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    Quote Originally Posted by BetsyRoss
    What exactly is a state citizens grand jury, and what legal powers and standing does it have? This guy is frowning:

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ... condemned/

    This citizens grand jury thing is not real. It’s a dog and pony show and a certain distraction from the true education and true power available which will surely confuse the issue and make it easier for the Government to further subvert the true power we the people hold as grand jurors.
    It would seem we have a legal dispute going on here. Donofrio says 'no way,' and Orly Taitz seems to respond 'way.'

    More of Donofrio's discussion and his responses to bloggers here:
    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ... condemned/

    Note, however, that Donofrio seems to have changed his posture with regard to the question of a state grand jury, and I have to assume he has learned since his earlier position. I don't know.

    I'm not an attorney, and I'm not Solomon, and I can't answer the legal question for you. Anyone else have any suggestions on this discussion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BetsyRoss
    What exactly is a state citizens grand jury, and what legal powers and standing does it have? This guy is frowning:
    Quote Originally Posted by BetsyRoss

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ... condemned/

    This citizens grand jury thing is not real. It’s a dog and pony show and a certain distraction from the true education and true power available which will surely confuse the issue and make it easier for the Government to further subvert the true power we the people hold as grand jurors.


    The concept of the Citizens Grand Jury is based upon the Magna Carta which is the foundation of British common law. Our legal system is based upon British common law and we still seat grand juries for indictment purposes.....apparently the only country in the world who still does.

    From my very limited knowledge on the subject, it's supposed to be this which makes the convening of a citizens grand jury in this case a perfectly valid legal strategy.
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    OBAMA CITIZENSHIP CRISIS & INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH STUPIDITY

    OBAMA CITIZENSHIP CRISIS & INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH STUPIDITY

    By: Devvy
    May 4, 2009
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    Why do I call the cover up of Obama aka Soetoro aka and all his other aliases a crisis? Because the longer federal judges play fast and loose with the law and other law enforcement (DOJ) continue to ignore a true constitutional legal challenge, the more extensive the damage to this country will be. As I have said in recent columns, production of a long form vault birth certificate will "not put to rest this issue once and for all." If the document were genuine and showed Obama aka Soetoro and so forth, were born in Kenya, it would only prove what so many of us already know: Obama aka Soetoro is a classic narcissist and pathological liar. However, if a genuine long form birth certificate shows he was born in Hawaii, it still does not get around constitutional restrictions even though his mother was a U.S. citizen.

    The issue of his citizenship status is a legal one, not a political one. This is what Obama's supporters willfully continue to ignore. They gleefully display their industrial strength stupidity by attacking Americans who are asking the law be upheld because no one, not even a president (or usurper president) is above the law. Here are a few examples of individuals who care nothing for our constitution. I can tell you by reading their carefully crafted lies and distortions that they've never spent five minutes reading any legal analysis or historical writings about the issue of 'natural born at birth.'

    Editorial: Facts can't stop Obama rumors (http://tinyurl.com/dl3bq5)
    The MetroWest Daily News
    April 27, 2009

    "But a crowd becoming known as "birthers" continues to pump up the story, and some people are eager to believe.

    "This non-controversy was cleared up long ago, for those capable of using the Internet to discover facts as opposed to spreading lies. We recommend www.snopes.com, which for years has been investigating and reporting on Internet rumors, both true and false. Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, according to the birth certificate posted on Obama's campaign Web site last summer."

    The unnamed author of this bilge is not only factually challenged, but attempts to present facts clearly not in evidence. I can tell you he/she knows nothing about Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution or why the framers grand fathered in this clause. If you take the time to read this complete posting (http://tinyurl.com/68htqk), you will see the alleged birth certificate is a forgery and a poor one at that.

    Culture of conspiracy: the Birthers (http://tinyurl.com/bsrzom)

    "Out of the gaze of the mainstream and even the conservative media is a flourishing culture of advocates, theorists and lawyers, all devoted to proving that Barack Obama isn't eligible to be president of the United States...

    "A quick reality check, before we dive in: The challenges to Obama's eligibility have no grounding in evidence. Courts across the country have summarily rejected the movement's theory — that Obama can't be a citizen because his father wasn't —as a misreading of U.S. law; and Hawaii officials, along with contemporary birth announcements, affirm that Obama was in fact born in Honolulu in 1961.

