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    Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

    Please let us talk - no flames, please!

    The evidence against Barack Obama II's natural born citizenship is probably (almost) all true. But, so what?

    "What is truth?" - Pontius Pilate, condemning Jesus to be crucified.

    On Dec. 1, the U.S. Supreme Court is to decide whether to hear Phil Berg's case. Only one or two percent of appeals to SCOTUS are heard, many because of a constitutional question. The question here is about who, if anyone, is empowered to investigate and enforce the qualification clause in Article II, Section I.

    "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
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    Restraint upon non-commercial air traffic during the Chicago NATO conference on May 19-21:
    here is a template for cross-pollination of U.S. sovereignty and Constitutional eligibility issues.

    No-Fly Zone To Be Enforced By Shoot-To-Kill Order During NATO Summit


    Restraint...I guess shoot to kill order is restraint...what would be non restraint then ????

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    CBS 2 Chicago SENSATIONALIZED a common FAA No-Fly advisory by using MISLEADING and INFLAMMATORY language to arouse the masses against a NATO security conference that térròrísts consider a high-value target? Whoda thunkit?

    Quote Originally Posted by the FAA
    The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) will be issuing a Temporary Flight Restriction (TFR) in support of the 25th NATO Summit taking place in Chicago, IL. The restrictions are designed to provide a safe and secure environment for the event.

    Pursuant to 49 USC 40103(b), the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) classifies the airspace defined in this advisory and the published NOTAM as 'National Defense Airspace'. Pilots who do not adhere to the following procedures may be intercepted, detained and interviewed by law enforcement/security personnel. Any of the following additional actions may also be taken against a pilot who does not comply with the requirements or any special instructions or procedures announced in this NOTAM:
    A) The FAA may take administrative action, including imposing civil penalties and the suspension or revocation of airmen certificates; or
    B) The United States Government may pursue criminal charges, including charges under Title 49 of the United States Code, Section 46307; or
    C) The United States Government may use deadly force against the airborne aircraft, if it is determined that the aircraft poses an imminent security threat.

    Be advised that noncompliance with the published NOTAM may result in the use of force.
    The following links were functional but have been removed. Obviously, the police helicopter site doesn't like having pictures of police helicopters displayed to people they don't know and to whom they can't trace IPs.

    "Force" as mentioned here would probably look like this:

    Huey police helicopter

    or this:

    lightweight police helicopter

    or this:

    Bell R-44 police helicopter

    "Force" would usually mean
    Chicago P.D. Police Helicopter 1, Police Helicopter 2, or both, escorts the trespasser out of the no-fly area. Ask a pilot friend about FAA No-Fly advisories or TFR's. She or he may call them "not unusual," "part of doing business in the air," "a fact of life in flight," or even "commonplace".

    The problem is Is|amist
    térròrísm, not police-state fascism in the effort to prevent it.
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    It has often been suggested that the Dept. of Justice, a Federal or State Judge, an Inspector General, a U.S. Attorney, or (gasp!) a County Sheriff arrest, indict, convict, and incarcerate AG Eric Holder in order to facilitate bringing the usurper to justice for fraud, sedition, t____n, obstruction of justice, and his countless other felonies. Isolating AG Holder from his minions will reduce somewhat the fear and intimidation experienced by agents of justice such as U.S. District Judge Clay Land of Columbus, Ga., and U.S. District Judge David O. Carter (USMC-ret.), of Santa Ana, Calif..


    Quote Originally Posted by the NRA-ILA
    The NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION
    INSTITUTE for LEGISLATIVE ACTION

    U.S. House Oversight Committee Makes Case for
    Contempt of Congress in "Fast and Furious" Investigation

    Posted on May 4, 2012


    Back in February, U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) promised to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress if Holder didn't hand over Justice Department documents that had been subpoenaed as part of an ongoing investigation into the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives' now-infamous "Operation Fast and Furious" gun-walking operation.

