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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I forgot to mention the other advantage of what Trump is doing. The more quickly H1B workers already here for years, self-sustaining, middle income or above income earners move to green card status, the more green cards that are used up with people who are already here supporting themselves without welfare, and the less overall new immigration especially uneducated poverty ridden welfare sucking chain migration associated with the green card program, so he's cutting legal immigration in two ways, reducing green card migration as well as reducing use of the H1B program. This was all in his campaign documents, it was in the DACA deal which failed, so this is simply moving the ball forward through regulatory changes instead of by act of Congress which Congress isn't able to do, because Republicans don't have enough seats to get the votes to pass a bill to fix anything with our immigration system.

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    LOL!! Is that what you think it is? The truth about Trump's long planned changes to the H1B, other types of visas and Green Card programs that were in his campaign materials, in the Goodlatte and Grassley bills, is in his new regulations because the Goodlatte and Grassley bills failed to pass is .... spinning? Wow.

    Next time study up on your candidate. Trump wants to get rid of the H1B program and most other stupid visas and convert the Green Card program to a merit-based immigration system that brings these qualified, skilled, capable, self-sufficient people into the United States to fill certain needs and voids at American wages subject to all American labor laws without tax benefits, without exceptions to labor laws, without deflated wages, without welfare, without subsidy, without chain migration, and with dramatic reductions in the total numbers.

    He was very clear about all of that if you knew or understood what he was talking about.

    Promises Made. Promises Kept.

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    The H1B visa allows companies to bring in cheap foreign labor.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...a_holders.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by patbrunz View Post
    The H1B visa allows companies to bring in cheap foreign labor.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...a_holders.html
    Yes, as it is now, that is what it is and does, but once they become Green Card holders, companies don't have the same leverage to underpay them and the less attractive the program is to employers if they were hiring these foreign workers to save money.

    Not all companies abuse the H1B program, but a lot do.

    You'll see what he's doing when the regulation comes out. He would prefer to increase the number of H1B's and eliminate chain migration under the Green Card rules. That maneuver whenever he can do it would reduce Green Card immigration by almost 800,000 while only increasing H1B's by 5,000. So the net reduction in legal immigration just from those 2 changes would be around 78,000 permanent immigrants a year. That is a huge reduction if he can make it all work through regulations.

    He's already written the regulation to deny Green Card entry for any public charge or anyone who would likely become a public charge from Green Card eligibility. He's also had the US Department of Labor crack down on cheating H1B employers who were lying on their applications about the need for foreign workers when what they were really doing was laying off Americans and replacing them with H1B workers. That's stopped.

    He's also wanting to get rid of the E4 spouse visa for the H1B and is redefining the definition of a skilled worker under that program. He's also putting a priority for American Educated H1B's.

    So he's been a Busy Bee on fixing the H1B program and what he can do on Green Cards. It's pretty brilliant what he's doing. I think everyone who wants to see a net reduction in legal immigration is going to be very pleased with Donald J Trump and his Presidency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Yes, as it is now, that is what it is and does, but once they become Green Card holders, companies don't have the same leverage to underpay them and the less attractive the program is to employers if they were hiring these foreign workers to save money.

    Not all companies abuse the H1B program, but a lot do.

    You'll see what he's doing when the regulation comes out. He would prefer to increase the number of H1B's and eliminate chain migration under the Green Card rules. That maneuver whenever he can do it would reduce Green Card immigration by almost 800,000 while only increasing H1B's by 5,000. So the net reduction in legal immigration just from those 2 changes would be around 78,000 permanent immigrants a year. That is a huge reduction if he can make it all work through regulations.

    He's already written the regulation to deny Green Card entry for any public charge or anyone who would likely become a public charge from Green Card eligibility. He's also had the US Department of Labor crack down on cheating H1B employers who were lying on their applications about the need for foreign workers when what they were really doing was laying off Americans and replacing them with H1B workers. That's stopped.

    He's also wanting to get rid of the E4 spouse visa for the H1B and is redefining the definition of a skilled worker under that program. He's also putting a priority for American Educated H1B's.

    So he's been a Busy Bee on fixing the H1B program and what he can do on Green Cards. It's pretty brilliant what he's doing. I think everyone who wants to see a net reduction in legal immigration is going to be very pleased with Donald J Trump and his Presidency.

    In all this spin be on the look out for words or phrases in bold red.


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    Yes, please be on the lookout for Trump's latest Make America Great Again action, the new H1B visa regulations to come out sometime this month.
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    I forgot another feature, right now, there are 65,000 H1B's for workers not educated in the US and another 20,000 for American Educated foreign workers, two separate subsets of the H1B program with different rules. Trump is moving the 20,000 American Educated foreign workers to the 65,000, making it 85,000 total in one program all functioning under the same rules which eliminates the OPT. It's a major rewrite of the program with many new features to make it better and more fair to American Workers and with the new definition more focused on actual needs and voids where we have real shortages and eliminate to the degree possible the lower wages and lack of benefits that undercuts American Workers much sooner with the opportunity to fast track green card applications while using up a lot of green cards for these capable self-sustaining workers without the massive immigration from chain migration.

