Thread: Old-line Republican warns 'something's in the works....'

I know there are "globalists" and people such as that Pastor guy who created the NAU who are clearly very unbalanced to say the least, in fact very dangerous and anti-American and very scarey and very bad for our country.

I think President Bush is a globalist, but not of the same type as Pastor. I believe that although President Bush is stubborn in his ideas and totally negligent, out of touch and unexcusable and dispicable in the way he handles illegal immigration, I do not for a minute think that he is out to harm or kill Americans with "terrorist attacks".

I think that wire tapping was to help us to know what terrorist organizations were planning, not to listen in to us talking to our friends and relatives.

I think the executive order giving President Bush the ability to implement martial law is because if there ever is a huge terrorist attack or a nuclear type of attack he would need to do that at least for a certain period of time. I've experienced, not martial law, but things similar like curfues and lots of restrictions after a disaterous hurricane. When you're town is in complete chaos after a huge disaster, you see those restrictions much differently, as a way of keeping your family safer because after disasters the people are extremely vulnerable to a lot more danger than they are under normal circumstances. A LOT!! A person may have to have the first hand experience of a major disaster to realize that.

It was the Democrats who blocked a bill that would prevent people from being sued for reporting suspicious behavior. Score one for the imams! Maybe someone could explain how this blow against our free speech took place. Do you think the Ft. Dix photo store kid would have reported it, if he thought he would have been sued?? Why did Dems stand up and declare we have 'lost' the war? I'm sure Al Q loves to hear those words.

There are people who hate the western world and are determined to follow their "destiny" to rule the world. Every war, every conflict there have been people blaming the govt....Pearl Harbor was a conspiracy and Vietnam was a conspiracy. Our entering WW11 was a conspiracy. To state that Republicans are "praying for another 9/11 is absolutely absurd. Maybe the next one would hit the Capitol bldg. Nothing like praying for a catastrophe to hit yourself or possibly your loved ones.

Bureaucrats love to regulate and things like tagging animals was motivated by tracking exposure to deadly diseases. Like most everything else they do, it gets out of hand.

Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement,
and Government Officials Question
the 9/11 Commission Report

Many well known and respected senior U.S. military officers, intelligence services and law enforcement veterans, and government officials have expressed significant criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report or have made public statements that contradict the Report.Â* Several even allege government complicity in the terrible acts of 9/11. This website is a collection of their statements.Â* It is not an organization and it should be made clear that none of these individuals are affiliated with this website.

Listed below are statements by more than 100 of these senior officials. Their collective voices give credibility to the claim that the 9/11 Commission Report is tragically flawed. These individuals cannot be simply dismissed as irresponsible believers in some 9/11 conspiracy theory. Their sincere concern, backed by their decades of service to their country, demonstrate that criticism of the Report is not irresponsible, illogical, nor disloyal, per se. In fact, it can be just the opposite.

General Wesley Clark, U.S. Army (ret)
Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret)
Col. Ronald D. Ray, U.S. Marine Corps (ret)
Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret)
Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret)
Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret)
Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret)
Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret)
Lt. Col. Jeff Latas, U.S. Air Force (ret)
Commander Ted Muga, U.S. Navy (ret)
Major Douglas Rokke, PhD, U.S. Army (ret)
Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force (ret)
Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director.

Too many more to list here. Go to link:

http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/

My take: OBL did it. Bush may have had fore-knowledge, and let it happen anyway. Bush used it to implement the Patriot Act and start his neoconservative wars. Conclusion: 9-11 = Bush's Reichstag fire.

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

My take: OBL did it. Bush may have had fore-knowledge, and let it happen anyway. Bush used it to implement the Patriot Act and start his neoconservative wars. Conclusion: 9-11 = Bush's Reichstag fire.

Don't forget - OBL was on the CIA payroll when we helped them fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.

Originally Posted by chloe24

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

My take: OBL did it. Bush may have had fore-knowledge, and let it happen anyway. Bush used it to implement the Patriot Act and start his neoconservative wars. Conclusion: 9-11 = Bush's Reichstag fire.

Don't forget - OBL was on the CIA payroll when we helped them fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.

Oh, I didn't forget that.....The affiliations with the Saudis in general is enough to make you wonder.

I am also of the mind that we let OBL get away on purpose, so as to continue the "War on Terror" indefinitely, take away constitutional rights, keep the population scared, yearning for protection by Big Brother, and start endless neocon wars in the ME.

http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/

Here is the link for the pilots for 9/11 truth.

Here are acouple of videos you can view on their website
Interview With Air Force Fighter Pilot
06/23/07

Lt. Co. Guy Razer, member Pilotsfor911truth.org interviewed regarding Sept 11, 2001 NORAD response, Defense protocol, and personal experiences. 29:45


Interview With

LtCol. Jeff Latas
Former USAF Accident Investigation President
06/25/07

Pilotsfor911truth.org member LtCol. Jeff Latas and Co-Founder Rob Balsamo chat about 9/11, lack of a real investigation, Flight Data Recorder conflicts with govt story, politics and the war.