    "But belief in obscure, discredited theories is a constant in a country with a history of partisan division — a country in which, a recent survey showed, 34 percent of the public believes in UFOs and 24 percent believes in witches..."

    No court in the land has heard one single case based on merit. That is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. The statement about Obama's father and "misreading of U.S. law" is laughable and pathetic. Tying in UFO's and witches is deliberate and transparent.

    David Horowitz, much admired by conservatives, makes an astonishing and completely anti American statement on the issue of the law:

    Obama Derangement Syndrome (http://tinyurl.com/629zso)

    "The continuing efforts of a fringe group of conservatives to deny Obama his victory and to lay the basis for the claim that he is not a legitimate president are embarrassing and destructive... What difference does it make to the future of this country whether Obama was born on U.S. soil?

    "Advocates of this destructive campaign will argue that the constitutional principle regarding the qualifications for president trumps all others. But how viable will our Constitution be if five Supreme Court justices should decide to void 64 million ballots?"

    What difference does it make whether Obama was "born on U.S. soil?" That's not the issue and it's a shame someone like Horowitz shoots off the pie hole in his face without even knowing the correct legal argument. How viable would it be if the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the supreme law of the land? Shame on you, Mr. Horowitz, for your cavalier attitude about the law.

    It is Obama aka Soetoro who has defrauded an alleged 64 million voters. Who is this "fringe group" Horowitz speaks of demanding the supreme law of the land be enforced? Why, some of the very people who protect Horowitz' backside:

    Charles E. Jones
    Brigadier General US Air Force, Retired
    Lifetime subject to recall for active duty
    Recipient of the Distinguished Service Medal (AF)
    02.04.09

    "We the People of the United States of America" are entitled to know the legal qualifications of the President and Commander in Chief. For the better good and National Security of "We the People of the United States" and for Absolute Command of the Military Forces of the United States, I whole heartedly support the efforts of Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ for taking legal action to determine whether or not Barack Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, Citizen of Indonesia and possibly citizen of Kenya, is eligible to become President of the United States and Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces.

    /s/
    Charles E. Jones

    Lt. Scott Easterling, in his capacity as a US army officer, Resident of Tennessee, currently stationed in Iraq; Active Duty Alan C. James, resident of North Carolina, currently stationed in Iraq; Active Duty Specialist Jason James Freese, resident of Alaska; Active National Guardsman Matthew Michael Edwards, resident of Wyoming; Active duty SPC Charles Crusemire, Resident of Pennsylvania, resident of Pennsylvania, currently in Iraq; Active duty Captain Robin D. Biron, resident of Arizona, bronze star recipient in Iraq; Drilling Reservist scheduled for deployment Lita M. Lott, resident of California; Active military James N. Glunt, resident of Pennsylvania; Citadel staff sergeant Timothy W. Kenney, US Marine Corp veteran, Virginia Army National Guard; Major General Carrol Dean Childers, Ret. Lifetime subject to recall, resident of Virginia

    Colonel Harry Riley, Ret. Lifetime subject to recall, Silver star recipient, resident of Florida; Colonel John D. Blair, US Army, Ret, lifetime subject to recall, resident of Florida; LCDR Jeff Graham Winthrope, US Navy, Ret. Lifetime subject to recall, resident of Texas; Lt. Col Dr. David Earl Graef, Active Reserves, resident of Virginia; Commander Charles Maxwell, US Navy, recipient of 4 gold stars, Ret., lifetime subject to recall, resident of New York; Lieutenant Colonel Donald Sullivan, resident of North Carolina; Lieutenant Colonel John David Klein, US Air Force, subject to recall, resident of Kentucky; Commander David Fullmer LaRocque, US Navy reserves, Ret, subject to recall, resident of California; Lieutenant Colonel Charles L. Miller, Ret US Air Force, lifetime subject to recall, resident of Ohio

    Lieutenant Colonel Richard Norton Bauerbach, US Air Force, Inactive Reserve, silver star recipient, resident of Arizona; LTC Chetwin M. Hurd, Ret, resident of Texas; Lieutenant Commander John Bruce Steidel, US Navy reserves, resident of Washington; Lieutenant Colonel John P. Petersen, Active Reserves, Resident of Colorado; Chief Major Tony W. A. Donnelly Army National Guard, resident of Virginia; Major Stephan F. Cook, EN US Army; Major Paulette M. Klein, Ret. US Air Force, subject to recall, resident of Kentucky; Major Bradley Charles Franklin, Ret, life time subject to recall USAF, resident of Illinois; Major Robert W. Fry, Ret. Lifetime subject to recall US Army veteran, resident of Washington; Major James Cannon, US Marine Corps, ret., resident of New Mexico; Judge Advocate for the charter of American Legion, Jack Cannon, Ret., resident of New Mexico

