Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Oficial Kenyan minutes of March 25th 2010 - stating Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya and is NOT even a United States citizen!

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Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan

Oficial Kenyan minutes of March 25th 2010 - stating Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya and is NOT even a United States citizen!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/29999972/Obam ... ch-25-2010

Thanks Highlander. Did you happen to catch the O'Reilly segment last night talking about the Lt. Col. who refused deployment orders? O'Reilly and Megan Kelly became the focus of my ire when the again dissed the "Birthers" and brave military folks like the Colonel. I also continue to be astounded that Fox News Channel which often brags about it's research prowess continues to say that the Hawaii newspaper birth announcements are the absolute proof that Obama is U.S. born. Unbelievable. I even suspect that they have an underlying agenda to keep this issue under wraps. For what reason I can only speculate.

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan

Oficial Kenyan minutes of March 25th 2010 - stating Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya and is NOT even a United States citizen!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/29999972/Obam ... ch-25-2010

Thanks Highlander. Did you happen to catch the O'Reilly segment last night talking about the Lt. Col. who refused deployment orders? O'Reilly and Megan Kelly became the focus of my ire when the again dissed the "Birthers" and brave military folks like the Colonel. I also continue to be astounded that Fox News Channel which often brags about it's research prowess continues to say that the Hawaii newspaper birth announcements are the absolute proof that Obama is U.S. born. Unbelievable. I even suspect that they have an underlying agenda to keep this issue under wraps. For what reason I can only speculate.

I missed the O'Reilly show last night. Also the Beck show. I don't learn much from either show anymore, so I've stopped watching them. I also don't like either host's attitude toward the Obama eligibility question.

There are problems in this country having to do with corruption and lawlessness and neither O'Reilly nor Beck are addressing the issues. Too bad - both men could add a lot of investigative depth to all of our problems.

If or when Mr. Obama is compelled to resign, the line of succession, not an election, will determine his replacement.

If Vice President Joe Biden's succession is disqualified by reason of his being elected in a unit with Mr. Obama on the Obama-Biden ticket, and Rep. Nancy Pelosi is disqualified for any office by reason of perjury in certifying Mr. Obama as Constitutionally eligible for the Office of President, then the office devolves upon Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV).

President Harry Reid, anyone?

I would never have dreamed I would ever be working to make V.P. Biden, Rep. Pelosi, or Sen. Reid the U.S. President.
__________________________________________________ _________

Presidential Succession Act of 1947 (As Amended)
US Code as of: 01/23/00
Sec. 19. Vacancy in offices of both President and Vice President; officers eligible to act

(a)
(1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President.
(2) The same rule shall apply in the case of the death, resignation, removal from office, or inability of an individual acting as President under this subsection.

(b) If, at the time when under subsection (a) of this section a Speaker is to begin the discharge of the powers and duties of the office of President, there is no Speaker, or the Speaker fails to qualify as Acting President, then the President pro tempore of the Senate shall, upon his resignation as President pro tempore and as Senator, act as President.

(c) An individual acting as President under subsection (a) or subsection (b) of this section shall continue to act until the expiration of the then current Presidential term, except that -
(1) if his discharge of the powers and duties of the office is founded in whole or in part on the failure of both the President-elect and the Vice-President-elect to qualify, then he shall act only until a President or Vice President qualifies; and
(2) if his discharge of the powers and duties of the office is founded in whole or in part on the inability of the President or Vice President, then he shall act only until the removal of the disability of one of such individuals.

(d)
(1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is no President pro tempore to act as President under subsection (b) of this section, then the officer of the United States who is highest on the following list, and who is not under disability to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President shall act as President: Secretary of State, Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Defense, Attorney General, Secretary of the Interior, Secretary of Agriculture, Secretary of Commerce, Secretary of Labor, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Secretary of Transportation, Secretary of Energy, Secretary of Education, Secretary of Veterans Affairs.
(2) An individual acting as President under this subsection shall continue so to do until the expiration of the then current Presidential term, but not after a qualified and prior-entitled individual is able to act, except that the removal of the disability of an individual higher on the list contained in paragraph (1) of this subsection or the ability to qualify on the part of an individual higher on such list shall not terminate his service.
(3) The taking of the oath of office by an individual specified in the list in paragraph (1) of this subsection shall be held to constitute his resignation from the office by virtue of the holding of which he qualifies to act as President.

