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    Democrat controlled NYS intent on rigging 2024 election with no-excuse mail-in voting

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    Hochul greenlights NY's mail-in voting law. GOP sues right away to undo it

    From the article:


    "Republicans argue the state constitution requires voters to cast ballots in person unless they get an absentee ballot, which they can only do for certain reasons, such as illness or being away from home for an election. Mail-in voting skirts those constraints, they say.

    In addition, GOP opponents claim the practice will facilitate fraudulent voting, and point out that New York voters defeated a constitutional amendment in 2021 that would have allowed absentee voting for any reason."
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    The scary truth about allowing no-excuse mail-in voting in one state is, when acts of corruption infect an electoral process in one jurisdiction “they transcend mere local concern and extend a contaminating influence into the national domain.” Justice DOUGLAS in United States v. Classic (1941)”.

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    JWK

    The Democrat Party Leadership is not content with having turned NYC into a rat, garbage and crime infested crap hole. It has now saw fit to include in its infestation tens of thousands of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled, and criminal, illegal entrant foreign nationals.

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    Most countries have banned no-excuse mail-in voting because of fraud

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    Why is the Democrat Party Leadership so intent of switching to no-excuse mail-in voting when countless countries have banned it? SEE: Developed countries ‘ban’ mail-in voting, US would be ‘laughing stock’: Report

    Most developed countries, especially in Europe, ban mail-in voting to fight vast fraud and vote buying that had threatened the integrity of their elections, according to an exhaustive review of voting rules and histories in over 30 major nations.

    JWK


    There is no surer way to weaken, subdue and bring to its knees a prosperous and freedom loving country than by flooding it with deadly drugs, an inflated currency and the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled, and criminal populations of other countries.






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    election vote riggers reject necessary steps needed for legitimate election results.

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    See: 7 Ways the 2005 Carter-Baker Report Could Have Averted Problems With 2020 Election

    From the article:


    They called on states to increase voter ID requirements; to be leery of mail-in voting; to halt ballot harvesting; to maintain voter lists, in part to ensure dead people are promptly removed from them; to allow election observers to monitor ballot counting; and to make sure voting machines are working properly.
    But as we can now see, our suspected election "riggers" are almost violently intent on implementing no-excuse mail-in ballots, which the Carter-Baker bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform concluded in 2005 are “. . . the largest source of potential voter fraud”.

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    NY's Constitution does not allow for no-excuse mail-in voting.

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    The irrefutable fact is, Gov. Hochul has violated New York's Constitution which sets the rules for election integrity, and no-excuse mail in voting, which Hochul put her signature to, is not authorized under NY's Constitution.


    The Mail-Voting Law signed by Gov. Hochul violates Article II, § 2 of the New York State’s Constitution, which requires qualified voters when voting to do so in person unless they are specifically exempted as mentioned in the Constitution.

    The text of Article II, § 2 of the New York State’s Constitution reads as follows:

    Absentee Voting

    "The legislature may, by general law, provide a manner in which, and the time and place at which, qualified voters who, on the occurrence of any election, may be absent from the county of their residence or, if residents of the city of New York, from the city, and qualified voters who, on the occurrence of any election, may be unable to appear personally at the polling place because of illness or physical disability, may vote and for the return and canvass of their votes."

    The above provision of the Constitution was approved by the people as required under New York’s Constitution and requires voters to vote in person unless exempted as specified by the Constitution.

    In November 2021, a proposed constitutional amendment allowing for no-excuse absentee ballot voting was presented to the people for their approval, but it was overwhelmingly rejected by the people, 51.4% to 37.7% SOURCE.

    And here we are today, with NY’s Democrat authoritarian Leadership giving a finger to the State’s Constitution and to the people, and arbitrarily imposing its will upon the people in violation of the Constitution.

    This is the same crap that was pulled in PA in 2020 where no-excuse ballots were arbitrarily allowed by the State’s law makers, which violated specific restrictive provisions of PA’s constitution, which was then upheld by a tyrannical court which ignored the Constitution’s restrictive provisions, and pretended they did not exist saying:


    “We reiterate that our General Assembly is endowed with great legislative power, subject only to express restrictions in the Constitution. We find no restriction in our Constitution on the General Assembly’s ability to create universal mail-in voting.”


