Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

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Dr. Bob Basso, the guy that made the Youtube videos where he dresses up as Thomas Paine, coming back from the past to warn Americans about their country, received a call from yours truly, Barack Obama.

Apparently Obama was pissed off that Dr. Basso's videos were gaining speed and he "invited him to the White House to discuss the nature of these disturbing videos".

We put the latest video in question up on the main page at http://grou.ps/zapem along with a 10min. audio from the Jerry Doyle show that explains matters further.

Jerry Doyle has been interviewing Dr. Basso on a regular basis. Not only was Dr. Basso warned by Obama not to go public about the interview, Jerry Doyle's show also received a call from the administration warning them not to air it.

That didn't deter either of them.... they immediately told everyone what was going on, putting a hitch in the giggy of Obama's plans. Jerry Doyle believes that the warnings were made to give the Obama administration time to turn Dr. Basso into a rerun of Joe The Plumber.

Glen Beck is also covering this story as far as we know. WND did a short article on it. But the Doyle audio explains much more than either of the two. We refined it last night since podcasts of the show are pay-only.

Keep an eye on this story and spread it to your friends. There's no good reason why Obama is inviting this man to the White House. Basso is calling for a march on Washington soon and he may just be the man to accomplish it!

Links and audio are all under the Featured Video on the Zapem homepage @

http://grou.ps/zapem

* There is no time element to this event, however, the Doyle Show audio is time-sensitive.
Starts: 03/28/2009/19:00
Finishes: 03/28/2009/20:00

Here is a pleasant response for use by persons of good will who don't like being called names.

I am not a 9/11 truther or a conspiracy theorist. I am just a citizen who has a question about the President's qualifications to hold the office. And I am not going away.

Numbers USA as a new petition drive posted on their website. Please go to www.numbersusa.com/content in the middle of the page is an article titled help us with our latest petition drive, click on those words and a new page will open up, scroll down to the blue word petition. Click on the word petition and that will take you to this petition. They got 147,000 signers on their last petition drive.

I am asking you to help them out and see if we can get way more signers on this latest petition. Please help it only takes a second well maybe two or three. At any rate it's a good cause an absolutely fantastic site!

Please spread this around as much as humanly possible!

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Here's the skinny from Phil on what happened at - http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=4991

Originally Posted by FreedomFirst

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:mi ... clnk&gl=us

From the extremely long list of foreign ministers and heads of state, here is a short cut and paste of what has now, within the past day or so, been altered in Pakistan.

President of Tunisia Zine El Abidine Ben Ali (Apr 200
President of Turkmenistan Gurbanguli Berdymukhamedov (Apr 200
President of Turkey Abdullah Gul (Apr 200
President of Uganda Yoweri Museveni (Apr 200
President of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko (Apr 200
President of Uzbekistan Islam Karimov (Apr 200
President of UAE Sheikh Khalifa Bin Zayed Al Nahayan (Apr 200
President of USA (44th) Barrack Hussain Obama of Democratic Party* (Kenyan born) (Since 20th Jan 2009)
President of Venezuela Hugo Chavez (Apr 200
President of Vietnam Nguyen Minh Triet (Apr 200

Even the cached version has now been modified to remove the Kentan birth comment. The link now says:

President of USA (44th) Barrack Hussain Obama of Democratic Party (Since 20th Jan 2009)

These Obama history revisionists are FAST! Think about how successful they would be if they did something productive, like run a business, or help America.

Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan

Originally Posted by FreedomFirst

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:mi ... clnk&gl=us

From the extremely long list of foreign ministers and heads of state, here is a short cut and paste of what has now, within the past day or so, been altered in Pakistan.

President of Tunisia Zine El Abidine Ben Ali (Apr 200
President of Turkmenistan Gurbanguli Berdymukhamedov (Apr 200
President of Turkey Abdullah Gul (Apr 200
President of Uganda Yoweri Museveni (Apr 200
President of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko (Apr 200
President of Uzbekistan Islam Karimov (Apr 200
President of UAE Sheikh Khalifa Bin Zayed Al Nahayan (Apr 200
President of USA (44th) Barrack Hussain Obama of Democratic Party* (Kenyan born) (Since 20th Jan 2009)
President of Venezuela Hugo Chavez (Apr 200
President of Vietnam Nguyen Minh Triet (Apr 200

Even the cached version has now been modified to remove the Kentan birth comment. The link now says:

President of USA (44th) Barrack Hussain Obama of Democratic Party (Since 20th Jan 2009)

These Obama history revisionists are FAST! Think about how successful they would be if they did something productive, like run a business, or help America.

