Thread: Feds announce ‘zero tolerance’ policy for illegal immigration

Originally Posted by jtdc

If working for the drug cartels is their only option in this country, why bother to come here when they can do the same thing without leaving home?

When the NG shuts them off at the border, they will be unemployed and will self-deport!

You're asking why they come here to work for the cartels? We're the market for the cartels. Well over $300 billion a year, the largest single country recreational drug business in the world by a mile right next door to them with a wide open border and domestic drugs are illegal, so no competition except in states that have legalized marijuana. To work our market they have to buy up politicians to keep the borders open, they do this through their "workers" who just want a "better life". They work by day as their cover and run the drug business for the cartels at night. The cartels need runners and traffickers, to haul the drugs in, carry them all over the United States, distribute, sell, collect, account, package, re-package, enforce territory, and haul the money back out. It takes millions of cartel workers to do this and you add their families and you're into the tens of millions of illegal aliens in the United States servicing the cartels. They also run other enterprises, sex trades, scams, frauds, identity theft, embezzlement, hacking, illegal labor networks, money laundering, all types of criminal activity in addition to the recreational drug business. They save their drug earnings and start businesses, buy homes, start their own businesses, buy farms, and send their kids to college who become politicians.

We'll never stop illegal immigration into the United States until we end the War on Drugs, have a legal domestic-only trade, no imports, no exports, which shuts down the foreign cartels because you ran them out of business through competition with a legal, regulated, safe and preferred business structure for the drug consumer. Sure like the cigarette business, there will be thieves and cheats, but like the cigarette business, too small to mention. You put law enforcement on those small volumes of illegal cross border drugs, and they'll nip it in the bud pretty quick. In the meantime, you'll have shut down 90% of the illegal foreign drug trade and with it 95% of illegal immigration. That's a win-win by the numbers from A to Z every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Trump needs to tell all those Mexican NAFTA trade negotiators, by the way, we're going to legalize the drug trade, you won't be able to participate in ours, and we need to write that into our renegotiated agreement, and watch them turn white, the blood will run right to their feet. They might faint right there in their chairs, because virtually all that drug money ends up in Mexico.

We need to stop illegal immigration by building the 30 FOOT wall.

No papers, no entry, no rights, no court, no asylum...deport right back over the FIRST border they illegally crossed.

No amnesty #8
No DACA
No path to stay
No welfare, food stamps, housing, jobs, bank accounts, Driver's License
No medical care...refuse care unless life threatening
No IRS tax refunds
No school

NO ANCHOR BABY SCAM...THEY ARE NOT U.S. CITIZENS...NEVER WERE...NOW SHUT IT DOWN!

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO and NO!!!

Originally Posted by Judy

they do this through their "workers" who just want a "better life".

If some of the reporting I've seen is true, many of those who illegally come into this country do not want to stay. They come for the money which they send home for their families. Those who want to be here usually learn English. You're buying into the leftist sympathy cry.

Originally Posted by Judy

We'll never stop illegal immigration into the United States until we end the War on Drugs,

Or win it!

Originally Posted by Judy

Sure like the cigarette business, there will be thieves and cheats, but like the cigarette business, too small to mention.

If you legalize drugs and tax them, will you not see new criminal enterprises to bootleg distribution of those products much like the Moonshiners during Prohibition? You boast of all the tax money that could be collected, I see a major underground market profiting by getting around them.

Originally Posted by Judy

and watch them turn white, the blood will run right to their feet. They might faint right there in their chairs, because virtually all that drug money ends up in Mexico.

What an imagination!

The entire business is underground and profiting now, except in those states that have legalized and those states are collecting a lot of tax they weren't collecting before.

Originally Posted by Judy

The entire business is underground and profiting now, except in those states that have legalized and those states are collecting a lot of tax they weren't collecting before.

The drug cartels will always undercut any legal marijuana business. Besides that, marijuana isn't there only business. They are very diversified. It's wrong headed to think legalizing pot will end the drug cartels illegal business enterprise in the United States. We must secure the border and root them out of every nook and cranny they're hiding in. Aggressive law enforcement and a secure border is where we start! I'm not buying into your 'surrender' theory.

Marijuana is 70% of the illegal recreational drug trade over the Southern Border into the US.

Originally Posted by Judy

Marijuana is 70% of the illegal recreational drug trade over the Southern Border into the US.

