Fascism begins: Obama to "require" community servi

[millere]

This sounds like how a house painters son got started in germany.

Countries that turn into Social-Fascism hell holes always start out with 'voluntary' programs that turn into slavery: Lenin's Russia, Hitlers' Germany, Mao's China all started with "good intentions", calling the population to "volunteer" and tricking them with forced marches, farm work done at gun-point, etc. While volunteerism is a good thing, always remember that the rich thugs who run the government turn it into a "political indoctrination camp" and then into a death camp.

If there are any real need for 'government' volunteers it is for bank robbers like Henry Paulson who is grabbing our money to volunteer to open his bank account so that the taxpayers suckered into this scam might get some of their money back. Such men have no business asking for 'volunteers'.

[Gogo]

Fascism begins: Obama to "require" community service from all students.
http://www.change.gov/americaserves/ ^



"The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start."



LMAO .....not happening.

That's what they thought in Germany too. Remember the statement "we need a national security force as strong and as well funded as the military?"

Lenin's Russia, Hitlers' Germany, Mao's China all started with "good intentions",

Yes! Did you read Jonah Goldberg's book "Liberal Fascism"? He said this is exactly how it was proposed. It was stated "it is good for you" it's good for the society" It's good for the country."

[millere]

Fascism begins: Obama to "require" community service from all students.
http://www.change.gov/americaserves/ ^

He is going to be a thug and a Chavez. Thanks a lot to all the people that voted for a hand full of pie.

Government efforts to force "voluntary" behavior from High School students can have disastrous results as children of high school age seem to have a natural tendency towards coercive and thuggish behavior:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertain ... 7620080130

Fascism seduces students in powerful "Wave"
Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:43pm GMT

The Wave

By James Greenberg

PARK CITY, Utah (Hollywood Reporter) - Based on a real event from a California high school in 1967 and transposed to Germany today, "The Wave" is a cautionary tale about the roots of fascism. Seductive and horrifying at the same time, it suggests that anything is possible in today's unstable environment.

An assured piece of filmmaking by Dennis Gansel, "Wave" captures the intoxicating power of conformity. Handled properly, it should generate controversy, leading to decent indie business. But this is a story ripe for an American remake.

The film opens with a rush of energy and doesn't let up. Charismatic teacher Rainier Wegner (Jurgen Vogel) is driving to school with the Ramones' "Rock 'n' Roll High School" blasting in his car as the camera gazes at the calm life of the city passing outside. It's not going to last long.

This is Project Week at school, and though Wegner, an aging radical with unconventional teaching methods, is disappointed that he doesn't get to teach his students about anarchy, he dives headfirst into preparing for his class on autocracy. It's a hard sell to the indifferent students. As one puts it, "What is there left to be against? All we want is to have fun."

What follows is a textbook study of how fascism starts and takes hold. When Wegner asks if a dictatorship like Hitler's would be possible in Germany today, the students either say no or don't care.

But Wegner gets an idea for an experiment. The class elects him as leader, and in contrast to his usual easygoing style he demands that students call him Mr. Wegner and stand when they have something to say. The motto for the day is "strength through discipline."

Once he's got the students' attention, things escalate within a week. Fascism historically has taken hold among an underprivileged, alienated population, and who is more alienated than high school students? They like the idea of dressing the same to reduce social pressures, and they start wearing white shirts. They name the group the Wave and create a logo and secret handshake reminiscent of a Nazi salute.

Much to their surprise, and Wegner's, they find that they like the power of unity, and soon this newfound discipline spills over to other school activities, and newcomers join the group. One student, Karo (Jennifer Ulrich), resists the rising conformity, but even her boyfriend, Marco (Max Riemelt), is smitten.

As in the rise of the Nazis, unstable and disturbed individuals latch on and feel powerful for the first time, and the most damaged become the lieutenants. That's what happens to Tim (Fredrick Lau), a skittish student who no longer feels like an outsider. But when the insiders start bullying other students and violence erupts, Wegner realizes that things might have gone too far.