    Like I said, Trump has been a very Busy Bee fixing this program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    LOL!! Is that what you think it is? The truth about Trump's long planned changes to the H1B, other types of visas and Green Card programs that were in his campaign materials, in the Goodlatte and Grassley bills, is in his new regulations because the Goodlatte and Grassley bills failed to pass is .... spinning? Wow.

    Next time study up on your candidate. Trump wants to get rid of the H1B program and most other stupid visas and convert the Green Card program to a merit-based immigration system that brings these qualified, skilled, capable, self-sufficient people into the United States to fill certain needs and voids at American wages subject to all American labor laws without tax benefits, without exceptions to labor laws, without deflated wages, without welfare, without subsidy, without chain migration, and with dramatic reductions in the total numbers.

    He was very clear about all of that if you knew or understood what he was talking about.

    Promises Made. Promises Kept.

    GOP front-runner Donald Trump said the H-1B hurts American-born workers and that he would end it outright.

    “I know the H-1B very well. … We shouldn’t have it; it’s very, very bad for workers,” said Trump
    Promise made. Promise not kept!

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    Where is the quote that he would end it outright? Giving an opinion of a bad program that he thinks we shouldn't have is not a promise to "end it outright". Trump has enforced H1B legal provisions to stop the fraud and abuse of the program that would result in American workers being replaced by foreign workers on H1B visas. He did that over a year ago through the US Department of Labor. Since then he's been working on numerous regulatory changes to the H1B program that will make it a good program that benefits our country while still protecting our workers.

    Again, the new regulations should be coming out on the Federal Register later this month.
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    H1B visa: Over 21,000 Indians overstayed visas in US last year ...

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    Aug 8, 2018 - In the year 2017, more than 21,000 Indians who were supposed to leave the US at the end of their permissible limits overstayed their visas, ...

    Over 21,000 Indians overstayed visas in US last year: Report


    The Department of Homeland Security in its latest annual report released today said that in 2017, more than 10.7 lakh Indians visited the United States.
    PTI | August 08, 2018, 09:45 IST



    In the year 2017, more than 21,000 Indians who were supposed to leave the US at the end of their permissible limits overstayed their visas, as per the latest official report. While the percentage of Indians overstaying and not leaving the US after the expiry of their visas is not very high compared to some other nations, but in sheer number India ranks among the top 10 countries whose citizens come to the US legally and continue to stay illegally.

    The Department of Homeland Security in its latest annual report released today said that in 2017, more than 10.7 lakh Indians visited the United States on the popular B-1, B-2 visas, which is issued to those who come to the US for business, visit or tourism purposes.

    Of these, 14,204 overstayed in the country. According to the report, 1,708 of these Indians left the US later after the expiry of their visas, while there is no record of 12,498 Indians leaving the country. This could be presumed that they continue to stay in the US as an illegal immigrant.

    Comparatively in 2016, a little over 10 lakh Indians visited the US on B-1, B-2 visas. As many as 17,763 overstayed in the US. Of these 2,040 left the US sometime after the expiry of their visas, while 15,723 continued to stay illegally, as per the official DHS figures.

    In 2017, the report said, 127,435 Indian students and research scholars came to the US on F, J and M visa categories. Of these 4,400 Indians overstayed in the country. Figures indicated that 1,567 left the US later on, while 2,833 Indians are still in the US.

    Among other categories of non-immigrants, more than 4.5 lakh Indians were expected to leave the United States in 2017, of which 9,568 of them overstayed their visas. Among them, 2,956 left the US after the expiry of their visa term, while 6,612 are suspected to be illegally staying in the country.

    In its 2017 Entry/Exit Overstay Report, the DHS said there were 52,656,022 in-scope nonimmigrant admissions to the US through air or sea port of entries (POEs) with expected departures occurring in the fiscal 2017; the in-scope admissions represent the vast majority of all air and sea nonimmigrant admissions. Of this number, the DHS calculated a total overstay rate of 1.33 per cent, or 701,900 overstay events. For India it was 1.32 per cent.

    The report also breaks down the overstay rates further to provide a better picture of those who remain in the US beyond their period of admission and for whom there is no identifiable evidence of a departure, an extension of period of admission, or transition to another immigration status.

    At the end of fiscal 2017, there were 606,926 suspected in-country overstays. The overall suspected in-country overstay rate was 1.15 per cent of the expected departures, the DHS said.

    It was 1.16 per cent for India, which is a non-visa waiver program (VWP) country. For non-VWP countries, the FY 2017 suspected in-country overstay rate is 1.91 per cent of the 14,659,249 expected departures.

    For nonimmigrants who entered on a student or exchange visitor visa (F, M, or J visa), the DHS has determined there were 1,662,369 students and exchange visitors scheduled to complete their program in the United States. However, 4.15 per cent stayed beyond the authorized window for departure at the end of their program. For India, the rate was 3.4 per cent, less than the national average.

    https://tech.economictimes.indiatime...eport/65317490
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