Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Side by side comparison! CLOB's

http://khow.com/cc-common/mlib/636/05/6 ... 975400.pdf

Originally Posted by At forums.hannity.com, ksdb

Here's part of Hawaii's Uniform Information Practices Act, which is their sunshine law that would allow Obama's records to be made public, because, as it says:

"Disclosure of a government record shall not constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy if the public interest in disclosure outweighs the privacy interests of the individual."

We ARE entitled to full disclosure.

Being legally entitled to disclosure and having the government record in hand are two very different things.

Originally Posted by Hawaii Uniform Information Practices Act

§92F-12 Disclosure required.

(b) Any provision to the contrary notwithstanding, each agency shall also disclose:

(3) Government records pursuant to a showing of compelling circumstances affecting the health or safety of any individual;

(4) Government records requested pursuant to an order of a court;

§92F-13 Government records; exceptions to general rule. This part shall not require disclosure of:

(1) Government records which, if disclosed, would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy;

(2) Government records pertaining to the prosecution or defense of any judicial or quasi-judicial action to which the State or any county is or may be a party, to the extent that such records would not be discoverable;

(4) Government records which, pursuant to state or federal law including an order of any state or federal court, are protected from disclosure;

§92F-14 Significant privacy interest; examples.

(a) Disclosure of a government record shall not constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy if the public interest in disclosure outweighs the privacy interests of the individual.

(b) The following are examples of information in which the individual has a significant privacy interest:

(1) Information relating to medical, psychiatric, or psychological history, diagnosis, condition, treatment, or evaluation, other than directory information while an individual is present at such facility;

(2) Information identifiable as part of an investigation into a possible violation of criminal law, except to the extent that disclosure is necessary to prosecute the violation or to continue the investigation;

(4) Information in an agency's personnel file, or applications, nominations, recommendations, or proposals for public employment or appointment to a governmental position, except:

(5) Information relating to an individual's nongovernmental employment history except as necessary to demonstrate compliance with requirements for a particular government position;

§92F-15 Judicial enforcement.

(a) A person aggrieved by a denial of access to a government record may bring an action against the agency at any time within two years after the agency denial to compel disclosure.

(b) In an action to compel disclosure the circuit court shall hear the matter de novo. Opinions and rulings of the office of information practices shall be admissible. The circuit court may examine the government record at issue, in camera, to assist in determining whether it, or any part of it, may be withheld.

(c) The agency has the burden of proof to establish justification for nondisclosure.

(d) If the complainant prevails in an action brought under this section, the court shall assess against the agency reasonable attorney's fees and all other expenses reasonably incurred in the litigation.

(e) The circuit court in the judicial circuit in which the request for the record is made, where the requested record is maintained, or where the agency's headquarters are located shall have jurisdiction over an action brought under this section.

(f) Except as to cases the circuit court considers of greater importance, proceedings before the court, as authorized by this section, and appeals therefrom, take precedence on the docket over all cases and shall be assigned for hearing and trial or for argument at the earliest practicable date and expedited in every way. [L 1988, c 262, pt of §1; am L 1989, c 192, §3]

§92F-15.3 Notice to the office of information practices. When filing a civil action that is under, related to, or is affected by this chapter, a person shall notify the office of information practices in writing at the time of the filing. The office of information practices may intervene in the action. [L 1998, c 82, §1]

§92F-15.5 Alternative method to appeal a denial of access.
(a) When an agency denies a person access to a government record, the person may appeal the denial to the office of information practices in accordance with rules adopted pursuant to section 92F-42(12). A decision to appeal to the office of information practices for review of the agency denial shall not prejudice the person's right to appeal to the circuit court after a decision is made by the office of information practices.

(b) If the decision is to disclose, the office of information practices shall notify the person and the agency, and the agency shall make the record available. If the denial of access is upheld, in whole or in part, the office of information practices shall, in writing, notify the person of the decision, the reasons for the decision, and the right to bring a judicial action under section 92F-15(a). [L 1989, c 192, §1]

[§92F-16] Immunity from liability. Anyone participating in good faith in the disclosure or nondisclosure of a government record shall be immune from any liability, civil or criminal, that might otherwise be incurred, imposed or result from such acts or omissions. [L 1988, c 262, pt of §1]

http://www.state.hi.us/oip/uipa.html

But in this case, law means nothing.

Whoever leans the hardest on Gov. Lingle and DoH Director Fukino controls the outcome.

[quote="[url=http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1216821]At forums.hannity.com, Roberts the man[/url]"][size=117]Barry knew he would have his eligibility questioned - the ink bleed through pre-dates the first challenge too, and Pay for play, thanks for pointing that out = Barry apologist meaningless drivel !

