Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Originally Posted by Miki Booth

Manning: And I want your observation as well of the general policy of the Central Intelligence Agency during those years, prior years, and at present, would have been to do recruitment on college campuses, and to some degree, high school campuses as well. And if I would like to know if you are aware of the CIA ever having been involved in recruitment on college campuses, high school campuses as well, and whether or not you are aware of any public knowledge about the CIA involvement in supplying arms to the Mujahedin during the Soviet invasion.

Jones: Well, it’s all public now. The first answer is yes. I’m aware, through the research that I did, about college recruitment taking place with the CIA yeah, I’m very much aware of that. And it is in fact, I forget the gentleman’s name, but the person who was actually the head of Special Activities has long since come out and acknowledged that the CIA was involved in giving aid to the Mujahedin.

I will be keenly waiting to read how the Rev. Manning tracked Barack Obama II to CIA black ops among the Taliban!

The original COLB image at DailyKOS had barely perceptible traces of an embossed seal, but were they ever faint!
I circled those faint traces on this image, lest you be unable to find them.



Compare the FactCheck photographs, which had very prominent raised seals affixed onto their images, though perhaps not onto the paper. These are in "Polarik's Final Report, 11/22/2008," about midway, at "Feature #2: The Seal." (Also archived on Scribd)



In 2007, Hawaii Dept. of Health embossed seals were composed of lines and bars,



whereas earlier HI DOH seals were composed of points.

orlytaitzesq.com wrote, "Why didn’t he provide his Long Form BC? Why doesn’t he have a valid SS number?"

Here are Lou Dobbs, Congressman Ted Poe (R-TX), and a rude, disruptive Obot commentator on CNN in 2009.

http://www.youtube.com/v/8CYerDS8IGM

"If you can't win a debate, break it up, brawl it up, bust it up, or blow it up."
Was that Saul Alinsky or Abbie Hoffman?

Originally Posted by On Sept. 8, 2010, MinutemanCDC_SC

After Congress defunded ACORN, Mr. Obama re-funded - as an executive appropriation - the $4.3 BILLION earmarked for ACORN. To me, that is a clear violation of the U.S. Constitution, Art. I, § 9, ¶ 7(a): "No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law..." If Mr. Obama's Executive Orders are now reckoned as law, he should be reclassified as part of the legislature, the law-making branch of government, and removed from the law-breaking branch of government... I mean, the law-enforcing branch of government.

Congress did override the court that insisted Congress continue to fund ACORN, so Congress gives $0.

Bit I may have to retract my statement about the executive appropriation for ACORN.
I don't know what is the status of the Executive Order funding for ACORN. Anyone?

MinuteMan, you've been busy while I've been away. Many good posts.

Thank you, HighlanderJuan. Now it's your turn to take up the slack. Over, to you.

Originally Posted by [url=http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=219109

For WorldNetDaily, Drew Zahn[/url]]BORN IN THE USA?
D.C. rally boldly blasts Obama as 'fraud'
Eligibility attorney Berg motivates crowd to ask, 'Where's birth certificate?'
Posted: October 23, 2010 7:00 pm Eastern

By Drew Zahn
© 2010 WorldNetDaily


Oct. 23 eligibility rally (Photo credit: Dwain Currier)

A rally today at the U.S. Capitol pulled no punches in declaring President Barack Obama an "imposter" and "fraud" who should resign before a constitutional crisis of his own making rips apart the nation.

The rally was called by Philip Berg, a Pennsylvania attorney who runs the ObamaCrimes.com website and was the first to sue over allegations Obama is constitutionally ineligible to occupy the Oval Office.

"The main thrust of the rally," Berg told WND, "was to get out the continuing message that Obama is a phony, a fraud, an imposter, and [his eligibility to serve as president] is the biggest hoax committed against the U.S. in 234 years."

Berg believes there is enough evidence, both hard and circumstantial, to justify an investigation into whether or not Obama is a "natural-born citizen" as required by the Constitution to serve as president. Berg is looking for a court with "the guts" to demand Obama provide proof of his eligibility.

Berg told WND that though the crowd, which he estimated at a couple of hundred, was smaller than anticipated, he still considered the event a success – in part, because of what he hopes it will inspire.

"The feedback we received was that the attendees are going to go back and spread the word," he said. "Groups of six or so are planning to get together at intersections with signs that read, 'Where's the birth certificate?' At rush hour, those six people can get the message out to thousands."

