gunman

By JOHN KEKIS, Associated Press Writer John Kekis, Associated Press Writer – 8 mins ago

JOHNSON CITY, N.Y. – Authorities have searched the home of the suspected gunman in the New York state immigrant center shooting.

Police carried out three computer hard drives, a brown canvas rifle case, a briefcase, a small suitcase and several paper bags Friday evening.

Thirteen people were killed at the American Civic Association center in nearby Binghamton before the gunman apparently committed suicide.

The suspected gunman carried ID with the name of 42-year-old Jiverly Voong (VUNG'). A law enforcement officer speaking on condition of anonymity said that was believed to be an alias.

Rep. Maurice Hinchey says the man known as Voong had recently been let go from IBM. The company could not immediately confirm that.

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Associated Press writers Devlin Barrett in Washington and William Kates in Binghamton contributed to this report.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below

Originally Posted by BetsyRoss

I can see the gun "control" [confiscation] people jumping on this, but I can't wait to find out what the killer's (or killers') motive was.

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They may jump on it but the fact remains that through their efforts of the past everyone is pretty much unarmed now and at the mercy of anyone that wants to shoot at them.