(e) Subsections (a), (b), and (d) of this section shall apply only to such officers as are eligible to the office of President under the Constitution. Subsection (d) of this section shall apply only to officers appointed, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, prior to the time of the death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, of the President pro tempore, and only to officers not under impeachment by the House of Representatives at the time the powers and duties of the office of President devolve upon them.

(f) During the period that any individual acts as President under this section, his compensation shall be at the rate then provided by law in the case of the President.


The legal reference to the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 is 61 Stat. 380; 3 U.S.C. 19.

BORN IN THE USA?

Justice Clarence Thomas: We're 'evading' eligibility

Does testimony hint at division behind Supreme Court's doors?

Posted: April 17, 2010
4:13 pm Eastern
By Drew Zahn
© 2010 WorldNetDaily


Justice Clarence Thomas

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas told a House subcommittee that when it comes to determining whether a person born outside the 50 states can serve as U.S. president, the high court is "evading" the issue.

The comments came as part of Thomas' testimony before a House appropriations panel discussing an increase in the Supreme Court's budget earlier this week.

Subcommittee Chairman Rep. Jose Serrano, D-N.Y., actually raised the question first amid a discussion on racial diversity in the judiciary.

"I'm still waiting for the [court decision] on whether or not a Puerto Rican can run for president of the United States," said Serrano, who was born in the island territory. "That's another issue."

Yet after Serrano questioned him on whether or not the land's highest court would be well-served by a justice who had never been a judge, Thomas not only answered in the affirmative, but also hinted that Serrano would be better off seeking a seat in the Supreme Court than a chair in the Oval Office.

"I'm glad to hear that you don't think there has to be a judge on the Court," said Serrano, "because I'm not a judge; I've never been a judge."

"And you don't have to be born in the United States," said Thomas, referring to the Constitution, which requires the president to be a natural-born citizen but has no such clause for a Supreme Court justice, "so you never have to answer that question."

"Oh really?" asked Serrano. "So you haven't answered the one about whether I can serve as president, but you answer this one?"

"We're evading that one," answered Thomas, referring to questions of presidential eligibility and prompting laughter in the chamber. "We're giving you another option."

A portion of the exchange, captured on video by C-SPAN, can be seen below:

Justice Thomas: We are evading the eligibility issue

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Serrano opened the hearing by noting the jersey number 42 taped to the platform in honor of black baseball star Jackie Robinson, who 63 years ago this week broke professional baseball's "color barrier" when he took the field for the Brooklyn Dodgers.

Serrano also took a moment to honor the Supreme Court's first Hispanic justice, Sonia Sotomayor:

"I'd like to note before we begin this hearing that there has been a change at the Court, which has special meaning to the Court, to the American society in general, and to me personally," Serrano said, "because Sonia Sotomayor comes from the South Bronx, from the area that I represent and the area I grew up in and her parents were born in the same island of Puerto Rico that I was born in."

Though the hearing was specifically called to address the Court's request for an increase in funding, the racial themes continued when Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Calif., took Thomas and the Supreme Court in general to task for not employing more minority clerks and staff.

Thomas, in turn, praised the value of having people of diverse backgrounds, career paths and regions of the country serving in the judiciary and on Supreme Court staff.

Serrano then asked if Supreme Court would do well to have justices that weren't promoted from the appellate courts, but rather came from state courts or even the ranks of elected officials, laying the foundation for the later banter over Serrano as president or justice.

As WND reported, Justice Thomas had previously resurrected a case challenging Barack Obama's eligibility to be president not based on his birthplace, but on whether Obama, a child born to a foreign national and admitting dual citizenship, would still be eligible under the Constitution's Article 2, Section 1 "natural-born citizen" requirement.

New strategy unveiled on answering Obama's eligibility questions. See how you can help.

Hints of division within the Supreme Court on the issue existed as far back as December 2008, as Justice David H. Souter had initially denied the case a hearing, but Justice Thomas agreed to bring it back for review. The case did not, however, obtain the required approval of four justices to move it forward to a full hearing.

So far, the Supreme Court has not yet heard any case challenging Obama's eligibility on any grounds.

WND has reported on multiple legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

Some of the lawsuits question whether Obama was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.

Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.

Further, others question his citizenship by virtue of his attendance in Indonesian schools during his childhood and question on what passport did he travel to Pakistan three decades ago.

