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    OOps! Sorry! I thought I had read he was, and Googled "Hunter CFR". I shoudln't stay up so late, it seems!
    Why are you so stuck on the CFR thing?
    Ron Paul best buddy Chuck Hagel is as worst as they get: CFR,GLobist,OpenBorders, YEs on Amnesty
    Why would Ron Paul vote for him? no sense at all

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    Ron Paul will be on CNN's Situation Room today (27 Dec.) at 4:15 pm.Thought both sides might like to watch.

    Also for those in Fl. The Ron Paul Blimp is scheduled (weather permiting) to be in Jacksonville Fri. evening Dec 28th and there is a rally planned at The Jacksonville Landing where the Blimp is scheduled to be at 4 pm.
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    The assasination of Pakistan's former Prime Mininster Bhutto by a suicide bomber today proves that Ron Paul's policy of "ignore them unless they come on our soil" will NOT work. And, he doesn't even want to put up a fence to prevent them from coming on our soil.

    Now, the entire region there is of GREAT concern as Pakistan became one of the most Westernized, Democratic countries in the Middle East under her leadership. Now it could break out into civil war---as the Muslim extremists try to take it over. Also, Pakistan has nukes which could end up in the hands of terrorists!!

    This is the MAIN reason that Tancredo said that he could not support Ron Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPatriot
    Ron Paul will be on CNN's Situation Room today (27 Dec.) at 4:15 pm.Thought both sides might like to watch.

    Also for those in Fl. The Ron Paul Blimp is scheduled (weather permiting) to be in Jacksonville Fri. evening Dec 28th and there is a rally planned at The Jacksonville Landing where the Blimp is scheduled to be at 4 pm.
    Thanks for letting us know "USPatriot" It is important information for anyone who really cares to see what the man has to say or maybe learn a few facts. Being informed leads you to intelligant decisions.

    I just hope Wolf lets him have time to answer questions...I hate it when they get cut off!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bren4824
    The assasination of Pakistan's former Prime Mininster Bhutto by a suicide bomber today proves that Ron Paul's policy of "ignore them unless they come on our soil" will NOT work. And, he doesn't even want to put up a fence to prevent them from coming on our soil.

    Now, the entire region there is of GREAT concern as Pakistan became one of the most Westernized, Democratic countries in the Middle East under her leadership. Not it could break out into civil war---as the Muslim extremists try to take it over. Also, Pakistan has nukes which could end up in the hands of terrorists!!

    This is the MAIN reason that Tancredo said that he could not support Ron Paul.
    The assassination of Bhutto is a tragedy - but it doesnt negate Ron Paul's foreign policy at all - we have been interfering in Pakistan a lot under Bush - supporting the military dictatorship of Mushraeff (sp)! And even though we've now given Pakistan billions, helping support this dictatorship, they still have regions of the country under terrorist control!

    So we've spend lots of money supporting a country that is under a dictatorship, it hasnt caught us Bin Laden, or closed down the terrorist organizations in Pakistan. Instead its made the citizens mad at the USA for interfering in their country - supporting a controlling, backward government - its because we haven't been following a policy of non-intervention, no entangling alliances that we are in this mess!

    Interfering more will only make things worse for the USA. We need to get out of the way, let Pakistan work out its disputes, stop supporting the current dictatorship, stop making enemies in a country that has nuclear weapons. We can encourage democracy, but we cant force our way around the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bren4824
    The assasination of Pakistan's former Prime Mininster Bhutto by a suicide bomber today proves that Ron Paul's policy of "ignore them unless they come on our soil" will NOT work. And, he doesn't even want to put up a fence to prevent them from coming on our soil.

    Now, the entire region there is of GREAT concern as Pakistan became one of the most Westernized, Democratic countries in the Middle East under her leadership. Not it could break out into civil war---as the Muslim extremists try to take it over. Also, Pakistan has nukes which could end up in the hands of terrorists!!

    This is the MAIN reason that Tancredo said that he could not support Ron Paul.
    Bren you are reeaally reaching here associating Dr. Paul with the mess in Pakistan.

    We have a war monger (imo) in the White House now and that did not stop what is happening in Pakistan.