    Of course, they simply lied, as do all Communists and Authoritarians.

    Why have a written constitution, approved by the people, if those who it is meant to control are free to make it mean whatever they wish it to mean?

    JWK

    There is no surer way to weaken, subdue and bring to its knees a prosperous and freedom loving country than by flooding it with deadly drugs, an inflated currency and the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled, and criminal populations of other countries.

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    These people need to be behind bars!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    Gov. Hochul ought to be prosecuted for malfeasance, misfeasance and nonfeasance

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    These people need to be behind bars!

    I just found the COMPLAINT against Governor Hochul, and NY’s unconstitutional no-excuse mail-in voting law.


    After carefully studying the complaint, and the provided history of Article II, § 2 of the New York State Constitution, which requires qualified voters when voting to do so in person unless they are specifically exempted as mentioned in the Constitution, it becomes more than obvious that Hochul is intentionally attempting to subvert NY’s constitutional process in order to impose her personal rules for voting in NYS.


    The buck stops with Governor Hochul, and she certainly ought to be punished for signing into law the unconstitutional no-excuse mail-in voting law.

    Governor Hochul has engaged in a willful attempt to subvert the rule of law in New York State, especially that part of NYS' constitutional amendment process by which consent of the people must be obtained prior to folks in government exercising powers not granted.

    The scary fact is, the good people of NYS rejected a proposed amendment to allow no-excuse mail-in voting, and Hochul turns around and signs an unconstitutional law allowing the NYS Legislature to write rules for no-excuse mail-in voting. This is the very definition of tyranny, and Governor Hochul needs to be punished for her criminal act.

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    "The Constitution is the act of the people, speaking in their original character, and defining the permanent conditions of the social alliance; and there can be no doubt on the point with us, that every act of the legislative power contrary to the true intent and meaning of the Constitution, is absolutely null and void. ___ Chancellor James Kent, in his Commentaries on American Law , 1858.
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    Gov. Hochul ought to be prosecuted for malfeasance, misfeasance and nonfeasance

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    See: NY Dems’ latest bid to snub voters, flout the Constitution — and lock in power


    From the article:


    "So why didn’t the gov and her party-mates set out to amend the state Constitution first?


    Oh, right: They did, putting a proposal to do so on the ballot back in 2021 — which the public nixed solidly, 55%-45%.


    New Yorkers clearly stand behind the constitutional requirement to show up to vote, if you’re able to.


    And with good reason: Mail-in voting is more prone to fraud, for starters."



    The fact is, we were warned about mail-in voting being more prone to fraud by the Carter-Baker, bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform, which concluded in 2005 that “ . . . absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.”

    And that "potential" has been metastasizing as a cancerous disease in our election process ever since, and is a popular way to cheat the elderly in nursing homes out of their vote, e.g.:


    Macomb County nursing home worker charged with voter fraud – Macomb Daily


    Voter Fraud: Harvesting Granny - The American Spectator | USA News and Politics


    Texas nursing home worker charged with 134 counts of election fraud – HotAir


    Protect Elderly Votes Project Aims to Thwart 'Vote Harvesting' Fraud (dailysignal.com)



    7 Elections Reversed After Ballot Harvesting Scandals (dailysignal.com)



    Political insider explains voter fraud with mail-in ballots (nypost.com)


    Seems the above may explain why the Democrat Party Leadership in New York is so intent on forcing no-excuse mail-in voting upon the people of New York State, and without their consent.


    JWK




    The troubling truth about allowing no-excuse mail-in voting in one state is, when acts of corruption infect an electoral process in one jurisdiction “they transcend mere local concern and extend a contaminating influence into the national domain.” Justice DOUGLAS in United States v. Classic (1941)”.



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    N.Y.’s Tammany Hall tyrants resurrected. . . force no-excuse ballots upon the people

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    See: State ignores voters by pushing voting by mail . . . Voters decline opportunity, state says ‘we don’t care.’

    From the article:


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    In 2021, voters throughout New York considered a proposed amendment to the state constitution. It would remove the need for voters to state an acceptable designated excuse for an absentee ballot.

    We endorsed this idea and encouraged voters to support it. As long as election officials can maintain a system that roots out any fraudulently cast ballots, we believed voters should have this option.