Adding fuel to the fire is Obama's persistent refusal to release documents that could provide answers and the appointment – and payments to one of his eligibility lawyers at a cost confirmed to be at least $1.7 million – of numerous lawyers to defend against all requests for his documentation. That's in addition to the work done by U.S. attorneys defending Obama's eligibility, as in this case.

While his supporters cite an online version of a "Certification of Live Birth" from Hawaii as his birth verification, critics point out such documents actually were issued for children not born in the state.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=142101

Originally Posted by On Oct. 30, 2007, The New York Times

One person who did remember Mr. Obama [at Columbia University] was Michael L. Baron, who taught a senior seminar on international politics and American policy. Mr. Baron, now president of an electronics company in Florida, said he was Mr. Obama’s adviser on the senior thesis for that course. Mr. Baron, who later wrote Mr. Obama a recommendation for Harvard Law School, gave him an A in the course.

Columbia was a hotbed for discussion of foreign policy, Mr. Baron said. The faculty included Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former national security adviser, and Zalmay Khalilzad, now the American ambassador to the United Nations. Half of the eight students in the seminar were outstanding, and Mr. Obama was among them, Mr. Baron said.

Michael J. Wolf, who took the seminar with him and went on to become president of MTV Networks, said: “He was very smart. He had a broad sense of international politics and international relations. It was a class with a lot of debate. He was a very, very active participant. I think he was truly distinctive from the other people in that class. He stood out."

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Originally Posted by On Oct. 30, 2007, The New York Times":3cafoki5][size=7]One person who did remember Mr. Obama [at Columbia University] was [b]Michael L. Baron[/b], who taught a senior seminar on international politics and American policy. Mr. Baron, now president of an electronics company in Florida, said he was Mr. Obama’s adviser on the senior thesis for that course. Mr. Baron, who later wrote Mr. Obama a recommendation for Harvard Law School, gave him an A in the course.

Columbia was a hotbed for discussion of foreign policy, Mr. Baron said. The faculty included Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former national security adviser, and Zalmay Khalilzad, now the American ambassador to the United Nations. Half of the eight students in the seminar were outstanding, and Mr. Obama was among them, Mr. Baron said.

[b]Michael J. Wolf[/b], who took the seminar with him and went on to become president of MTV Networks, said: “He was very smart. He had a broad sense of international politics and international relations. It was a class with a lot of debate. He was a very, very active participant. I think he was truly distinctive from the other people in that class. He stood out."

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And this article came from our friends at the NYT? I'm not certain how much credibility we should give it.

My suspicions are that it was during the 2004 debates with Alan Keyes that it became obvious that Obama was presidential material and that the eligibility issue was the only handicap (well, maybe the 'major' handicap) preventing Obama from serving (now there's an interesting word) as POTUS. Every effort after the debates was to slick up Obama's resume so that he could succeed in the election.

I do believe in conspiracies because man has shown himself as a conspirator whenever it is to his own personal advantage. Getting Obama into office was a moderately long term project by the progressives and socialists, and they succeeded.

Now, it's up to the American people to 'throw the bums out.'

http://www.military.com/news/article/bi ... pbell.html

'Birther' Doc a No-Show at Campbell

April 12, 2010
Military.com | by Bryant Jordan

An Army flight surgeon apparently is sticking to his vow not to deploy until he is satisfied that President Barack Obama is a "natural born" citizen.

Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin did not report for duty at Fort Campbell, Ky. as ordered today, and a spokesman for the post said it's not likely he will.

"The last report I got as of Friday is that he is not going to report to Fort Campbell," spokesman Maj. Patrick Seiber said. "That's from our division surgeon."

Lakin's failure to report essentially dares the Army to bring charges against him for being an unauthorized absence.

Lakin, who has been the chief of primary care at the Pentagon's Tricare health clinic, could not be reached this morning at his Maryland home. Margaret Hemenway, a spokeswoman for a group called the Patriotic American Foundation, which is supporting the 18-year officer, said the Army should not expect Lakin to report unless he sees an original birth certificate showing that Obama was born in Hawaii.

"I think he is solid in his resolve," she told Military.com. "I don't know that they [the Army] know what they are going to do with him. I think they've been counting on him getting down to Fort Campbell. I think they misled themselves and may have underestimated his commitment."