    This week, Rep. Issa--chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee--made good on the pledge and sent out a draft Contempt Order against Holder to members of the committee. The document makes a case for holding the beleaguered U.S. Attorney General in contempt of Congress due to his ongoing refusal to cooperate with the investigation. While not actually citing Holder with contempt, the document does establish grounds for the charge.

    According to a release by the committee
    [quoted below this article], the documents explain what happened in "Fast and Furious," the hardships faced by the family of murdered Border Patrol agent Brian Terry in getting truthful answers about his death, how whistle-blowers have faced retaliation for their actions, and the violent crime and narco-terrorism in Mexico that "Fast and Furious" has enabled.

    "This briefing paper and draft contempt report explains the case, to both Members of the Committee and the American people, for holding Attorney General Holder in contempt of Congress," said Issa. "In describing the results of the Justice Department's refusal to cooperate--including the hardships the family of a fallen Border Patrol agent have faced in seeking the truth, and retaliation against agents who blew the whistle on gunwalking--this briefing paper provides the facts, on which decisions will be made."

    A Newsmax article reports that U.S. Rep. Blake Farenthold (R-Tex.), also a member of the committee, has asserted that Holder's Justice Department has been given every possible opportunity to cooperate with House and Senate probes, but has chosen not to.

    "We are dealing with a specific instance here of the Department of Justice not turning over thousands of pages of documents relating to the death of a border patrol agent and allowing over 2,000 guns to go from the United States into Mexico in violation of both United States and Mexican law. And nobody is willing, in the Justice Department, to work with us," Farenthold said.

    "They go after anybody who is a whistleblower. They stonewall at every turn. It is absolutely unacceptable behavior from one branch of government to the other."

    NRA-ILA has already reported on how the Obama Administration has endangered lives to justify gun control in the case of "Fast and Furious." The Newsmax article goes on to report that Farenthold, too, believes "Fast and Furious" could have been a set‑up to increase gun control laws. "There are a couple of options as I see it. One: there are some incompetent folks there. The other, more scary, one for me is 'was there any sort of agenda,' Farenthold said."

    "One of the results of Operation Fast and Furious was a change in regulatory schemes, that without an Act of Congress, the BATFE now requires gun dealers in border states to file reports on multiple sales of certain types of weapons. So if I were to go out and buy my wife and two daughters a long gun, I would be reported as a possible straw buyer. We are taking away people's Second Amendment rights by executive fiat. Was this the plan all along? That is something the American people need to know."

    It is clear that the established policy of the Obama Justice Department and Attorney General Holder is to deny Congress and the American people the truth about “Fast and Furious.” Hopefully, Rep Issa's continued efforts to seek the truth will yield results.

    NRA-ILA | U.S. House Oversight Committee Makes Case for Contempt of Congress in "Fast and Furious" Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by the U.S. House Committee on Oversight
    Oversight Committee Outlines Case for Contempt over Fast and Furious

    May 3, 2012

    WASHINGTON, D.C. – House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) has distributed a staff briefing paper and draft of the contempt of Congress resolution against Attorney General Eric Holder to Members of the Oversight Committee. The briefing paper explains what happened in Operation Fast and Furious, the hardships faced by the family of fallen Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in getting truthful answers about his death, how agents who blew the whistle on the reckless operation have faced retaliation, and the carnage in Mexico that Fast and Furious has helped fuel.

    “This briefing paper and draft contempt report explains the case, to both Members of the Committee and the American people, for holding Attorney General Holder in contempt of Congress,” said Issa. “In describing the results of the Justice Department’s refusal to cooperate – including the hardships the family of a fallen Border Patrol agent have faced in seeking the truth, and retaliation against agents who blew the whistle on gunwalking – this briefing paper provides the facts, on which decisions will be made.”