"I think it was successful to that degree," he continued. "It was a step in the right direction."

Berg told WND he isn't pushing for Obama's resignation out of some right-wing venom – he's a life-long Democrat – or racism or hatred, but out of dedication to preserving the U.S. Constitution and out of concern about what will happen to the country if Obama continues his presidency and is discovered ineligible years down the road.


Philip Berg (Photo credit: Dwain Currier)

"My goal is to have a peaceful revolution before something worse breaks out," Berg said. "The sooner the better."

He continued, "Obama is walking all over the Constitution, destroying the Constitution through holding office while ineligible, through a health-care plan that is clearly unconstitutional, and he has plans for more unconstitutional actions. I'm doing this because nothing is more important to the U.S. than its Constitution."

Berg's initial emergency appeals to the U.S. Supreme Court when Obama first took office, like those of a number of other attorneys, were not accepted by the panel. He has one case pending, and it is being prepared for presentation to the high court now.

It alleges that, based on Obama's status as a student in Indonesia and the complete absence of documentation that he ever returned to the U.S. as a citizen, it is unlikely he is a "natural born citizen" as the Constitution requires of the president. Obama was registered in school as an Indonesian Muslim by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro.

Berg's case alleges further that without documentation that Obama preserved or regained his U.S. citizenship after be registered as an Indonesian as a student at school, he may not even be a "naturalized" citizen.

"Therefore, his term as a U.S. senator was a fraud. His salary and benefits should be returned to the U.S.," he told WND.

He says that if it weren't for the U.S. media, Obama would already have been exposed and removed from office.

"The media gave him a free ride," he said.


Oct. 23 eligibility rally (Photo credit: Dwain Currier)

"I'm hoping we can bring to the attention to the national media and the Congress the seriousness of this. The positive result I would like to see is that if the national media would cover this and Congress would pay attention, we could force Obama out of office," Berg said.

He said those who come to the rally are being asked to bring a copy of their own birth certificates. He described the assembly as a "Yes, We Can" event to empower the people to once again make determinations about their nation's future.

The problems with the issues Obama has addressed and the campaigns he's launched are important, Berg said.

"However, the most important issue is Obama not being 'constitutionally eligible' to be president," he said.

Berg's is not the only one who has challenged Obama's residency in the White House. A case is developing involving Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, who has questioned the legitimacy of the orders in the U.S. military under a president whose eligibility is under question.

Another case being handled by California attorneys Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation and Orly Taitz is on behalf of another presidential candidate and challenges Obama's inclusion on the ballot.

Yet another claims Congress failed to perform its constitutional obligations to investigate Obama.

There's even been a series of discussions about impeachment.

It appears that ATLAH has been hacked on the page hosting
"The Official C.I.A. Columbia Sedition and Treason Trial Transcript."

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UPDATE - the transcript (308 pp.) is online as of Oct. 24, 2010:
"The Official C.I.A. Columbia Sedition and Treason Trial (May 14-19, 2010) Transcript."

The Rev. Dr. James David Manning (acting as prosecuting attorney):
I wish to state that there are several charges within the indictment that we wish to delete immediately,
so that it might be easier for you to reach the decision to serve as a juror, and also to reach a verdict.
And those decisions, or those counts in the indictment, would be the count of-- I think count number
two, would be the act of treason, in the indictment- I'm sorry, count number one and count number two,
the act of treason. We're going to recommend at this hour that those counts would be [deleted] from
the indictment that was returned on the 24th of April, the year 2010. Also the count of espionage, that
would also have the same effect of a death penalty, that we wish at this time to not have the jurors
have to reach a decision on a matter that would indeed invoke the penalty for death. (p. 7)