Lakin is scheduled to deploy to Afghanistan. It would be his second deployment there, he said in a video posted on the Patriotic American Foundation website. His failure to report to the Kentucky post marks the first time since he went public with his vow that he has technically disobeyed an order.

The Army has not said yet what it intends to do about Lakin. Calls to his unit -- Headquarters Company, Medical Brigade, Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington -- were not returned by post time.

To this point the Army has ducked taking serious action against the decorated flight surgeon, claiming his public statements and threat to disobey orders did not constitute any punishable offense. On March 31 -- the day after the video was released -- he was given a letter of counseling. In the letter, his commander at Walter Reed warned him against not reporting for duty as ordered.

The orders, Lakin was told, "are presumed to be valid and lawful orders issued by competent military authority." The letter warned Lakin that not showing up at Campbell could result in his facing AWOL charges, as well as missing movement, willfully disobeying a lawful order and showing contempt toward officials. A conviction on any of the charges could mean a dishonorable discharge, imprisonment and loss of all pay and allowances.
. . .

Hemenway said the president has the power to end the controversy just be releasing his original birth certificate. Hemenway does not accept as genuine the Hawaiian birth certificate that has previously been released.

"It would take [Obama] a minute to do it," she said. "It would help heal the country …. And it would be transparent."

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From http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1216821

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Originally Posted by ksdb

This bit of news tends to destroy the faither canard that the founders didn't have access or knowledge of the Law of Nations.

It was destroyed BEFORE they found that reference to George Washington and the overdue The Law of Nations he checked out from the library!

http://www.h4.dion.ne.jp/~room4me/america/franklin.htm

Not only did the founders have access to The Law Of Nations many years BEFORE the revolution .....

Benjamin Franklin had 3 specially edited copies given to him by Charles W. F. Dumas in December 19th, 1775 who was the editor of the 3 editions he gave Benjamin Franklin .... In fact one specific Dumas printed copy of The Law Of Nations that was given to Benjamin Franklin from Dumas was used as a cypher to decode messages between Franklin and Dumas (Who was sympathetic to the American Republic and who personally developed the cypher they used to encode messages between the parties) and the Continental Congress , etc. in the conveyance of messages for correspondence between the parties about but not after April 30th, 1776! Benjamin Franklin was the head of the committee of secret correspondence, and this is why he received the copies edited by Dumas!

The first English translation appears in 1754, and this edition was widely read in the American colonies...

The first American printing appeared in 1796; thus the edition that George Washington checked out from the library would be the 1754 English translation and not the later American printing !
. . .

Here the book's importance and value is discussed !

http://east_west_dialogue.tripod.com/vattel/id3.html

Emmerich de Vattel was the most popular of all writers on the law of nations in America before, but especially after, the American Revolution. Vattel's The Law of Nations arrived, shortly after its publication, in an America, which had already been greatly influenced by Leibniz. No later than 1770, it was used as a textbook in colleges. It was often quoted in speeches before judicial tribunals and legislatures, and used in formulating policy. Following the Revolution, Vattel's influence grew. Vattel was cited far more often than Grotius and Puffendorf, in court proceedings, from 1789 to 1820.

Among those citing Vattel in legal cases and government documents, were Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, James Wilson, Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, John Jay, and John Marshall. John Adams, the future delegate to the Continental Congress, second President of the U.S., and father of President John Quincy Adams, recorded in his Diary on Feb. 1, 1763, that after spending the day frivolously, instead of reading and thinking, ``The Idea of M. de Vattel indeed, scowling and frowning, haunted me.'' In 1765, Adams copied into his Diary three statements by Vattel, ``of great use to Judges,'' that laws should be interpreted according to the intent of the author, and every interpretation which leads to absurdity should be rejected. In a letter to the Foreign Minister of Denmark, in 1779, Benjamin Franklin quoted Vattel, and ``his excellent Treatise entitled Le Droit des Gens.'' James Madison, as a member of the Continental Congress in 1780, drafted the instructions sent to John Jay, for negotiating a treaty with Spain, which quotes at length from The Law of Nations. Jay complained that this letter, which was probably read by the Spanish government, was not in code, and ``Vattel's Law of Nations, which I found quoted in a letter from Congress, is prohibited here.'' Later, John Marshall, during his thirty-four years as Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, quoted Vattel by far the most among all authors on the law of nations.