    So stop with your attacks on Dr. Paul unless you have a ligitimate beef.This is becoming rediculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthwii
    Quote Originally Posted by Bren4824
    The assasination of Pakistan's former Prime Mininster Bhutto by a suicide bomber today proves that Ron Paul's policy of "ignore them unless they come on our soil" will NOT work. And, he doesn't even want to put up a fence to prevent them from coming on our soil.

    Now, the entire region there is of GREAT concern as Pakistan became one of the most Westernized, Democratic countries in the Middle East under her leadership. Not it could break out into civil war---as the Muslim extremists try to take it over. Also, Pakistan has nukes which could end up in the hands of terrorists!!

    This is the MAIN reason that Tancredo said that he could not support Ron Paul.
    The assassination of Bhutto is a tragedy - but it doesnt negate Ron Paul's foreign policy at all - we have been interfering in Pakistan a lot under Bush - supporting the military dictatorship of Mushraeff (sp)! And even though we've now given Pakistan billions, helping support this dictatorship, they still have regions of the country under terrorist control!

    So we've spend lots of money supporting a country that is under a dictatorship, it hasnt caught us Bin Laden, or closed down the terrorist organizations in Pakistan. Instead its made the citizens mad at the USA for interfering in their country - supporting a controlling, backward government - its because we haven't been following a policy of non-intervention, no entangling alliances that we are in this mess!

    Interfering more will only make things worse for the USA. We need to get out of the way, let Pakistan work out its disputes, stop supporting the current dictatorship, stop making enemies in a country that has nuclear weapons. We can encourage democracy, but we cant force our way around the world.
    Due to Bhutto---Pakistan was one of the most Westernized, Democratic countries in the entire region----that could very easily end up in civil war now.

    And, your da*n straight that the US will end up interfering----as Pakistan has nukes that could very easily end up in the hands of terrorists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPatriot
    Quote Originally Posted by Bren4824
    The assasination of Pakistan's former Prime Mininster Bhutto by a suicide bomber today proves that Ron Paul's policy of "ignore them unless they come on our soil" will NOT work. And, he doesn't even want to put up a fence to prevent them from coming on our soil.

    Now, the entire region there is of GREAT concern as Pakistan became one of the most Westernized, Democratic countries in the Middle East under her leadership. Not it could break out into civil war---as the Muslim extremists try to take it over. Also, Pakistan has nukes which could end up in the hands of terrorists!!

    This is the MAIN reason that Tancredo said that he could not support Ron Paul.
    Bren you are reeaally reaching here associating Dr. Paul with the mess in Pakistan.

    We have a war monger (imo) in the White House now and that did not stop what is happening in Pakistan.

    So stop with your attacks on Dr. Paul unless you have a ligitimate beef.This is becoming rediculous.
    Some of you are the ones who are ridiculous. You completely ignore the "unrealistic" policies/plans of Ron Paul.

    Plus, you lie!! I never said that Ron Paul was the blame for what happened in Pakistan. I said the situation in Pakistan proves that Ron Paul's policies/plans regarding international affairs, will NOT work---and will put the US and US citizens in danger.

    This is one of the MAIN reasons that Tom Tancredo said that he could never support Ron Paul.
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    Bren tell me what you know about Bhutto ? What kind of leader was she ?

    I do not condone her assasination in anyway.It is a sad day when this type of incident occurs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPatriot
    Bren tell me what you know about Bhutto ? What kind of leader was she ?

    I do not condone her assasination in anyway.It is a sad day when this type of incident occurs.
    She was very educated, modern, Westernized, and Democratic. She was LOVED by the people of Pakistan. She was the reason that citizens of Pakistan fought against letting the Muslim terrorists take over----as they knew how much they liked life in Pakistan----as oppossed to seeing how other citizens in neighboring countries were FORCED to live.

    Pakistan has nukes, and so does its neighbor India.

    There is a VERY strong potential for civil war in Pakistan----and the Muslim terrorists are going to now try even HARDER to take over Pakistan----as they have been attempting to do for a long time.
    "We call things racism just to get attention. We reduce complicated problems to racism, not because it is racism, but because it works." --- Alfredo Gutierrez, political consultant.

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