    Major David Grant Mosby, Ret US Air Force, resident of Washington; Major Art Scheffer, US Air Force, Ret., subject to recall resident of Louisiana; Captain Edward Adams Ret, GA National Guard, resident of Georgia; Captain Pamela Barnett, Commander, training officer on temporary medical disability; Captain Neil B. Turner US Army Aviation, Ret. Subject to recall, resident of California; Captain Harry G. Butler, US Navy Seal; Captain Larry A Shewmaker, US Air Force Ret., resident of South Carolina; Captain Ralph H. Jenkins, Ret US Marine Corps, resident of Texas; Airline Captain and Naval Officer D. Andrew Johnson, Ret. Lifetime subject to recall resident of California; Officer Clint Grimes, Long Beach California Police Department and Navy active Reserve; Lieutenant Will Harper, US Navy reserve, resident of Virginia

    First Lieutenant Renee A. Kania, resident of Ohio; Pilot Dana Eugene Latta, ret., resident of North Carolina; SMsgt Gary M. Morris, bronze star recipient, Ret., resident of Florida; Sergeant Jeffrey Wayne Rosner, Hon Dis., resident of Texas; SFC Susan K Irwin, US Army reserve, resident of Indiana; Aircraft Pneudraulics Specialist Thomas J Taylor, US Air force resident of California; Specialist Jennifer Leah Clark US Army Reserve, resident of Illinois; SFC E7 Robert Lee Perry, US Army, Ret, resident of Iowa; Mr. Frank Adelman, Ret military; SFC Lowell K Doherty, US army, resident of Florida; Sergeant First class Morgan Samuel Ward, US army recruiter, resident of Texas; PFC Jean S. Charles, resident of Vermont; Corporal Gary Stuart Cox, US Marine Cop, Virginia National Guard, Ret., Retired State Trooper, resident of Virginia; First Sergeant William Shires , Ret US Army

    Chief Warrant Officer Thomas S. Davidson, Ret., lifetime subject to recall, resident of Arizona; E8 Senior Chief Journalist, Richard E. Venable, US Navy, resident of California; E7 Paralegal, MSGT USAF Steven Kay Neuenschwander, ret., resident of Washington; E6 James Randolph Reid Lapp, US Navy Cryptologist, Inactive Reserve, resident of Virginia; E6 Ronald Whaley, US Navy Veteran, residing in Georgia; E6 Mark Francis Rayome, US Navy Seabees, resident of Colorado; E6 Ronald Durward Howell, Air Traffic controller, resident of Tennessee; CW4 David Robert, Black Hawk Helicopter pilot, Ret.., resident of Mississippi; Sp4-E4 Richard M. Keefner, honorably discharged US Army, resident of Illinois; E4 Thomas R. Knight US Navy Reserves; Sp4 US Army Artur J. Olscszewski, retired, resident of Pennsylvania; E4 Larry W. Highlen, resident of Indiana; E3 Jim Szakmary, US Marine Corp, Federal Employee, resident of New York

    E2 Wayne Eugene Keller, Ret., resident of Pennsylvania; Mr. Robert David Riley, US military Ret., resident of Georgia; Mr. Jeffrey Schwilk, US military ret., resident of California; SGT USAF E4. Danney L. Lawler US Air Force veteran, currently international law student in Manila, Philippines; Mr. David L. Bosley US Air Force veteran, resident of California; Ms. Loretta G. Bosley US Air Force veteran, resident of California; Mr. Kurt C. Fuqua, resident of Illinois, father of an active military serviceman and blood relative of Mr. Obama. Mr. Fuqua’s petition for Mr. Obama’s records was denied in the State of Hawaii and Mr. Fuqua was told to wait for a year for the records.