    Highlights of the briefing paper include:

    On information sharing failures (p.6):
    “When [firearms trafficking syndicate ringleader] Celis-Acosta informed ATF of the names of the two cartel contacts for whom he had been working, agents quickly came to learn that these two U.S.-based cartel contacts were already known to the Department of Justice … In exchange for one associate’s guilty plea to a minor charge of “Alien in Possession of a Firearm,” both of these cartel associates became FBI informants and were considered essentially unindictable well before Operation Fast and Furious concluded. One ATF official would later say that the discovery that the primary targets of their investigation were not indictable was a “major disappointment.” Adding to the information-sharing failure, DEA had actually provided Celis-Acosta’s cartel connection to ATF in December 2009 in an effort to ensure that ATF’s efforts in Operation Fast and Furious were not duplicative.”

    On the Justice Department’s Failure to Cooperate (p.9):

    “When the Committee issued a subpoena to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder on October 12, 2011, for Justice Department documents, the Committee specified 22 categories of documents it required the Department to produce. Department representatives specifically confirmed their understanding of each category. To date, the Department has not produced any responsive documents for 12 of the 22 categories. The Department has not completely fulfilled any of the 10 categories for which documents have been produced. For over a year, the Department has issued false denials, given answers intended to misdirect investigators, sought to intimidate witnesses, unlawfully withheld subpoenaed documents, and waited to be confronted with indisputable evidence before acknowledging uncomfortable facts.”

    On the struggle of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s family to get the truth (p. 11):

    “While the Justice Department’s admissions have largely come as a result of being confronted with indisputable facts, the painfully slow process of getting the truth has been a continuing frustration for the Terry family. They still do not have the all the facts about the circumstances surrounding Brian Terry’s murder …. As Brian’s sister said of his family’s desire to know the full truth, ‘Brian was about making a difference and justice. And I just feel that this country owes it to him, because he spent his whole life fighting for this country some way or another.’”

    On Retaliation Faced by Agents who blew the whistle (p.13):

    “Agent Alt notified his superiors about his impending testimony. The next day, ATF Internal Affairs notified Alt that they wanted to talk with him about another matter. On May 5, 2011, Agent Alt met with ATF internal affairs investigators about allegations that Alt downloaded two prohibited applications to his government-issued phone. The total cost of these applications was eight dollars …. Alt was prevented from transferring offices and his eligibility for promotions and pay raises barred during the pendency of the investigation – all supposedly over eight dollars in phone applications.”

    On Fast and Furious fueling violence in Mexico (p. 15):

    “In October 2010, cartel members kidnapped Mario Gonzalez Rodriguez, the brother of the Attorney General for the Mexican state of Chihuahua, where Juarez is located. The cartel posted a video of the kidnapped Rodriguez online, in which he alleged, under duress, that his sister had ordered killings at the behest of the Juarez cartel. The video went viral and became a major news story in Mexico. Two weeks later, Mexican authorities found Rodriguez’s body in a shallow grave. In a subsequent shootout with cartel members responsible for the murder, police arrested eight and recovered sixteen weapons. Two of these weapons traced back to Operation Fast and Furious. Although the Department of Justice learned that these weapons traced back to Fast and Furious almost immediately, no one informed the Mexican government. Not until congressional investigators were on the verge of learning the truth about the connection did an ATF agent in Mexico finally tell the Mexican Attorney General in June 2011 – seven months after Rodriguez’s murder.”

    On allegations of intentional wrongdoing by Justice officials (p. 17):

    “Perhaps the most damning assessments of the Department’s handling of the fallout from Operation Fast and Furious have come from two Justice Department officials. Kenneth Melson, the former Acting AFT Director during the pendency of Fast and Furious, told Congress that, “it appears thoroughly to us that the department is really trying to figure out a way to push the information away from their political appointees at the department.” Patrick Cunningham, who had been tasked by the Justice Department with investigating ATF whistleblower allegations of gunwalking, would later invoke his Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination in refusing to answer questions about his work.”

    Click here for a copy of the staff briefing paper distributed to committee members and the draft contempt report

    http://oversight.house.gov/release/o...t-and-furious/
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    We recently discussed the counterfeit Barack Obama II Selective Service registration form.

    Two and a half years ago, WorldNetDaily held a contrarian position on this forged document.