A ton of marijuana isn't worth as much as a pound of heroin. Yet it is still big business for them. Anything to help the bottom line.

It's about the illegal immigration trafficking, it takes a lot more illegal aliens running big loads of marijuana than it does heroin. They can fly the heroin in. The logic is if you legalize weed in the states, that reduces or eliminates most if not all of the illegal imported marijuana which reduces the number of illegal aliens you need to run that illegal operation. If the trafficking were even and it's not, marijuana is labor-intensive on distribution, then you've cut at least 70% or more of the illegal immigration related to the illegal trafficking, packaging, repackaging, sales, distribution, collection and money laundering associated with marijuana. Then all the illegal aliens living here and running the business lose their cartel jobs, no cash tax free money, and all they have left is their deflated wage jobs and they look at each other and say, "well, hell, we can't live here on this, now we're just dumb Gringos, lets pack up our loot and go home where it's a lot cheaper to live before they come arrest us and confiscate our drug loot."

I think it would make a difference, a big difference. Americans run the business, no crime, no crime costs, safer drugs, communities and states collect taxes, cartels are pushed out of the business, illegal aliens give up and go home, Americans get their jobs back.

That's how I see it. A 70% reduction in illegal immigration just from legalizing weed, to me that's a huge plus just on that issue, but it resolves other issues at the same time. That's why it's a win-win in my book. Then Congress or our Executive Agencies can put the squeeze on to raid the employers, mandate E-Verify, cut tax refunds, cut food stamps, free school lunch, welfare and Medicaid to illegal aliens and their children, and without their drug money, life here will be very miserable.

Originally Posted by Judy

It's about the illegal immigration trafficking, it takes a lot more illegal aliens running big loads of marijuana than it does heroin. They can fly the heroin in. The logic is if you legalize weed in the states, that reduces or eliminates most if not all of the illegal imported marijuana which reduces the number of illegal aliens you need to run that illegal operation. If the trafficking were even and it's not, marijuana is labor-intensive on distribution, then you've cut at least 70% or more of the illegal immigration related to the illegal trafficking, packaging, repackaging, sales, distribution, collection and money laundering associated with marijuana. Then all the illegal aliens living here and running the business lose their cartel jobs, no cash tax free money, and all they have left is their deflated wage jobs and they look at each other and say, "well, hell, we can't live here on this, now we're just dumb Gringos, lets pack up our loot and go home where it's a lot cheaper to live before they come arrest us and confiscate our drug loot."

I think it would make a difference, a big difference. Americans run the business, no crime, no crime costs, safer drugs, communities and states collect taxes, cartels are pushed out of the business, illegal aliens give up and go home, Americans get their jobs back.

That's how I see it. A 70% reduction in illegal immigration just from legalizing weed, to me that's a huge plus just on that issue, but it resolves other issues at the same time. That's why it's a win-win in my book. Then Congress or our Executive Agencies can put the squeeze on to raid the employers, mandate E-Verify, cut tax refunds, cut food stamps, free school lunch, welfare and Medicaid to illegal aliens and their children, and without their drug money, life here will be very miserable.

Like I said earlier, the drug cartels will undercut the legal trade. While the legal trade might cut into the profits some, it won't stop the cartels from operating on the black market. For example, let's say Denver Colorado is selling 1 once of marijuana for $200. Okay, since the cartels have lower overhead they can sell it for much less, maybe even half as much. Legalization will not shut down the black market.

But it's illegal. Why would anyone buy illegal drugs from murderous foreign criminals when you can buy them legally in nice stores from Americans? I mean I guess you'd buy illegal food off the dairy farm or cigarette out of a truck or booze from some bearded guy way back in the woods or drugs from thugs if you saved some money, but most Americans prefer legal, safe, convenient products. Most Americans only deal on the black market when the product they want isn't available on the legal market, and that's more than enough Americans as states legalize cannibis to shut down this huge part of the foreign illegal drug trade to reduce illegal immigration by at least 70% over the Southern Border without a wall, without more Border Patrol agents, without more immigration judges, without any more of anything to deal with that portion of border crossings. That frees up existing resources to deal with the others.

And if there's a domestic black market to avoid the taxes, I don't care about that from an illegal immigration standpoint, that's up to the regulators and tax collectors to deal with. If it's a foreign black market, then BP now has more resources to deal with it.

It's all win-win. Time to start making progress.