    Included in the "fringe group" are elected members of state legislatures who have taken considerable flack because they believe no one is above the law:

    Mr. Eric Swafford, in his capacity of the State representative from the State of Tennessee; Mr. Timothy Jones, ESQ, in his capacity of a State Representative from the state of Missouri; Mr. Timothy Comerford, in his capacity of a State Representative from the State of New Hampshire; Mr. Frank Niceley in his capacity of the state representative from the state of Tennessee; Ms. Cynthia Davis, in her capacity of a State representative from the State of Missouri; Mr. Larry Rappaport in his capacity of a State Representative from the State of New Hampshire; Mr. Stacey Campfield in his capacity of a State representative from the state of Tennessee; Mr. Casey Guernsey in his capacity of a State Representative from the state of Missouri; Mr. Glen Casada, in his capacity of a State Representative from the state of Tennessee

    Included in the "fringe group" are those who, in good faith, were either candidates or electors and feel they have been cheated and victims of fraud:

    Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes, in his capacity of a Presidential candidate on the Ballot in 2008 Presidential Election. Ms. Gail Lightfoot, in her capacity of a vice presidential candidate for Ron Paul on the Ballot in CA in the presidential election. Mr. Robert Cusanelli, in his capacity as an Elector of the 2008 electoral college from the state of Alabama.

    None of the previously mentioned complainers mentions some of the cases - which Americans have every right to bring forward -- were tampered with by known persons at the U.S. Supreme Court (http://tinyurl.com/cut2u8). None of the above report that every court has refused to hear these cases based on merit and facts. Instead, each and every one of them have been dismissed because of "standing" (which these days can mean anything) or because a judge read on the Internet there was no merit! Dr. Orly Taitz has fully documented all the manipulating that has gone at our highest court. None of them mention the outrageous problems that went on with Leo Donofrio's case. The list is endless and those responsible should be hauled in front of the grand jury because no one is above the law.

    It doesn't seem to bother any of of them that Obama aka Soetoro has spent approximately $940,000 to keep his school records and the long form vault birth certificate under seal. It doesn't seem to bother them that politically corrupt federal judges would make rulings based on "twittering." How shameful. Dirty journalism has printed easily proven lies (http://tinyurl.com/d37js4) about Dr. Orly Taitz, i.e., she hasn't been admitted to practice in front of the Supreme Court (proof here (http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=387) and here (http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=585) is her certificate), she has false teeth and more malicious slander. Orly has provided all the official documentation (except her real teeth) to refute these lies. Her paypal account has been hacked and donations stolen; Orly has demanded the FBI investigate as well as the hacking of her web sites. This seeker of the truth is a dentist with a thriving practice in Southern California, a licensed attorney and real estate agent; she speaks five languages, is a loving mother and wife.

    Many sincere Americans are struggling to understand the issue of 'natural born at birth.' I have taken the time to pull all of the legal analysis and historical writings on this issue published by Leo Donofrio (an attorney who brought forth one of the cases the Supreme Court refused to hear) into one place. In this link is also a few items from Dr. Taitz and Mario Apuzzo, Esq. This way, you can read all the legal arguments in one place in sequence. Research takes time. If you don't have the time, you don't want the truth. I believe you will see this issue is not a "frivolous" one and that Obama aka Soetoro does NOT meet constitutional eligibility. He has known it all along and so have his co conspirators in covering up this massive fraud.

    The complete file (http://tinyurl.com/cyfwwj)

    Until this legal issue is resolved, Obama aka Soetoro will continue signing laws that will eventually lead to a torrent of lawsuits that will flood the courts and continue to divide this country. I am printing out a copy of this column and sending it to several U.S. Attorney's as well as individuals in the FBI (Not Mueller). We the people will not be silenced on this issue by industrial strength stupidity pumped out by politically motivated individuals in the media or the David Horowitz's who have so little regard for the U.S. Constitution. Every American should continue demanding U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Taylor convene a Quo Warranto. Every American regardless of political party affiliation should continue demanding the various U.S. Attorney's investigate Obama aka Soetoro for fraud regarding the data bases put together by Dr. Taitz. Only millions of letters or faxes will put on enough heat to bring this to a court of law.

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    2 - Short video: Obama and Odinga Campaign in Kenya (http://tinyurl.com/3l2xqh)

    1 - Berg PR Vows Successful Appeal (http://tinyurl.com/cx79c7); USJF Says Obama Nomination Papers Perjurious; Dr. Taitz: “Cease and Desistâ€
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    "The continuing efforts of a fringe group of conservatives to deny Obama his victory and to lay the basis for the claim that he is not a legitimate president are embarrassing and destructive... What difference does it make to the future of this country whether Obama was born on U.S. soil?