    Quote Originally Posted by WorldNetDaily
    ANALYSTS: FUZZY OBAMA DRAFT DOC DOESN'T PROVE FORGERY

    Postal mark, date, ID number among points questioned

    Published: 11/07/2009 at 12:50 AM

    There have been dozens of legal challenges to President Barack Obama’s status as a “natural born citizen” – as required by Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, which states, “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”

    And WND has reported that among the documentation not yet available for Obama’s history is a long-form original birth certificate, kindergarten records, Punahou school and Occidental College records, Columbia University records and thesis, Harvard Law School documents, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

    It is possible never before has an American president taken so many pains to hide so much of his background – to the point of hiring lawyers to race around the nation fighting anyone who tries to access his life’s records.


    But it appears the concerns some doubters have expressed over Obama’s Selective Service registration form may not be fully justified.


    The charges include a claim the form signed by Obama was created in 1990, not 1980; the postal date stamp had incorrect information on it, and there were a couple of other discrepancies.


    Image of Selective Service document

    The allegations, while significant, may have become lost in light of the federal lawsuits being presented to the U.S. Supreme Court challenging Obama’s presidency and other issues that developed.


    But several experts say there is little reason for alarm over this document.


    Postal abbreviation


    One allegation involved the postal date stamp used on Obama’s Selective Service form. It’s been reported the form has the abbreviation “USPO” for United States Postal Office, even though when Obama’s form was completed in 1980 the agency was using the abbreviation “USPS” because of a change to the name “United States Postal Service” several years earlier.


    The National Postal Museum directed inquiries to Dick Sine, one of the top postal historians in the country who wrote a stamp column for the New York Times and authored “Stamp Collecting for Dummies.” He reported that it is entirely possible that a clerk was using an outdated stamp.


    “Personally, my general rule of thumb is, ‘If a clerk might have an outdated device still lingering around someplace with research (especially at a smaller PO) sooner or later it is going to show up on some piece of mail it is not supposed to,” Sine responded via e-mail.


    Another expert contacted agreed with Sine, “I know that there were still some post offices in Texas using older (double circular) date stamps with the USPO instead of USPS in the time frame you mentioned. There was no requirement that I am aware of for a postmaster to replace his date stamp, and many did not.”


    Indeed, the experts confirmed some locations were using “USPO” stamps as late as 2000, 20 years after a Hawaiian post office stamped Obama’s registration form with a “USPO” stamp.


    Document locator number


    Another allegation suggesting the forged document theory is that the Document Locator Number (DLN) at the top right of the registration form – 0897080632 – means the form was produced in 2008 and not in 1980, the year Obama signed it. This is based on the fact the first two digits are “08.”


    However, Will Ebel, the former director of the Selective Service under Ronald Reagan, and Dick Flahavan, the current associate director of the Selective Service who has served the government since the Reagan years, agreed that the number was not a decider.


    “Registration forms created prior to the establishment of the Data Management Center had a DLN configuration different than the current format. The first three characters (089) of the DLN for this form designate that this form was key entered by one of the keying centers of the Internal Revenue Service,” they concluded.


    The experts reported the “089″ number, instead of identifying a date, indicated where the form was keyed in, becoming part of a sequential system only years later.


    10 digits


    Another claim is based on the 10 digits of Obama’s form, while others have 11.


    The government reports at the signing by Obama in 1980, Document Locator Numbers were only 10 digits, an identifier that later was changed by the Selective Service to be 11 to help track them.


    “The field was later expanded to 11 digits to accommodate the decade change in 1990 and subsequent decades to avoid duplication of some Document Locator Numbers,” Flahavan said.


    Legibility


    Another claim is that the form signed by Obama has a date reference that could indicate it was signed Feb. ’90, not Feb. ’80, but Flahavan reports while the paper version of Obama’s form may be hard to read, the microfilm image of the document clearly shows the date of the form as Feb. ’80.


    The date


    The claims that Obama’s signature is dated a day after the postal stamp also remains inconclusive for analysts who reviewed it, who pointed out a clerk can forget to change a stamp, or a person can mistake the day when signing.