The genius of the screenplay by Gansel and Peter Thorwarth is that they recognize Wegner's psychology and mixed feelings. His wife, Anke (Christiane Paul), who also teaches at the school, holds him accountable, and he admits he loves being idolized. Vogel is particularly brilliant in the film's climactic scene as he becomes the dictator he feared. The cast of kids, especially Ulrich as the dissenter and Lau as the most vulnerable, are convincing.

BEWARE THE OBAMA WAVE

http://www.dailymotion.com/country/us/v ... -wave_news

[millere]

Yes! Did you read Jonah Goldberg's book "Liberal Fascism"? He said this is exactly how it was proposed. It was stated "it is good for you" it's good for the society" It's good for the country."

Thanks for the suggestion, I will check it out. The frightening thing about German Fascism was that it started when it group of railway workers in Depression era Germany wanted to press the government for unpaid benefits, but the start had nothing to do with the end. Hitler started his career this way under very innocent goals. Fascism seems to only need a small, unrelated social movement in order to get a start before it careens out of control. That is why the suggestions of Obama can have frightening consequences.

Another author, Eric Hoffer has also studied why the US is ripe for a fascist take over:

Amazon

Hoffer allows that to understand the various facets of the fanatical personality requires an understanding of the practices of contemporary mass movements. Written circa 1951, he studied the Nazi's, the Fascist's, and the Communist's because it was here where the successful techniques of conversion had been perfected and applied.

[Gogo]

Very interesting. Can you get a better link? It says that it maybe outdated and not available.

The daily motion one.

[millere]

Very interesting. Can you get a better link? It says that it maybe outdated and not available.

The daily motion one.

That link should be working now. More of the same material is at the website:

http://www.theobamawave.com/

[Gogo]

I just ordered 10 bumper stickers from this site:

http://www.makestickers.com/display.aspx?cat=98

Mine is the American Eagle with the waving flag behind it and it printed it to read:

QUESTION SOCIALISM

[millere]

I just ordered 10 bumper stickers from this site:

http://www.makestickers.com/display.aspx?cat=98

Mine is the American Eagle with the waving flag behind it and it printed it to read:

QUESTION SOCIALISM

Here is another article from the Obama wave site. Not all of it completely accurate, in my opinion, but it suggests the same "mass hypnosis" techniques used by Hitler are being adapted by Obama:

http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27s_U ... eeches.pdf

AN EXAMINATION OF OBAMA’S USE OF HIDDEN HYPNOSIS TECHNIQUES IN HIS SPEECHES

Obama is not just using subliminal messages, but textbook covert hypnosis and neuro-linguistic
programming techniques on audiences that are intentionally designed to sideline rational judgment and
implant subconscious commands to think he is wonderful and elect him President. Obama is eloquent.
However, Obama’s subconscious techniques are shown to elicit powerful emotion from his audience and
then transfer those emotions onto him, to sideline rational judgment, and implant hypnotic commands that
we are unaware of and can’t even consciously question. The polls are misleading because some of Obama’s
commands are designed to be triggered only in the voting booth on November 4th. Obama is immune to
logical arguments like Wright, Ayers, shifting every position, character, and inexperience, because hypnosis
affects us on an unconscious and emotional level. To many people who see this unaccomplished man’s
unnatural and irrational rise to the highest office in the world as suspicious and frightening and to those who
welcome it, this document uncovers, explains, and proves the deceptive tactics behind true “Obama
Phenomenonâ€

[millere]

Exactly Right, plus this has more to do with indoctrinating kids into political agenda.

The mobs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_VfOMb7 ... re=related

[Gogo]

Exactly Right, plus this has more to do with indoctrinating kids into political agenda.

The mobs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_VfOMb7 ... re=related

This is scary. Just think if he hadn't won. Now we will see attitudes from uneducated, emotional people who think this guy really is their messiah. He had better produce. Hey if they get a $40 check they'll think he kept his promise. Really stupid people.