Coming up for air after "sorting socks" ... .... there are different standards among the countries of the world (and the search engines operating in them) relating to how long search engines keep an item in cache memory. It's possible that a routine crawl of the internet pulled up the refreshed page and dislodged the slightly older one. It's also possible that the webmaster followed one of the protocols offered by most of the search engines, to expedite the "scrubbing" of the material they wanted deleted.

http://www.google.com/support/webmaster ... swer=35306

http://www.webappsec.org/lists/websecur ... 00083.html

Screen shots were reported to have been saved. No big deal.

Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan

NEWS ALERT:
=========

Dr. Bob Basso, the guy that made the Youtube videos where he dresses up as Thomas Paine, coming back from the past to warn Americans about their country, received a call from yours truly, Barack Obama.

Apparently Obama was pissed off that Dr. Basso's videos were gaining speed and he "invited him to the White House to discuss the nature of these disturbing videos".

We put the latest video in question up on the main page at http://grou.ps/zapem along with a 10min. audio from the Jerry Doyle show that explains matters further.

Jerry Doyle has been interviewing Dr. Basso on a regular basis. Not only was Dr. Basso warned by Obama not to go public about the interview, Jerry Doyle's show also received a call from the administration warning them not to air it.

That didn't deter either of them.... they immediately told everyone what was going on, putting a hitch in the giggy of Obama's plans. Jerry Doyle believes that the warnings were made to give the Obama administration time to turn Dr. Basso into a rerun of Joe The Plumber.

Glen Beck is also covering this story as far as we know. WND did a short article on it. But the Doyle audio explains much more than either of the two. We refined it last night since podcasts of the show are pay-only.

Keep an eye on this story and spread it to your friends. There's no good reason why Obama is inviting this man to the White House. Basso is calling for a march on Washington soon and he may just be the man to accomplish it!

Links and audio are all under the Featured Video on the Zapem homepage @

http://grou.ps/zapem

* There is no time element to this event, however, the Doyle Show audio is time-sensitive.
Starts: 03/28/2009/19:00
Finishes: 03/28/2009/20:00

I hope to get the chance to meet Bob Basso on April 15th. We have been told he is going to be our star speaker at the "Indy Defenders of Liberty" tax day tea party in downtown Indy at noon on the south side of the state house. (sorry cheap plug, but we have been busting our donuts on this one lol). I personally am hoping he turns up as "Thomas Paine". For those who live nearby, here is the link to our little group lol. (Hey, if I am plugging, I might as well plug all the way). If you know anybody in our neighborhood, please pass this along.

http://www.meetup.com/The-Indy-Defender ... r/9860009/

Originally Posted by armbruster512

It is scary where we are going and the lawyers leading the charge on this are due all the thanks and respect we can give.

BORN IN THE USA?
Eligibility lawyer says Homeland Security shadowing him
Reports incidents involving county, federal agents
Posted: March 25, 2009
11:55 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

A lawyer spearheading the effort in Washington state to bring light to the issue of Barack Obama's eligibility to be president says he was shadowed all day today by officers with the federal Department of Homeland Security, the Snohomish County sheriff's office and the Everitt city police department.

"There's definitely observation," attorney Stephen Pidgeon told WND. "Maybe observation in anticipation of making an arrest."

He said he first became aware of the situation when his wife left their rural home early in the day and reported there were three law enforcement vehicles parked nearby, along with three black Suburban-style vehicles carrying camouflage-wearing agents, apparently from Homeland Security.

Pidgeon said he has been "outspoken" about the Obama administration and its validity due to the eligibility questions, but didn't realize he was "qualifying as an enemy of the state."

He immediately reached out to a number of individuals through e-mail.

"My only protection is to contact the people I know," he said.

..........
Several hours after Pidgeon returned WND's call, he called again. "We are definitely under surveillance and it's coordinated with Homeland Security," he said. He said one of his associates had been followed from his home to the law firm's downtown office, and the associate was stopped just outside the building. "The police officer claimed he didn't have brake lights working," Pidgeon said. "But he does."

There's a separate posting from the person who was stopped in front of Pidgeon's office, in the comments section of another website, and he claimed that he did, indeed, have a non-working light on his car. Scroll down in the next link to read it.