    Flahavan also reports questions about a possible conflict between Obama’s signing date in Hawaii and his attendance at Occidental College is not verifiable. He said the records seem to indicate Obama signed on July 30, 1980, four weeks before classes started at Occidental, and the Sept. 4 date on a computer printout simply is when the record was added to the database.


    Continued at Analysts: Fuzzy Obama draft doc doesn’t prove forgery.

    Most of those hypothetical postulations coulda, mighta, oughta, shoulda been possible, although the probability of all of them occurring on the same document tends toward the probability of lightning striking the same tree twice . . . at the same time.

    But one thing is absolutely certain. The "8" in the date stamp is upside down or misorientated by 180°: the vertical ellipse is on top and the smaller circle is below it.

    If the date was stamped in 2008, after "1980" stamp blocks had been removed from circulation, the only way to even partially fake a 1980 stamp would have been to cut a "2008" stamp block in half and rotate the "08" 180°. Had the date actually been stamped in 1980, the stamped date would have read "1980", not "80" with the "19" chopped off, and certainly not "08" with the "20" chopped off, then rotated 180° - which is the two-digit year stamped on the fraudulent Barack Obama II Selective Service registration form.

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    Obama's Social Security Scandal Hits Big Time
    Friday, May 11, 2012 7:49


    Rush Limbaugh

    Limbaugh tends to avoid the topic of Obama’s citizenship, but this week he talked about the president’s hazy personal history, including Obama’s “potentially criminal use of a Connecticut-based Social Security number” (FREE audio).

    “Does this pass the smell test?” – Limbaugh also had fun with a news report claiming that “dinosaur farts and burps” contributed to global warming.

    A climate change skeptic, Rush called the thesis “one of the most stupid assertions I have in encountered in 25-plus years of deep study of the environmentalist-wacko movement” (FREE audio).

    Michael Savage

    Savage was furious after Secretary of State Hillary Clinton praised Islam while addressing a Muslim audience in Bangladesh.

    “Why does this administration find it necessary,” Savage wondered, “to bend over backwards and tell us a big lie about the wonders of Islam?”

    America, he added, is now a “land where our worst enemies are praised but our allies are stiffed.”

    Savage isn’t very impressed by the Republicans, either. He informed listeners that “a very highly placed individual who really knows the ins and outs of both parties … told me the Republicans really want to lose this election.”

    Why? Because then “the Republicans can pretend to be against ‘big government’ while they dip their beaks into the public treasury like never before” (FREE audio).

    Aaron Klein

    Only Aaron Klein would interview a senior leader of al-Qaida in one segment and comedy legend Jackie Mason the next!

    Rounding out Klein’s program this week: an exclusive interview with John Bolton. The Cold War may be over, but Bolton maintains that Russia still poses a threat to the United States.

    Mark Levin

    The results of the Wisconsin and West Virginia elections prove that “the Tea Party is alive and strong” and “the Reagan Democrats are back,” declared Mark Levin.

    It’s no coincidence, Levin added, that Obama suddenly came out in support of gay “marriage” the day after these votes were cast. The president rightly senses that he and the Democrats need to rally their progressive base (FREE audio).

    Levin also provided listeners with a history lesson, explaining precisely how the media has defended and protected corrupt Democrats, going back as far as JFK and LBJ, all the way up to the present day (FREE audio).

    Laura Ingraham

    Ingraham inadvertently angered some listeners this week, when she made fun of adults who line up to see comic book movies like “The Avengers” on opening weekends.

    “You’re not an Avenger,” she wrote on her Facebook page. “Now go cut the grass and take care of your kids.”

    Ironically, the angry, juvenile response to Ingraham’s offhand quip inadvertently proved her point about some people’s immaturity!

    Also this week: Ingraham stuck mostly to politics, chatting with Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., Haley Barbour and candidate Richard Mourdock, the day before his historic defeat of Indiana’s longtime senator Richard Lugar (FREE audio).

