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    Trump didn't say it. It was the Pentagon who said it a month or so ago. They said that under Title X law, they could build the walls/barriers to deal with a national emergency or to counter illegal drug operations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Trump didn't say it. It was the Pentagon who said it a month or so ago. They said that under Title X law, they could build the walls/barriers to deal with a national emergency or to counter illegal drug operations.
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    Trump tweeted on the 19th of December that he would use the military to build the wall.

    There was never any reason for the government shutdown.
    Which is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    Which is it?
    It's two different things. One is having the military build the wall - Trump. The other is using the military to build the wall for national emergencies - Pentagon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    It's two different things. One is having the military build the wall - Trump. The other is using the military to build the wall for national emergencies - Pentagon.


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    No, it's the Rule of Law. I realize this little thing called Rule of Law gets in the way of your wild-eyed, hair-on-fire tin foil hat rhetoric in our little Republic home of the free and land of the brave, but that's the way it is. If you don't like the law, you have to win enough elections to win enough seats to have enough votes to change them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    No, it's the Rule of Law. I realize this little thing called Rule of Law gets in the way of your wild-eyed, hair-on-fire tin foil hat rhetoric in our little Republic home of the free and land of the brave, but that's the way it is. If you don't like the law, you have to win enough elections to win enough seats to have enough votes to change them.



    Rule of Law has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion ---start at your Post # 17 and read forward.
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    Apparently not in your mind. The authority of the President to use the military to build the wall comes from Title X Statute, which is the Rule of Law applicable to this situation. Under that law there are two different ways a President can use military to build a wall/barriers, 1. is national emergency, which is brief, short-term, temporary, 60 days 2. is counter illegal drug operations, which does not require a "national emergency", can be long-term and continuous to prevent illegal drugs from entering the United States, which at the same time blocks human smuggling corridors at the same time.

    Focusing on 1. instead of 2. is as big a mistake as the government shutdown and rescinding DACA 2012 instead of letting it expire in June 2017 with the other two. Mistakes have consequences which is why in a rational world, one tries to avoid them. It's why we're a Republic instead of a Democracy. It's why we have an Electoral College. It's why we have a Filibuster Rule. It's why US Senators have 6 year terms instead of 2 year terms like the House.

    Remember the words of Franklin when he walked out of the Constitutional Convention and was asked by the doctor, do we have a Republic or a Monarchy, and Franklin said "a Republic if you can keep it."
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