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=4991

The WND article either misquotes Pidgeon, or Pidgeon didn't have the benefit of the first-hand information from the associate and misspoke. There's a little bit more to Stephen Pidgeon than meets the eye. For purposes of this "public" post, the following links are a follow-the-crumbs-that-mark-some-of-the-trail exercise. The more discerning "might" have done checks into publicly available documents such as court records as further background work-ups on who-is-who as these cases have met with brick walls.

http://www.tsrn.us/blog/2009/03/29/stil ... n-pidgeon/

http://crystalchalice.wordpress.com/

http://www.lifesystemscorp.com/lifs_web_site_008.htm

Stephen Pidgeon is a business executive with over 20 years in executive positions with small cap businesses involved in emerging technologies, including bio-technology, MEMS technology, IT, fiber optic and wireless telecommunications technology. Trained as a business lawyer and holding a doctorate of law of Northwestern School of Law, Mr. Pidgeon also is or has been a member of the American Bar Association, the Washington State Bar Association ....

http://www.martindale.com/Stephen-W-Pid ... lawyer.htm

http://74.125.93.104/search?q=cache:A7O ... clnk&gl=us

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_&_Clark_Law_School

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northweste ... Law_School

I have a "problem" when someone puts out information that might be interpreted to mean that he attended a "Tier 1" law school ranked #7 in the nation when, in fact, he attended a respected but regional (ranked #87) law school. There's a concern about whether people might be misled, and whether the confusion that causes them to be misled has been created intentionally.

As far as law enforcement: Granted, M.I.A.C. and its "fusion center" issued that bizarre report, lumping 3rd party Libertarians and Constitution Party people and others in with domestic terrorists, and that might create a certain amount of paranoia elsewhere around the country, about law enforcement and/or military being out to "get" some people. BUT, keep in mind the MIAC report is no longer in circulation and stands repudiated by the Missouri governor AND there's an investigation to find out exactly who authored it.

http://newstribune.com/articles/2009/03 ... ilitia.txt

http://www.kmbc.com/news/19022792/detail.html

The report was composed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center, which was described as part of the Highway Patrol. The report has been shut down, and Missouri's Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder wants the Public Safety Department director put on leave while the report is investigated. [Mike] Ferguson, a Grandview politician, said the key is finding where the information in the report originated.

"They keep telling us that it's public information, documents online, but when we asked where it is, they can't tell us," Ferguson said.

http://www.joplinindependent.com/displa ... 1238085184

One positive development: a bill that says "no political profiling" via law enforcement.

http://www.ky3.com/news/local/41794607.html


The plain fact of the matter is that the MIAC report probably only got into the hands of people who went on to blow the whistle about it on blogs because someone in law enforcement turned it over to someone else, to sound the alert. Reports of Pidgeon or others being "targeted" which turn out to be overblown paranoia only serve to create a "distance" between regular law-abiding citizens and many people in uniform who swore oaths and quite likely share many of the same views about "limited government" and don't want any part of being seen as the enforcer side of a "police state" that harrasses Constitution-loving, law-abiders.

People need to be careful that they don't get "played" ... independent research and critical judgement separates the thinkers from the sheeple, regardless of which directional lean (Left or Right) that is professed.

Originally Posted by FreedomFirst

Originally Posted by armbruster512

It is scary where we are going and the lawyers leading the charge on this are due all the thanks and respect we can give.

BORN IN THE USA?
Eligibility lawyer says Homeland Security shadowing him
Reports incidents involving county, federal agents
Posted: March 25, 2009
11:55 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

A lawyer spearheading the effort in Washington state to bring light to the issue of Barack Obama's eligibility to be president says he was shadowed all day today by officers with the federal Department of Homeland Security, the Snohomish County sheriff's office and the Everitt city police department.

"There's definitely observation," attorney Stephen Pidgeon told WND. "Maybe observation in anticipation of making an arrest."

He said he first became aware of the situation when his wife left their rural home early in the day and reported there were three law enforcement vehicles parked nearby, along with three black Suburban-style vehicles carrying camouflage-wearing agents, apparently from Homeland Security.

Pidgeon said he has been "outspoken" about the Obama administration and its validity due to the eligibility questions, but didn't realize he was "qualifying as an enemy of the state."

He immediately reached out to a number of individuals through e-mail.