Link to Perkins Coie letter to Hollister warning that they would pursue santions including attorney fees .....
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http://209.197.9.46/e3m9u5m8/cds/s/17/m ... ee01d96442

$ 688,316.42 more in Perkins Coie fees
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http://209.197.9.46/e3m9u5m8/cds/s/17/m ... 6d2564c372

Barry also can't legally use the AG office to defend him according to this article below ! :

http://romanticpoet.wordpress.com/2010/ ... the-level/

Now that Bauer is safely tucked away in the White House, Obama has resorted to illegally using Justice Department attorneys to represent him in his ongoing battle to hide his questionable background from the American People.

The use of civil servants to further Obama’s coup d’etat is clearly illegal. Torm Howse, the co-founder, and National Board Director of United Civil Rights Councils of America says the statutory law of the United States Code is extremely clear, even often in multiple ways, that:
[list]a) the Attorney General cannot represent/defend Obama in any challenge that involves a question of his citizenship, for the relevant statutory laws mandate that the AG be on the prosecuting side against Obama, if the AG is involved, at all… In fact, whether intentional or not, Obama and Holder can be hit with “constructive fraud,â€

[quote="[url=http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1216821&page=2427]At forums.hannity.com, Trip[/url]"]SR 511[size=117]

Let's look at these persons involved in this Senate Resolution 511, a supposedly bi-partisan resolution that was voted on unanimously. The bipartisan resolution was introduced on April 10 by Sens. Claire McCaskill (D-MO), and co-sponsors:

• Patrick Leahy (D-VT)
  Tom Coburn (R-OK)
  Barack Obama (D-IL) Presidential Candidate
  Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) Presidential Candidate
  Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA).

There's One Republican only, Tom Coburn, and even two Democratic candidates from their busy primaries, involved in drafting this resolution, and it was led and sponsored by Democrat Claire McCaskill!

When was the last time we saw this sort of Democratic "reach across the aisle" for such a salute of "bi-partisanship"? NEVER! Certainly not at all since the election.

Bill S. 2678
At this time, it seems that Claire McCaskill was curiously a very civic minded person. Only 5 weeks before McCaskill sponsored SRes 511, there was another Senate Bill she sponsored. [b]Bill S. 2678 attempted to change article II, section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States with reference to the requirements of being a “natural born citizen,â€

The Bigamy of Obama’s Citizenship

THE PRESIDENT MUST HAVE LIFELONG ALLEGIANCE

Author: Sally Vendée
Date: may 5, 2010
Republished with permission of The Post & Email
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/05/05/ ... tizenship/

(May 5, 2010) — Following the publication of a previous editorial which explored the status of Obama’s citizenship and allegiance while he was aged 18 through 23, commenters argued that only his status at birth is of consequence in the argument of Article II eligibility. Attorney Mario Apuzzo explains:

“Natural born Citizenâ€

By now most of you have no doubt read the latest. I've only posted a snippet of the article below. Suddenly, the skies cleared and we have all been given the gift of truth. The rats just keep getting bigger and bigger and the stench stronger and stronger!

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=150125

BORN IN THE USA?
Hawaii governor announces 'exact' place of Obama birth
'The question has been asked and answered, and I think we should all move on now'
Posted: May 05, 2010
10:13 pm Eastern

By Joe Kovacs
© 2010 WorldNetDaily


Gov. Linda Lingle, R-Hawaii

More than a year and half after Barack Obama was elected commander in chief, the governor of Hawaii is now publicly voicing the alleged exact location of Obama's birth, saying "the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii."

The disclosure is believed to be the first time a state government official has declared the precise place where Obama was born, despite numerous other published claims, including some for a different hospital in Honolulu.

The remark came Sunday night when Gov. Linda Lingle, a Republican, was interviewed on New York's WABC Radio by host Rabbi Shmuley Boteach. (The subject was addressed at the 77-minute mark.)

"It's been an odd situation," Lingle said, referring to the continuing controversy over the disputed natural-born citizenship of Obama. "This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it's one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country.

"So I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that's just a fact and yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue and I think it's again a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this."

Make yourself a walking billboard! Wear the T-shirt that demands eligibility proof from Obama ...


The Kapi'olani Medical Center for Woman and Children in Hawaii is one of two Honolulu hospitals at which that President Obama is alleged to have been born.

Although the governor now claims she issued a news release stating Kapi'olani is Obama's birthplace, the actual release said no such thing, making no reference to Kapi'olani nor any other specific location of Obama's birth.

At the time of the 2008 election, the release featured the state's director of health, Chiyome Fukino, who said: "There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama's official birth certificate. State law (Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-1 prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

"No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii."

Months later, in July 2009, she added another comment: "I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."

Lingle's radio statement could add further confirmation that a long-form, hospital-generated birth ceritifcate still exists, despite a February report by Britain's Sky News which stated: "Authorities in Hawaii have provided an electronic record of Obama's birth because the paper copy was destroyed in a fire which wiped out much of the state's archives."

Ironically, the governor's pinpointing of the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children as well as her health director's previous public statements on the matter statement are in apparent violation of Hawaii state law.