    "Advocates of this destructive campaign will argue that the constitutional principle regarding the qualifications for president trumps all others. But how viable will our Constitution be if five Supreme Court justices should decide to void 64 million ballots?"
    Sadly, I am beginning to think there is some merit to his argument. Think about it seriously for a moment folks. The way that people are Not taking to the streets in mass every time the Government tramples the constitution, breaks or ignores it's own laws, and goes way beyond its bounds leads me to believe that true Americans, those who believe as our founders did, have indeed become a "fringe group".
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    Quote Originally Posted by cayla99
    "The continuing efforts of a fringe group of conservatives to deny Obama his victory and to lay the basis for the claim that he is not a legitimate president are embarrassing and destructive... What difference does it make to the future of this country whether Obama was born on U.S. soil?

    "Advocates of this destructive campaign will argue that the constitutional principle regarding the qualifications for president trumps all others. But how viable will our Constitution be if five Supreme Court justices should decide to void 64 million ballots?"
    Sadly, I am beginning to think there is some merit to his argument. Think about it seriously for a moment folks. The way that people are Not taking to the streets in mass every time the Government tramples the constitution, breaks or ignores it's own laws, and goes way beyond its bounds leads me to believe that true Americans, those who believe as our founders did, have indeed become a "fringe group".
    Fortunately, this 'Founders' fringe group is the lawful group, but not so for the revisionist group. The revisionist group is composed of malicious anti-Americans and uneducated co-dependent dupes. There is no legitimate or rational reason for the unlawful forces to exist, other than to continue to live off the productive efforts of the Founders Fringe Group (hmmm. we can call it the FFG).

    I think we're getting to a time when we have to decide whether we are a country based on laws or a country based on anarchy. If we are a country based on law, we have to act that way and start enforcing our laws (something Obama doesn't want us to do for obvious reasons).

    We can't have it both ways.
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    I've been following this for some time. It makes one scratch his head "WHY" would someone not want anyone to see his College Transcripts.
    I was curious, has anyone brought suit against the DNC and Howard Dean. They ARE responsible for vetting THIER canidate. As a Senator this should be in his records, so just saying, this is the place to start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriotofPast
    I've been following this for some time. It makes one scratch his head "WHY" would someone not want anyone to see his College Transcripts.
    I was curious, has anyone brought suit against the DNC and Howard Dean. They ARE responsible for vetting THIER canidate. As a Senator this should be in his records, so just saying, this is the place to start.
    I am not positive, but I think someone has brought suit to just about everyone who is involved in this mess.
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    Re: OBAMA CITIZENSHIP CRISIS & INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH STUPI

    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan
    OBAMA CITIZENSHIP CRISIS & INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH STUPIDITY

    By: Devvy [Kidd]
    May 4, 2009
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    Why do I call the cover up of Obama aka Soetoro aka and all his other aliases a crisis? Because the longer federal judges play fast and loose with the law and other law enforcement (DOJ) continue to ignore a true constitutional legal challenge, the more extensive the damage to this country will be.

    1 - Watch this short video (http://tinyurl.com/crm5pk) You Tube has been scrubbing it from all web sites (can someone preserve it?). Barack Obama and the leader of Kenya's socialist Orange Democratic Movement. Obama's support of ethnic genocide

    2 - Short video: Obama and Odinga Campaign in Kenya (http://tinyurl.com/3l2xqh)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriotofPast
    I've been following this for some time. It makes one scratch his head "WHY" would someone not want anyone to see his College Transcripts.
    I was curious, has anyone brought suit against the DNC and Howard Dean. They ARE responsible for vetting THEIR candidate. As a Senator this should be in his records, so just saying, this is the place to start.

    PatriotofPast, until a court rules that Mr. Obama is a fraudulent candidate for the Presidency, lacking Constitutional qualification as a natural born citizen, there is no grounds for such a lawsuit. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Chair of the DNC, and Ms. Alice Travis Germond, Secretary of the DNC, each attested under oath that Mr. Obama and Sen. Biden were legally qualified for the offices of President and Vice President.



    When Mr. Obama is found guilty of defrauding the election process and We the People of the United States, then Rep. Pelosi and Ms. Germond are liable for perjury. But until Mr. Obama's fraud is proven in court, there can be no indictment for perjury against Rep. Pelosi and Ms. Garmond.
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    BOGUS DOCUMENTS PASSED AS REAL THING

    BOGUS DOCUMENTS PASSED AS REAL THING

    By Lynn Stuter
    May 5, 2009
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    ...