"My only protection is to contact the people I know," he said.

..........
Several hours after Pidgeon returned WND's call, he called again. "We are definitely under surveillance and it's coordinated with Homeland Security," he said. He said one of his associates had been followed from his home to the law firm's downtown office, and the associate was stopped just outside the building. "The police officer claimed he didn't have brake lights working," Pidgeon said. "But he does."

There's a separate posting from the person who was stopped in front of Pidgeon's office, in the comments section of another website, and he claimed that he did, indeed, have a non-working light on his car. Scroll down in the next link to read it.

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=4991

The WND article either misquotes Pidgeon, or Pidgeon didn't have the benefit of the first-hand information from the associate and misspoke. There's a little bit more to Stephen Pidgeon than meets the eye. For purposes of this "public" post, the following links are a follow-the-crumbs-that-mark-some-of-the-trail exercise. The more discerning "might" have done checks into publicly available documents such as court records as further background work-ups on who-is-who as these cases have met with brick walls.

http://www.tsrn.us/blog/2009/03/29/stil ... n-pidgeon/

http://crystalchalice.wordpress.com/

http://www.lifesystemscorp.com/lifs_web_site_008.htm

[quote:uzcp3cz3]Stephen Pidgeon is a business executive with over 20 years in executive positions with small cap businesses involved in emerging technologies, including bio-technology, MEMS technology, IT, fiber optic and wireless telecommunications technology. Trained as a business lawyer and holding a doctorate of law of Northwestern School of Law, Mr. Pidgeon also is or has been a member of the American Bar Association, the Washington State Bar Association ....

http://www.martindale.com/Stephen-W-Pid ... lawyer.htm

http://74.125.93.104/search?q=cache:A7O ... clnk&gl=us

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_&_Clark_Law_School

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northweste ... Law_School

I have a "problem" when someone puts out information that might be interpreted to mean that he attended a "Tier 1" law school ranked #7 in the nation when, in fact, he attended a respected but regional (ranked #87) law school. There's a concern about whether people might be misled, and whether the confusion that causes them to be misled has been created intentionally.

As far as law enforcement: Granted, M.I.A.C. and its "fusion center" issued that bizarre report, lumping 3rd party Libertarians and Constitution Party people and others in with domestic terrorists, and that might create a certain amount of paranoia elsewhere around the country, about law enforcement and/or military being out to "get" some people. BUT, keep in mind the MIAC report is no longer in circulation and stands repudiated by the Missouri governor AND there's an investigation to find out exactly who authored it.

http://newstribune.com/articles/2009/03 ... ilitia.txt

http://www.kmbc.com/news/19022792/detail.html

The report was composed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center, which was described as part of the Highway Patrol. The report has been shut down, and Missouri's Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder wants the Public Safety Department director put on leave while the report is investigated. [Mike] Ferguson, a Grandview politician, said the key is finding where the information in the report originated.

"They keep telling us that it's public information, documents online, but when we asked where it is, they can't tell us," Ferguson said.

http://www.joplinindependent.com/displa ... 1238085184

One positive development: a bill that says "no political profiling" via law enforcement.

http://www.ky3.com/news/local/41794607.html


The plain fact of the matter is that the MIAC report probably only got into the hands of people who went on to blow the whistle about it on blogs because someone in law enforcement turned it over to someone else, to sound the alert. Reports of Pidgeon or others being "targeted" which turn out to be overblown paranoia only serve to create a "distance" between regular law-abiding citizens and many people in uniform who swore oaths and quite likely share many of the same views about "limited government" and don't want any part of being seen as the enforcer side of a "police state" that harrasses Constitution-loving, law-abiders.

People need to be careful that they don't get "played" ... independent research and critical judgement separates the thinkers from the sheeple, regardless of which directional lean (Left or Right) that is professed.[/quote:uzcp3cz3]

I think he probably is being watched, why is the big question. It could run both ways. Maybe (playing devils advocate here) they are watching him for HIS protection. Obots are a radical crowd, for all we know, they intercepted a threat against Pidgeon and simply did not want to go public with it. On the other hand, just because you are paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you lol. I think caution is prudent here, I do not think he was over-reacting by sending out the emails, but the bottom line is, we do not know for sure what is going on. We are living in strange historical times, we need to seek nothing but the truth, the whole truth.

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8:24 a.m. March 29, 2009

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