In two separate telephone interviews with WND, Janice Okubo, the Health Department's public information officer, told WND that Hawaii law prohibited her from commenting on the birth records of any specific person.

Okubo cited Hawaii Revised Statutes Section 338-18, which pertains to "Disclosure of Records."

That section states regarding the release of vital statistics records, "The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record."

More than one hospital?

An intriguing aspect to the story is that Kapi'olani is not the only Honolulu hospital touted as Obama's place of birth. Another facility, the Queen's Medical Center, has also been mentioned as the actual site in numerous publications, including United Press International and the online, myth-busting site Snopes.com.

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

By now most of you have no doubt read the latest. I've only posted a snippet of the article below. Suddenly, the skies cleared and we have all been given the gift of truth. The rats just keep getting bigger and bigger and the stench stronger and stronger!

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=150125

You'll forgive me if I don't believe the truthfulness of this article. When the actual document, describing the actual details of Obama's birth is made public, then I will reconsider my opinion on this matter.

This is all academic anyway, due to the fact that Obama's alleged father was an alien, he will never be a 'natural born citizen' regardless of where he was born. Of course, it could be that the whole Barack Obama Sr. thing is bogus, and that Barack Hussein Obama's father was actually someone else as has been speculated many times.

Whatever the real answer is, Obama is a liar, usurper, and corrupt politician in my view. I'd like to be shown how wrong I'm in this view, but I don't have any high hopes that will ever happen.

Take Liberty Defense League's poll:


“Are States Doing Enough to Resist Federal Tyranny Within Their Borders?â€

Originally Posted by For WorldNetDaily, Joe Kovacs

More than a year and half after Barack Obama was elected commander in chief, the governor of Hawaii is now publicly voicing the alleged exact location of Obama's birth, saying "the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii."

"So I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that's just a fact..."

Now we know why Obama for America paid the Perkins Coie law firm $1.7 million between Oct. 15, 2008, and Mar. 31, 2009, after which the Dept. of Justice and the U.S. Attorneys took over the battle - at taxpayer expense - to dismiss the scores of lawsuits demanding proof of eligibility which would cost all of $10 at the Hawaii Dept. of Health. Suddenly the clouds open up, the sunshine bursts through, and we can see it all clearly now.





Now we know why... no, wait, it eludes me for the moment... can someone explain again why this was kept a deep, dark, top secret until just now? Hmmm? It wouldn't have anything to do with the Heidelberg printing press in Toronto and UV-curing the replacement document to make it appear 49 years old?

And can someone explain Mama Sarah's testimony that she was in the birthing room in the hospital when her famous [step-]grandson was born in Mombasa, Kenya, and that he is a "native of the village," Kogelo?

And why, since then, the Kenyan government has kept her under armed guard at her home near Kisumu, and barred western reporters from speaking with her?

And why the Kenyan people, celebrating their native son's victory as U.S. President, shut down Nairobi and most of the rest of Kenya the day after the U.S. election?

And why, at cousin Raila Odinga's behest, the Kenyan police held Jerome Corsi under arrest until his flight out of the country, after he sought Barack Obama II's birth certificate at two hospitals in Mombasa?

And why the Kenyan police declared Barack Obama II's medical records at those two hospitals "top secret," and placed armed guards there to keep them hidden from western reporters?

And why there are armed guards at the State of Hawaii Dept. of Health to keep prying eyes away from Mr. Obama's birth document in the Vital Records vault?

And why, after the 2004 Chicago debate, Dr. Alan Keyes said, "You're not even a natural born citizen," and Mr. Obama responded, "That's all right, I'm not running for President, just for Senate."

And why thereafter the U.S. lamestream media stopped calling him "Kenya-born Barack Obama" - even though the Weekly Standard in Nairobi continued doing so for awhile, and the AP newswire from ModernGhana.com in 2009 heralded the return to "the continent of his birth" by the "Kenyan born American," and the Kenyan parliament has recently, repeatedly, referred to him as a native Kenyan?

And why Pakistani intelligence reports originally listed (de facto) U.S. President Barack Obama as born in Kenya?

And why Madelyn Dunham, Mr. Obama's maternal grandmother in Hawaii, until she died was secluded from reporters who might ask embarrassing questions about where her grandson was born?

And why whistleblower Quarles Harris was murdered in Washington, DC, shortly after he contacted the FBI to testify about the tampering with Mr. Obama's passport file on the State Dept. computer database?

And why... no, we can't ask why the emperor STILL has no birth certificate. The U.S. Attorneys might come and bury us in legal actions.

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

And why... no, we can't ask why the emperor STILL has no birth certificate. The U.S. Attorneys might come and bury us in legal actions.

I'm certain your question is rhetorical, but the obvious answer is that we are no longer a free country in which our government works for us. We have been usurped by more than Obama - the whole federal system is now corrupt.