    But Republicans argued against this measure, and they prevailed. Voters turned down the request to change the state constitution.

    So lawmakers decided to ignore the voters and pursue their own objectives.

    Leave it to the home of Tammany Hall, New York State, and its corrupt politicians, to tear up New York's Constitution, give the finger to New York's voters, and impose their will upon the people without the people's consent.

    The troubling truth about allowing no-excuse mail-in voting in one state is, when acts of corruption infect an electoral process in one jurisdiction “they transcend mere local concern and extend a contaminating influence into the national domain.” Justice DOUGLAS in United States v. Classic (1941)”.
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    JWK



    Why have a written constitution, approved by the people, if those who it is meant to control are free to make it mean whatever they wish it to mean?
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    Why did Gov. Hochul sign into law the "Early Mail Voter Act"?

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    Why would anyone who supports a fraud resistant system of voting be ok with New York's "Early Mail Voter Act",(no-excuse mail-in ballots),which violates NY's constitution (Article II, Section 2), was specifically rejected by the good people of NYS by a whopping 55%-45% when it was presented to them as a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, and allows ballots to be counted which cannot be confirmed that the one who filled out the ballot and sent it in, is the actual person whose name appears on the ballot?

    JWK

    The troubling truth about allowing no-excuse mail-in voting in one state is, when acts of corruption infect an electoral process in one jurisdiction “they transcend mere local concern and extend a contaminating influence into the national domain.” Justice DOUGLAS in United States v. Classic (1941)”.
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    Lawsuit against New York's "Early Mail Voter Act," explained and documented.

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    Those who contend New York's "Early Mail Voter Act" (No-Excuse Absentee Ballot Voting) is constitutional, alledge in their MOTION TO INTERVENE AS DEFENDANTS, that the Act is authorized under Article II, Section 7 of the New York Constitution, which they assert grants broad authority to prescribe the method of voting in New York.

    Article II, Section 7 of the New York Constitution reads in part:

    [Manner of voting; identification of voters]

    §7. “All elections by the citizens, except for such town officers as may by law be directed to be otherwise chosen, shall be by ballot, or by such other method as may be prescribed by law . . .”

    But the referenced broad authority, i.e., “as may be prescribed by law”, is expressly limited as stipulated in Article II, Section 2, of New York’s Constitution, which precedes Section 7.

    Article II, Section 2, of New York’s Constitution reads as follows, and is crystal clear:

    [Absentee voting]

    §2. "The legislature may, by general law, provide a manner in which, and the time and place at which, qualified voters who, on the occurrence of any election, may be absent from the county of their residence or, if residents of the city of New York, from the city, and qualified voters who, on the occurrence of any election, may be unable to appear personally at the polling place because of illness or physical disability, may vote and for the return and canvass of their votes."

    Section 7, being the disputed Section, does allow a method “as may be prescribed by law”, for qualified voters to vote who may be unable to appear personally at the polling place as stipulated in Section 2.

    But Section 7, does not, neither by its text nor legislative intent, allow for the adoption of legislation which broadens or expands the method “prescribed by law”, to qualified voters beyond those who are not able to appear personally at the polling place as stipulated in Article II, Section 2. And that is what the "Early Mail Voter Act" does, it creates “No-Excuse Absentee Ballot Voting".

    The bottom line is, the sequence of events leading to the current dispute which questions the authorized delegated legislative power under Article 2, Section 2, and Article II, Section 7 of the New York Constitution is sufficient in itself to conclude the "Early Mail Voter Act" is unconstitutional and is intended to defeat and by-pass New York’s constitutional amendment process, which requires consent of the governed to alter legislative powers granted to New York’s Legislature.

    For those interested in the sequence of events leading to the above described dispute, and why the "Early Mail Voter Act" is an attempt to defeat New York’s Constitution and its constitutionally authorized amendment process requiring consent of the governed, see PLAINTIFFS' MOTION FOR PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION page 7 “The Failed 2021 Mail-Voting Amendment”, and then decide for yourself if the "Early Mail Voter Act" is not a flagrant attempt to defeat the will of the people of New York who rejected “No-Excuse Absentee Ballot Voting" by a whopping 55%-45%.

    JWK


    Why have a written constitution, approved by the people, if those who it is meant to control are free to make it mean whatever they wish it to mean?
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