Here is the list of members

List of Members

(updated regularly)
Robert Balsamo
4000TT Commercial, Instrument, Multi, CFI II MEI
Corporate Chief Pilot
135 Capt
121 FO Independence Air/Atlantic Coast Airlines
King Air C-90/200, Dornier 328JET

Glen Stanish
15,000TT ATP
American Airlines, ATA, TWA, Continental
MD-80, 737

Captain Russ Wittenberg (ret)
30,000+ Total Flight Time
707, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777
Pan Am, United
United States Air Force (ret)
Over 100 Combat Missions Flown
Has time in:
- N591UA (Aircraft dispatched as United 93)
- N612UA (Aircraft dispatched as United 175)

John Lear
Son of Bill Lear
(Founder, creator of the Lear Jet Corporation)
More than 40 years of Flying
19,000+ TT
23 Type ratings
Flight experience includes 707, DC-8, 727, L10-11

Jeff Latas
-Over 20 years in the USAF
--USAF Accident investigation Board President
--Flew the F-111, T38, and F-15E
--Combat experience in the F-15E includes Desert Storm and four tours of duty in Northern and Southern Watch
--Weapons Requirements Officer, USAF HQ, Pentagon
--Standard and Evaluations Flight Examiner, Command level
-Currently Captain for JetBlue Airways

Guy S. Razer, LtCol, USAF (Ret)
3,500+ Hours Total Flight Time
F-15E/C, F-111A/D/E/F/EF, F-16, F-18, B-1, Mig-29, SU-22, T-37/38, Various Cvilian Prop
Combat Time: Operation Northern Watch
USAF Fighter Weapons School Instructor
NATO Tactical Leadership Program Instructor/Mission Coordinator
USAF Material Command Weapons Development Test Pilot
Combat Support Coordination Team 2 Airpower Coordinator, South Korea
All Service Combat Identification Evaluation Team Operations Officer
Boeing F-22 Pilot Instructor
MS Aeronautical Studies, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University

Field McConnell (Captain Sherlock?)
23,000+ hours
CV580,DC9,MD80,B727,A320,DC10
NCA,REP,NWA
A4,F4,F16 USN,USMC, ND ANG
www.captainsherlock.com
Forced to retire due 9/11 exposure
www.hawkscafe.com

Captain Paul A. Trood
B737-800/400 Captain
Qantas Airways
Australia
Experience: 18,000 flight hours

Jim Mustanich
ATP 20,000+ hours
Typed in CE-500, DHC-7, EMB-110, BA-3100
Aircraft flown include Boeing 727,737, Douglas DC-9, MD-80
United Air Lines, American International Airlines, Air Pacific Airlines, West Air Airlines
6-7 years corporate flying in Cessna Citations
Factory demo pilot for Cessna Citations

Ted Muga
Naval Aviator - Retired Commander, USNR
A/C experience - Grumman E-1 and E-2 ( Approx, 3800 hours )
Pan American World Airways - Retired Dec. 1991 ( that's when PanAM went bankrupt )
Flight Engineer/First Officer -- Boeing 707 & Boeing 727 ( approx. 7500 hours )

Col Robert Bowman
President of the Institute for Space and Security Studies
Executive Vice President of Millennium III Corporation
retired Presiding Archbishop of the United Catholic Church
101 combat missions in Vietnam
directed all the “Star Warsâ€

If you want reason and facts read this:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... tml?page=2

This post does not belong here because it has absolutely nothing to do with illegal immigration (should be posted on Other Topics forum). Furthermore, the suggestion that President Bush had a hand in murdering 5,000 American citizens is ludicrous!

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Now - how many Americans have been killed by illegal aliens since he has been in office and fighting to keep the borders open?

How many children have been molested since he has been in office and fighting to keep the borders open?

He is doing those things -

I don't know the rules here - but 9/11 and the horror that is happening to Americans at the hands of illegals - is very much about illegal immigration.

Terrorism is very much a part of illegal immigration.

I don't know what I believe about 9/11 - but I will say this, any man or group of men/women, who perpetrate, defend, and promote this illegal travesty - cares nothing about America or its people.

Illegal immigration debate isn't just a little disagreement about how much to spend on welfare, or what state gets the most pork - it is about the destruction of America - and American people.

No, he hadn't been in office long enough to really bear the burden of guilt about the hijackers being here.

HOWEVER, had he, upon being elected, made a speech that he was going to close the porous border, round up those here illegal, check ID's, etc.l, etc., the hijackers might never have been able to do what they did.

He bears the burden of guilt for every American killed by illegal aliens and every child whose life has been ruined by these monsters. He is not alone in the guilt - but he is the man who could put a serious dent in it - and he hasn't.