Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Originally Posted by FreedomFirst

There is a little project that has been going on for a few months, involving lawyers, paralegals, historians, archivists and some resourceful students and others at University of Connecticut.

They have methodically combed through thousands of historic papers and correspondence in search of the context clues, rooted in history and old law and Revolutionary War era experience, that gave meaning to those three words at the time the words were written.

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The letter by George Washington begins with, “We are either a United people, or we are not.â€

Shocker! Judge orders trial on eligibility issue

Arguments planned Jan. 11 for major Obama challenge

Trial set for Obama's birth certificate dispute!
Arguments planned Jan. 11 for challenge to eligibility
A California judge today tentatively scheduled a trial for Jan. 26, 2010, for a case that challenges Barack Obama's eligibility to be president based on questions over his qualifications under the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

If the case actually goes to arguments before U.S. District Judge David Carter, it will be the first time the merits of the dispute have been argued in open court, according to one of the attorneys working on the issue.

In a highly anticipated hearing today before Carter, several motions were heard, including a resolution to long-standing questions about whether attorney Orly Taitz properly served notice on the defendants, which she had.

In a second ruling, Carter ordered that attorney Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation can be added to the case to represent defendants Wiley Drake and Markham Robinson, who had been removed by an earlier court order. Drake, the vice presidential candidate for the American Independent Party, and Robinson, the party's chairman, were restored as plaintiffs.

But the judge did not immediately rule on Taitz' motion to be granted discovery – that is the right to see the president's still-concealed records. Nor did Carter rule immediately on a motion to dismiss the case, submitted by the U.S. government, following discussion over Taitz' challenge to the work of a magistrate in the case.

Carter ordered a hearing Oct. 5 on the motion to dismiss and ordered arguments submitted on the issue of discovery.

If the case survives that challenge, a pretrial hearing has been scheduled for Jan. 11 and the trial for two weeks later.

More to come...

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Shocker! Judge orders trial on eligibility issue
Arguments planned Jan. 11 for major Obama challenge

By Jerome R. Corsi © 2009 WorldNetDaily

A California judge today tentatively scheduled a trial for Jan. 26, 2010, for a case that challenges Barack Obama's eligibility to be president based on questions over his qualifications under the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

But the judge did not immediately rule on Taitz' motion to be granted discovery – that is the right to see the president's still-concealed records. Nor did Carter rule immediately on a motion to dismiss the case, submitted by the U.S. government, following discussion over Taitz' challenge to the work of a magistrate in the case.

The judge did comment that if there are legitimate constitutional questions regarding Obama's eligibility, they need to be addressed and resolved.

Carter ordered a hearing Oct. 5 on the motion to dismiss and ordered arguments submitted on the issue of discovery.

If the case survives that challenge, a pretrial hearing has been scheduled for Jan. 11 and the trial for two weeks later.
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Justice delayed is justice denied.

My sincere apologies for wimping out here. I had to reread my own words.
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Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

Originally Posted by FreedomFirst

There is a little project that has been going on for a few months, involving lawyers, paralegals, historians, archivists and some resourceful students and others at University of Connecticut.

They have methodically combed through thousands of historic papers and correspondence in search of the context clues, rooted in history and old law and Revolutionary War era experience, that gave meaning to those three words at the time the words were written.

http://undeadrevolution.wordpress.com/2 ... n-citizen/

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The letter by George Washington begins with, “We are either a United people, or we are not.â€

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Acting U.S. Attorney George S. Cardona and Asst. U.S. Attorneys Leon W. Weidman, Roger E. West, and David A. DeJute[/size]][on behalf of the DoJ to U.S. District Judge David O. Carter, in re Keyes et al v. Obama et al]

It is clear, from the text of the Constitution, and the relevant statutory law implementing the Constitution’s textual commitments, that challenges to the qualifications of a candidate for President can, in the first instance, be presented to the voting public before the election, and, once the election is over, can be raised as objections as the electoral votes are counted in the Congress. Therefore, challenges such as those purportedly raised in this case are committed, under the Constitution, to the electors, and to the Legislative branch.

The injuries alleged by Plaintiff Freese and the other military Plaintiffs herein, are not particularized as to them, but, rather, would be shared by all members of the military and is an inadequate basis on which to establish standing.

The [lawsuit] does not allege, nor could it allege, that any of these Plaintiffs were even on the ballot in enough states in the year 2008 to gain the requisite 270 electoral votes to win the Presidential election.

I cannot read the rest of their letter to Judge Carter.
I suggest that you should not try to read it either.
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Below is a message from one of the people attending the hearing. It's encouraging:

The expedited trial has been set for Jan. 26, 2010, just 4 1/2 months from now!

I and many other concerned veterans and citizens attended the hearing today in Federal Court in Santa Ana in the lawsuit against Barack Obama to determine his eligibility to be President and Commander in Chief. About 150 people showed up, almost all in support of the lawsuit to demand that Obama release his birth certificate and other records that he has hidden from the American people.

Judge David Carter refused to hear Obama’s request for dismissal today, instead setting a hearing date for Oct. 5, since Obama’s attorneys had just filed the motion on Friday. He indicated there was almost no chance that this case would be dismissed. Obama is arguing this lawsuit was filed in the wrong court if you can believe that. I guess Obama would prefer a “kangaroo courtâ€

Wednesday, Sep. 09, 2009
Army captain files suit over Obama’s citizenship status; Orly Taitz representing soldier
Connie Rhodes says she or others shouldn't have to go to war until Obama's legitimacy is proven
By ALAN RIQUELMY - ariquelmy@ledger- enquirer.com

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An Army captain fighting deployment to Afghanistan has challenged the legitimacy of Barack Obama’s presidency in a federal complaint filed this month, and has employed attorney Orly Taitz — a national figure in the “birtherâ€

Have anyone seen the massive media coverage of the Judge Carter hearing today? No? It's because there is none. Crickets, nothing but crickets. Why is that? Is the issue of BO's eligibility so radioactive that even Fox won't cover it? Of course, as the case progresses and a hearing orders the release of records, the MSM will jump in as if they've been reporting it all along. Shame on these so called journalists and reporters!

[quote="TexasBorn"]Below is a message from one of the people attending the hearing. It's encouraging:

The expedited trial has been set for Jan. 26, 2010, just 4 1/2 months from now!

I and many other concerned veterans and citizens attended the hearing today in Federal Court in Santa Ana in the lawsuit against Barack Obama to determine his eligibility to be President and Commander in Chief. About 150 people showed up, almost all in support of the lawsuit to demand that Obama release his birth certificate and other records that he has hidden from the American people.

Judge David Carter refused to hear Obama’s request for dismissal today, instead setting a hearing date for Oct. 5, since Obama’s attorneys had just filed the motion on Friday. He indicated there was almost no chance that this case would be dismissed. Obama is arguing this lawsuit was filed in the wrong court if you can believe that. I guess Obama would prefer a “kangaroo courtâ€

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

Have anyone seen the massive media coverage of the Judge Carter hearing today? No? It's because there is none. Crickets, nothing but crickets. Why is that? Is the issue of BO's eligibility so radioactive that even Fox won't cover it? Of course, as the case progresses and a hearing orders the release of records, the MSM will jump in as if they've been reporting it all along. Shame on these so called journalists and reporters!

I checked the online Orange County Register about an hour ago, and nothing there either. Really unusual.