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10-29-2006, 10:01 AM #31
I'm sick of any celebrity voicing their opinion. Just because they have a microphone, stage or tv show doesn't mean they are more important than the average american. Every person gets one vote. Of course they have the "RIGHT" to say whatever they want but I really don't care to hear their useless opinions. I think entertainers are spoiled and out of touch with realities we have to deal with every day. And then to bitch that it's "unfair" that they are suffering consequences because of an irresponsible comment makes me even madder.
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10-29-2006, 11:24 AM #32
I think we should keep any anger we might have towards our government and leaders here in America too. When we go outside of our country to express negative comments or critisism towards our own government we definitely run the risk of aiding any enemies of the United States.
All you have to do is ask yourself....if I say or do this who will benefit or be pleased by it? If you know that those who are against us will be pleased by our actions or words....it's a clear sign to any American that it is the wrong thing to do.
Most of us know that instinctively. Most of us care about our country enough to know that any disagreements ot anger we have towards our own government belongs in our own country where we have the freedom to try to do something about it. It doesn't belong outside of the U.S..
I think this was the DC's way of basically giving GWB the middle finger with as large of a worldwide audience as possible. What we all know is that they were afraid or hesitant to do it in front of an American audience. So they did it while hiding behind the British people who would not react as an American audience might have.
Cowards. They embarrassed themselves by acting un-American and immature. In the long run, many people around the world knew that.
I'm sure there were some people over there who enjoyed it and some who knew that it was wrong and that even they themselves would never do that to their own country.
It's always best when we are outside of the country to represent our country in a way which is basically polite and respectful. Lashing out at the president in another country is poor judgement and could even be dangerous by aiding those who are enemies of the United States.
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10-29-2006, 12:25 PM #33
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Not so fast LegalUsCitizen.
"I'm ashamed the President is from Texas" is not exactly aiding and abetting our enemies. Whether it was said in England, Kansas or on the moon is immaterial. It's not even close to what Kieth Ollbermen said and it is a perfectly correct use of the freedom of speech. It's not yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre and it's s lot less than a lot of ALIPACers have said on this site about Bush. Does hiding behind a website make our comments exempt. When are you going to understand that stifiling free speech is absolutely necessary to a government that wants to take away your rights and do as they please such as amnesty or habeus corpus. All Americans have to maintain the right to free speech.
That's what this is about, not what some lead singer in a country band said, it's what an American said.
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10-29-2006, 12:32 PM #34
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I think we should keep any anger we might have towards our government and leaders here in America too. When we go outside of our country to express negative comments or critisism towards our own government we definitely run the risk of aiding any enemies of the United States.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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10-29-2006, 05:35 PM #35Originally Posted by UBThe John McCain Call Center
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10-29-2006, 08:41 PM #36Not so fast LegalUsCitizen.
As far as things we say in this battle to stop illegal immigration, you're right we say quite a lot, but what we say is very truthful. There are times that I say things and before I go to bed that night, I pray on my knees..."Please God, don't let me get into trouble for what I said about President Bush." I seriously do.
As we all know we can only say so much. We know the rules at ALIPAC very clearly. I know that most if not all of us do not have any desire to say something which is overboard or illegal. Most, if not all of us are angry with President Bush, but we do not wish to ever see anything bad really happen to him. The movie which was made in Canada..... I think that is a crime in and of itself. I am against the making of that movie with every ounce of American that is in me. I do not consider that to be freedom of speech. Personally, I would like to see action taken against those filmakers and the actors and anyone who had anything to do with making it.
Well, I understand your point and I think I'm going to try harder not to abuse my freedom of speech. Sometimes I probably do at least a little. I want to continue to work with and support those who are fighting against illegal immigration. Sometimes this battle requires strong words.
I hope that someday soon President Bush will come to see and understand that the best way for America is the right way and the lawful way. If doing things the right way causes us any difficulties, I'm sure the difficulties will not be any worse than they are right now and I think that we can get through them.
As far as the DC's go.......I don't really know if it was all that bad....I would just say that we all should think before we speak and consider that what we say does have an affect on our country.
I would respectfully disagree with you if you think that sometimes holding back a comment or comments under certain conditions for the sake of our country would fall into the category of stifiling our freedom of speech.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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10-29-2006, 09:52 PM #37
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Okay, UB, you are right about some things. What they said is hardly aiding and abetting the enemy......you're probably right.
For further understanding of the ramifications of such actions, the combat military has made their feelings quite clear! Imho, they would definitely be in the know.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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10-29-2006, 10:15 PM #38
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"I'm ashamed the President is from Texas"
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10-29-2006, 11:29 PM #39
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Originally Posted by UB
However, UB..........that little comment you've been repeatedly quoting is NOT the only thing that these little brain dead song birds shouted over their microphones. The crowd roared and Maines continued to feed them. Please get the facts straight. The fiasco that they started wound up to be a rather raucus part of the concert although they'd prefer us to forget that little detail. This little STUNT was heard round the world and gave our enemy much ammunition not to mention the problems it helped to flame in France and the rest of the EU. They managed to milk the press for weeks and weeks. Had they been on US soil I very much doubt that the traction would have been more than a blip or two.
It would do us all well to go back into history and see the destruction wrought on our country en toto that the communist funded anti-war activists perpetrated.........the same activists that are now funding and helping the ILLEGAL ACTIVISTS such as LaRaza.......
Learn & understand the strategy that is, once again, being used to aid and abet our enemies. Those who don't learn from history are destined to repeat the mistake - only this time, we may not survive it.
This entire problem that we face today culminated during the Viet Nam era. The PERFECT STORM. We would not be in the position/situation we are at this moment in time had we be smarter, stronger and more determined to stop the communist/socialists from invading every single institution in our country by using a 'war' as their stimulous and the dumb ass American people as their grunts. Now, the only things that matter are winning and the security of our troops.....not some idiotic notion of "exit strategy." What better gift to give the enemy who'd prefer to lop your head off.
As far as the chick idiots go........we'd barely set Desert Ripple boots to turf so what was their beef in the first place?
Now they'll be headlining in ROCK THE VOTE for the libs on VH1. Hope they open their mouths one more time on US soil!
And I reserve my right to give their selfish, Globalist asses not one of my hard earned American cents.
How's that for FREE SPEECH. BTW, never could and still can't stand any of the bushes. My beliefs have not a twit to do with bush. Too bad those morons didn't know enough to go after Congress........where the real blame lies!! These yahoos have had the power for decades to put a stop to this horror but, for the most part, they're in on the little scheme or just plain inept at their jobs.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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10-29-2006, 11:38 PM #40
President Bush Represents the United States???
They had the right to say whatever they want and they suffer the consequences from so called patriots who sit around listening to Rush or watching reality TV and not doing anything politically.
I wonder how much the founders of this country who stood up against King George lost by saying what needed to be said.
The freedoms that we enjoy today began because they were brave enough to open their mouths and look what it cost most of them. (I’m not going to tell you, look it up if you don’t know).
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