But the other thing I said to the tea party people was ... that you should pursue him on the issue of his
natural born citizen status rather than his policies. Because obviously if you convict him of being guilty
of fraud, his policies go by the wayside. They dismissed that as an idea. But I also stated that if he's
found guilty of treason and sedition, that he should be executed. There a couple of things about that,
and obviously we've removed that from the indictment. But we wanted it read in open court that that
was a part of the indictment.
The CIA came to visit me here once I made that statement, I'm sure you've heard about it, Homeland
Security as well, members of the local police department came to support their visit to question me
about whether or not I had any intentions of executing Mr. Obama. So as I stated earlier, one of the
reasons why removing those penalties so that it can no way be construed that I plan to execute
him at the end of this trial. Is that clear?
I believe that his guilt warrants hanging by his toes and flogged until he's dead. I believe that. But
however, wisdom says to me to remove that because I've already been labeled in some little package
down in Washington and the CIA and the Homeland Security as some sort of a person who wants to
see the president dead. I want to state here at this trial emphatically, I want Mr. Obama to live a long life.
I do. And it's in my heart to say that honestly as I stand in this holy place where I preside as the Lord's
servant. I pray that no one will attempt to assassinate him or be successful in assassinating him. I want
him to live. And so I wanted to be clear that this is not about any attempt to destroy the man's life.
It's simply to restore our nation. That's what it's about. It's not about my anger towards him. (p. 48 )

Ms. Juror #14 _____:
Well if he is going to be found guilty, and I haven't heard everything you have to present yet, I have an
open mind, I think it is a horrible, horrible thing perpetrated on the American people if he is guilty of all
those things that were read today. I haven't heard all the charges yet. I knew some of the things through
the media, Internet, I have been following for some time. And yes, I would not have any problems voting
for that. If he's -- I mean if he's guilty and all those people with him, there's a lot of people guilty because
he alone couldn't have done this. There would be a lot of people involved. And you would have to, you
would have to give them all the death penalty. There would be a lot of dead people. (p. 54)

Day 1 . . . Day 2 . . . Day 3 . . . Day 4 . . . Day 5

Originally Posted by At forums.hannity.com, Jagergeist

I think this issue has been dead a long time, regardless of what SNL may chose to parody.

1,029,680 views at forums.hannity.com;

183,767 views of "Barack Obama's Citizenship Questioned" at ALIPAC.us;

3,437 posts at "Pravda Raises Obama Eligibility Issue";

untold number of views at Free Republic, but there are too many threads to track:
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../2275574/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2427104/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2051691/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2596750/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2534787/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../2611385/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../2601021/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2225726/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../2499870/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2567796/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2142129/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2460836/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../2517641/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2289990/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2291996/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../2519504/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2335508/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../2400981/posts

Then there are the active threads at
http://www.thepostemail.com/
http://orlytaitzesq.com/
http://canadafreepress.com/
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/
http://tinyurl.com/mapuzzo
http://www.puzo1.blogspot.com/
http://obamacrimes.com/
http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/...race-policies/
http://www.nyrocatv.com/forum.cgi?viewtopic=24350 and of course,
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/

Of course, if this Constitutional issue actually were dead, Jagergeist,
why would you need to write "a discouraging word" here? Defeatism?

This issue won't be dead until Mr. Obama is ousted from office,
tried and convicted for sedition, and
imprisoned for life without parole or pardon.

(Were it not for his exposure to classified information, deportation to Kenya would be in order.)

Here is over an hour of video recorded at Atty. Philip Berg's Eligibility Rally last Saturday at the U.S. Capitol.

http://thejaghunter.wordpress.com/



All of these people are either engaged in a
legal action against Obama or have publicly
expressed their support for people in legal
actions against Obama.
Lt. Colonel Terrence Lakin;
Major General Carroll D. Childers;
Captain Neil B. Turner;
Commander Charles Kerchner;
Lt. Commander Walter Fitzpatrick;
Captain Connie Rhodes;
Lt. Colonel David Earl Graef;
Major Stefan Frederick Cook;
Paul Vallely, Major General, USA (Ret);
Jim Cash, Brigadier General, USAF (Ret);
Harry Riley, Colonel, USA (Ret);
Michael A. Trudell, Captain, USN (Ret);
Harry Soloman, Lt. Colonel, USAF (Ret);
Carmen A. Reynolds, Lt. Colonel, USAF (Ret);
Debra A. Gunnoe, Lt. Colonel, USAF (Ret);
Greg Hollister, Lt. Colonel, USAF (Ret);
Richard C. Morris, Lt. Colonel, USA (Ret);
William Harker, Commander, USN (Ret);
Bill Little, Commander, USN (Ret);
John Johnson, 1st Lieutenant, USAF (Ret);
Luther B. Neff, Captain, USAF (Ret);
Fred Herndon, Captain, USAF (Ret);
Jerry Curry, Major General, USA (Ret);
Thomas McInerney, Lt. General, USAF (Ret).

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