Originally Posted by Dr BloodMoney":2mh2o7rq][size=7]Library date 1789. Constitutional Convention 1787:

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Originally Posted by Trip

If "natural born" were just a generic term for "born citizen," then surely one of the original colony-states would have mentioned it in their constitutions regarding establishing citizenship. It has no mention in any one of them.

Quite obviously it means more than just "born citizen".

Citizenship in the Original States

If what some contend to be "natural born" had been adopted at the national level by the Constitution, what would have been the point of granting each state the right to enact its own birthright citizenship laws? There would be no point.

If what some believe to be the British Common Law principle of "jus soli" (birth on a country's soil) were adopted in the Constitution, then everyone born on US soil would be [a] citizen, no matter which state, and those states would not have needed their own individual laws. (This however was not the basis of the British Common law "natural born subject", as I've argued previously).

However, ALL States were unanimous in granting citizenship at birth to children who met both the jus soli criteria (they were born in the state) AND the jus sanguinis criteria (their parents were citizens). Some states routinely denied citizenship at birth to children who met only one of these criteria but not both.

In Virginia, if you were born of citizen parents (of virginia) then you were deemed to be a citizen of the state, no matter where you were born:

• all infants wheresoever born, whose father, if living, or otherwise, whose mother was, a citizen at the time of their birth, or who migrate hither, their father, if living, or otherwise their mother becoming a citizen, or who migrate hither without father or mother,

As written by Thomas Jefferson, 1779, "A Bill Declaring Who Shall Be Deemed Citizens of This Commonwealth." However if you were born in Virginia and not of citizen parents, then Virginia gave you the opportunity to take an oath at adulthood to become a citizen (naturalization).

New York, on the other hand, made jus soli (birth on NY soil) the condition of citizenship, and anyone born in New York was, at birth, automatically a citizen of New York, regardless of parental citizenship.

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THE HYPOCRISY OF THE OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE ISSUE

By Lynn Stuter
April 20, 2010
NewsWithViews.com

More than one mother has quipped to the effect that to enroll a child in school, one must produce the child's birth certificate.

More than one military person has lamented that they, too, must produce their birth certificate to enlist and on demand.

The latest being LTC Lakin who was ordered to report for a second tour of duty in the Middle East; ordered to show up for duty with his birth certificate in hand.

He refused to report, stating unequivocally that he has serious reservations that the individual, claiming to be his Commander-in-Chief, is legitimate to the office he holds.

That individual is Barack Hussein Obama or AKA (also known as) for what appears to be a myriad of aliases including the surnames of Dunham, Obama and Soetoro and the given names of Barry, Barack and Barack Hussein. As one can imagine, the combinations are many.

Interesting considering that when AKA applied for an Illinois law license, he claimed no aliases. Yet we know that AKA was adopted by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, and registered as Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen of Muslim faith at the Fransiskus Assisi Primary School in Jakarta, Indonesia on January 1, 1967.

We also know that Barry Soetoro was listed as a dependent over the age of 18 "for the purposes of education" of Lolo Soetoro in the Soetoro divorce papers, raising the specter of his receiving financial aid as a foreign student to attend Occidental College.

As with everything else about AKA, there has been no proof presented that 1) he was ever an American citizen, 2) that he was ever eligible to reclaim American citizenship, and 3) that he ever did reclaim American citizenship.

Michelle Obama, in a speech given on August 26, 2008, during the Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado, stated his home country to be Kenya.

More recently, the transcript of the proceedings of the March 25, 2010 Kenyan parliamentary session alleges AKA was born in Kenya.

It seems the only people who refuse to look at facts are those "stupid Americans"; more specifically, however, a cabal of power elite (including lamestream media personalities) bent on keeping Americans in the dark about AKA's origins.

And, beyond all this, AKA has claimed he held dual citizenship at birth, making him ineligible to the office of president as dual citizenship does not equate to natural born, defined as having two American parents and born on American soil.

One of the ploys used by Marxists like AKA is to disparage equality of opportunity and offer up, instead, equality of outcome. People shouldn't be judged on their ability but on their need: from each according to his ability to each according to his need.

Under this mantra, no one should be allowed to make more, have more, do more than another; everyone should be equal in their passions, opinions and possessions under the mantra of the "common good" or community. Such also extends to their political rights under the Marxist ideal of "democracy."