    Glenn Beck

    Glenn Beck may not be on television any longer, but he’s still on the radio, a medium he calls “the most powerful form of communication out there.”

    Beck is featured in the MediaBistroTV series “My First Big Break,” talking about his childhood fascination with radio and how he broke into the broadcasting business (FREE video).

    And now, from the left side of the dial …

    Progressives live in the past. Even in the year 2012, so-called “progressives” remain obsessed by their glory days of the 1960s and 1970s, when they wielded enormous political and cultural power.

    They see everything through this cracked rear view mirror, which may explain this bizarre screed by MSNBC radio host Mike Papantonio (FREE audio).

    No doubt leaving younger listeners scratching their heads, Papantonio tried to equate Mitt Romney with Barry Goldwater. The 1964 GOP presidential candidate was fatally smeared by LBJ’s notorious “Daisy” ad, which strongly suggested that Goldwater was a trigger happy warmonger.

    For better or worse, such fascinating footnotes are “ancient history” to many Americans (it doesn’t help that you’re using a highly visual TV commercial to make a point on the radio!).

    It’s revealing that the harder they try to sound “relevant,” the more old fashioned and out of touch so many leftists sound.


    Read more at WorldNetDaily News



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    On Feb.22nd, the Secretary of States office recieved MY COMPLAINT,
    to remove Barack Obama from the States Ballot. Hell, even made the front page of our Newspaper, the meeting of the Elections Board (7 members) was at 10 am Friday, May 11th...
    Well, thats is what I was told over the phone last monday ( the 7th). I ASKED the Staffer, is that Mnt.Time? Your time he said.
    Well, it was a phone conference, I called at 9:50, and recieved this message after waiting 5 minutes... "Your conference call has Ended"... I called back, recording said your conference has ended 10 MINUTES AGO!!!!!!
    Well, I figure it was a Democrat who called me and gave me the WRONG TIME! It was 10 am Central Time, 9 am Mountain.
    As Furious as I was, I bit my tongue and called the Sec. of State and explained the situation to him... He thought it was FUNNY!
    He told me my complaint had NO MERIT.

    So, my next move is to SUE the Dem. Party of America, State of S.Dakota, Nancy Pelosi and Shariff Williams (Notary), for Voter Fraud. Baracks Constitutionality on the 2008 Ballot.
    Statute of Limitations for Voter Fraud is 7 yrs... I'm sick of NOT HAVING A VOICE!!!!
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    Obama Impeachment Bill Goes Viral!
    Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:37

    Published on May 16, 2012 by TheAlexJonesChannel

    Alex speaks with Congressman Walter B. Jones, Jr. about H.CON.RES.107 -- a bill that deems the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution.
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    Feds Destroyed Evidence on Obama’s Draft Registration?

    Tuesday, May 8, 2012


    Changes in the wording of Selective Service System record-keeping requirements, made days after the opening of an investigation into the alleged forgery of President Barack Obama’s selective service registration form, raise serious questions about U.S. Government intentions.

    The new rules allow existing copies of documents that may be sought by investigators to be destroyed.

    The Selective Service System’s new privacy rules were published in the Federal Register on Tuesday, September 20, 2011, four days after the September 16 announcement by World Net Daily that the Maricopa County (Arizona) Sheriff’s Office “Cold Case Posse” was opening an inquiry with full subpoena power into alleged forgery of several documents concerning Obama’s birth and draft registration.

    The new rules, which constitute the first update to Selective Service System privacy regulations in eleven years, were published under the title, “Privacy Act of 1974; Publication of Notice of Systems of Records.”

    Ongoing controversy surrounding allegations that some of Obama’s personal identification documents and records, including his Selective Service draft registration form, are forgeries came into sharp focus seven months ago. The “Cold Case Posse,” under the leadership of Sheriff Joseph M. Arpaio, opened an inquiry in response to those allegations.