    It was disclosed last week that the AKA Certification of Live Birth (COLB) documents, appearing mostly on pro-AKA sites, have been forged and/or altered. These documents can be viewed at:

    dailykos.com
    politifact.com
    fightthesmears.com
    latimesblogs.latimes.com
    latimesblogs.latimes.com
    latimesblogs.latimes.com

    These images are represented by digital files, ie, computer language which can be opened using a text editor program.

    The COLB appearing at the dailykos.com URL above carries the following information in the digital file:

    What this says is that this image was forged/altered on June 12, 2008 at 08:42:36 using Photoshop CS3 for Macintosh.

    The COLB appearing at the politfact.com URL above carries the following information in the digital file:

    It seems that a computer named "Ducky" was used and Adobe to alter this file. An e-mail to Amy Hollyfield who wrote the article for politifact.com, requesting of her where she obtained the image shown in the article, goes unanswered.

    The same is true of the COLB appearing at the fightthesmears.com URL above:

    And the same is also true of the COLB appearing at the L.A. Times URL's above:

    That the digital images appearing on fightthesmears.com, politifact.com, and the L.A. Times all appear to have been altered using the same computer makes it apparent they all came from the same source. It is also obvious from the digital files of these images, that there are multiple forged/altered copies on the internet.

    It is these COLB's that Congress have referenced in claiming that AKA was born in Hawaii. It is very obvious that not one of these documents is authentic.

    In my last article, I addressed the comments of one Janice Okubo, "spokeswoman" for the Hawaii Department of Health. Okubo had claimed that the COLB being waved about by AKA looked like her own "birth certificate", Okubo obviously not knowing the difference between the COLB and a long-form birth certificate issued at the time of birth.

    Request for clarification of Okubo's comments remains unanswered, answer in itself.

    On March 14, 2009, a request for disclosure, under the laws of Hawaii, was made to the Department of Health. That request for disclosure reads as follows:

    Pursuant to Chapter 92F, Hawaii Revised Statutes, I request one copy, complete, of all documents submitted to your office by

    Barack Obama or Barry Obama
    Barack H Obama or Barry H Obama
    Barack Hussein Obama or Barry Hussein Obama
    Barack Soetoro or Barry Soetoro
    Barack H Soetoro or Barry H Soetoro
    Barack Hussein Soetoro or Barry Hussein Soetoro

    … for the purpose of requesting reproduction of documents by your office.

    Please send the requested information to the above address supplied.

    Receiving no response to the first request; a second request was e-mailed directly to Okubu. That request also remains unanswered. Neither request for disclosure has been officially denied as a result of the requested documents being exempt from disclosure.

    The failure of the Hawaii Department of Health to respond, suggests several possibilities:

    1. Collusion by the Hawaii Department of Health with AKA to thwart the public's right to know;
    2. There have been no requests made of the Hawaii Department of Health by AKA for any document which means that all the documents showing up on the internet are forgeries;
    3. The Hawaii Department of Health, in the usual fashion of government entities, believes that by ignoring the request, it will go away.

    Of course, the birth certificate is not the only issue.

    AKA has claimed that he was, at birth, a dual citizen of both the U.S. and Britain. This would void any claim of being a natural born citizen and make him ineligible to the office of president under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5, United States Constitution; dual citizenship does not equate to natural born. The natural born citizen clause was written to preclude individuals with dual loyalties, ie, dual citizenship from becoming president.

    There is also the matter of the adoption of AKA by Lolo Soetoro and AKA's Indonesian citizenship; said citizenship continuing past his 18th birthday when he traveled to Pakistan on a non-American passport (probably on an Indonesian passport).

    What can you do?

    Send this article to your representatives in Congress. Demand an investigation; demand that AKA be forced to produce the following documents, under all names he has used:

    1. long form birth certificate;
    2. adoption records;
    3. education records;
    4. health records;
    5. selective service records;
    6. passport records;
    7. social security records including disclosure of all social security numbers he has used;

    … and that this be done immediately.

    Do not take the inane excuses, such as have already been proffered to date by representatives to Congress, as answer. Force them to do their job. Removing the usurper to the Oval Office is not only their duty but their sworn obligation under their oath to protect and defend the United States Constitution.

    The complete article is here: http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter156.htm
    In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot. -- Mark Twain

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