So, with all that in mind, how is it exactly that any parent, enrolling their child in school, must produce the child's birth certificate but AKA does not have to produce his actual birth certificate, issued at the time of his birth, in order to sit in the Oval Office and live in the White House?

And how is it that LTC Lakin must arrive at his duty station, birth certificate in hand, but AKA does not have to produce his actual birth certificate, issued at the time of his birth, in order to sit in the Oval Office and live in the White House?

Oh, but you say, he has produced his birth certificate?

He has? You mean that computer generated, laser printed document with the "revised date" of 2001 in the lower right corner? That document that, if produced by the Department of Health, Hawaii, was printed after the 2001 revised date?

You mean that one?

That's not a birth certificate or a reasonable facsimile of one. That is a Certification of Live Birth (COLB) that Department of Health, Hawaii, has refused to authenticate as having been issued by them.

AKA's birth certificate, which he admits to having (so why the need for the COLB?), would have been issued at the time of his birth in 1961.

The COLB, pictures of which have appeared on the internet, is proof of nothing.

And those who have waved copies of it around, including Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly and Ron Paul have shown their ignorance in so doing.

The pictures of that document, including the one that showed up on the L.A. Times website (waved about by Bill O'Reilly and referenced by Ron Paul) have all been altered or forged. In the day and age of digital files, digital cameras, and photoshop programs, that is easy to accomplish. Just ask "Ducky," the author of at least one of the forgeries that has turned up on line that has been claimed by the Obamanoids as "authentic."

So, if we use AKA's standard of measure, that no one individual should be allowed to do what another is not, if LTC Lakin must show up at a new duty station, birth certificate in hand, then why is AKA being allowed to not show his?

And, if every other individual's education records are open to public scrutiny, then why should AKA be allowed to keep his secret?

And, if the government can authenticate that you really belong to your social security number, then why can't they authenticate that AKA's myriad of social security numbers (not a typo) are his?

Do you sense there is something wrong with this picture?

Join the millions of Americans, the numbers growing daily, who also see something wrong with this picture.

And what is wrong with this picture goes far beyond what is revealed here.

AKA calls those who would question his eligibility to the office of president "terrorists" and "racists", that they would dare question him; he having such a stellar record for truthfulness and all! Such a stellar record, in fact, that an accurate accounting of all the lies he's told is not to be had. Suffice it to say that if his lips are moving, he's lying.

And the lamestream media buffoons accommodate him, lick his boots, and put on display, for all to see, the hypocrisy of their now proud Marxist tradition in "journalistic" endeavor.

I mean really; how dare those people, those commoners, those "terrorists" think they have the right to know that the man sitting in the Oval Office, occupying the White House, is the legitimate president and commander-in-chief.

To boot, those who would dare question must be "racists"! Why? Because AKA erroneously claims to be "black". He's not, he's predominantly white with the other half predominantly Arabic of the slave trade variety. That is, if Barack Hussein Obama, the man listed on the COLB, is really his father. And we don't know that that's really the case either; we just haven't seen anything that points definitively to the other two suspects — Malcolm X and Frank Marshall Davis — being the more likely sperm donor.

The refusal of AKA to produce his birth certificate, the one he found amongst papers in his grandparents home in Hawaii while living with them, is not going to go away.

Nor is the fact that he is not the legitimate president of the United States.

And while the lamestream media may champion AKA's cause, the truth is going to come out. The American people are not going to be denied, nor should they be denied.

Every elected or appointed official, who has taken an oath to uphold the Constitution, to protect and defend it from all enemies, foreign and domestic, who has refused to address this matter, is complicit in the crimes committed by AKA against the American people.

Those who would scoff at, those who would make fun of, those who would denigrate people demanding to see AKA's actual birth certificate are their own worst enemy; for if the Constitution and Bill of Rights are irrelevant, then so is their freedom.

And, under AKA's own terms, if he should not have to show his birth certificate, then neither should anyone else. The next time some government official demands to see your birth certificate, tell them you want to see AKA's first. Try it and see what happens!

Oh, the hypocrisy of true democracy!

James Madison wasn't so stupid, after all:

"Hence it is, that such Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives, as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians, who have patronized this species of Government, have erroneously supposed, that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their political rights, they would, at the same time, be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions."

Dear Barack, "Either produce your birth certificate or be known, forever, for the hypocrite you are!"

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter188.htm