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    Feds Destroyed Evidence on Obama’s Draft Registration? – Patriot Update
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    This looks like a showdown between the federal government and the states, state governments, local governments, and the rest of us beyond the Beltway. But the rogue, out-of-control federal government is counting on some states saying, "That's not my problem," and others accepting a Cornhusker Kickback, so that it can divide and conquer, marginalize and demonize, states which refuse to surrender the Constitution to tyrants.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Jones at communities.washingtontimes.com
    Brittany H. at NARA's National Personnel Records Center customer service department in St. Louis on Monday, May 7, [2012,] directed requests for selective service records for anyone born after 1960 to the Selective Service System in Arlington, Virginia.

    Asked if NARA maintains any selective service records for anyone born after 1960 in long-term storage at any other NARA Federal Record Centers, she stated that "those records are not archived. The only long-term storage is at Selective Service."

    ROUTINE USES OF RECORDS MAINTAINED IN THE SYSTEM,
    INCLUDING CATEGORIES OF USERS AND THE PURPOSES OF SUCH USES:

    September 21, 2000 Selective Service System Privacy Rules: State and local government agencies—to provide information which may constitute evidence of a violation of State or local law, for law enforcement purposes. WAS CHANGED TO: September 20, 2011 Selective Service System Privacy Rules: State and Local Governments—To provide data that may constitute evidence and facilitate the enforcement of state and local law.

    If investigators with the Cold Case Posse were to argue that the Selective Service System was required to be responsive to a records request for the purpose of the Maricopa’s County Sheriff’s Office investigation or enforcement of any violation of federal law, such as mail fraud, wire fraud, identity theft, or violations of the Military Selective Service Act, the 2000 privacy rules might have permitted such a records release, under the four-word clause “for law enforcement purposes”.
    [BUT the 2000 rules also restricted disclosure to "
    evidence of a violation of State or local law."]

    The 2011 updated rules, however, appear to have narrowed the legal requirements under which the Selective Service System must release records to local and state law enforcement agencies engaged in “the enforcement of state and local law”.


    The changes could be challenging to any local or state law enforcement agencies, including the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office, seeking to obtain a selective service card as evidence in the investigation of federal crimes.

    Lawyers seeking to prevent Obama’s registration records from being released again by the Selective Service System could conceivably argue that enforcement of federal law by a state or local agency is not a qualifying reason. Any possible legal ambiguity found in the 2000 rules appears to have been eliminated in the 2011 update, a preliminary analysis by Communities @WashingtonTimes.com has concluded.

    Both the 2000 and 2011 versions of the Selective Service System’s privacy rules allow the FBI to request records when investigating possible violations of the Military Selective Service Act.

    The question of President Obama's draft card: Has evidence been destroyed? | Washington Times Communities
    The cessation of NARA archiving of Selective Service records issued in or after 1960, making it the exclusive purview of the Selective Service System (in Chicago, I presume?), is indeed a treacherous action by the Executive Branch of the Federal government. The Selective Service System in Arlington, Virginia, may be in possession of all Selective Service registration form original documents (doubtful). Records of the Selective Service System State Headquarters for Hawaii is in San Francisco, and HQ for Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin is in Chicago, within reach of the minions of the Chicago Machine. If SSS Chicago is now the only storage location for Mr. Obama's fraudulent Selective Service registration form, then it no longer exists in original document form.

    The public rationale for the NARA contraction in storage services is to reduce expenses for duplicate services, but off-site archived storage has long been considered a justifiable expense for data security and recovery. That leaves Mr. Obama's registration of July 29, 1980, as the potentially εxplosivε record, and Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Sep. 16th announcement of his Cold Case Posse Investigation as the bµrning fµse, leading up to the rules change on Sep. 20th. Coincidence does not prove or indicate causation. But the fishy smell still lingers.

    As for the wording of the 2000 privacy rules:

    "To provide information which may constitute evidence of a violation of State or local law, for law enforcement purposes," changed on Sept. 20, 2011, to

    "To provide data that may constitute evidence and facilitate the enforcement of state and local law,"

    what's the difference?
    Last edited by MinutemanCDC_SC; 05-13-2012 at 01:06 PM.
    One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.

    Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
    tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.

    The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!

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