Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Thank you for that article by Anthony Martin, HighlanderJuan. We owe William BIG TIME for protecting us from Obot lawyers/thugs.

I can't view it, but this is the N.Y. State court ruling on Strunk v. Patterson [Governor of New York]. I'm searching for the text of the Jan. 11, 2011, ruling by the N.Y. State court on the appeal, not the original case dismissed on Nov. 17, 2008.

This from a liberal blog:

The Constitutional Case for the Impeachment of Barack Obama

By: Quasit
Date: Tuesday January 25, 2011 8:36 pm
http://my.firedoglake.com/quasit/2011/0 ... ack-obama/

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.â€

Posted at http://www.citizens4freedom.com/Article ... #Comment58

MinutemanCDC_SC
Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:31 AM

Thank you, Citizens4Freedom. You are spot on with Part 1. Actually, Mr. Obama has spent more than $2 million to have at least 75 lawsuits and appeals dismissed. But since Jan. 20, 2009, he has been spending taxpayer money, not his campaign funds. He reported to the FEC paying his primary law firm, Perkins Coie, $1.7 million just for Q3 and Q4 of 2008 and Q1 of 2009. That does not include their bills for legal expenses during the past 22 months, although some of that is said to be pro bono. It also does not include legal expenses charged to the taxpayers by the U.S. Attorneys and staff, and by the U.S. Army and other military attorneys and staff.

Part 2 is easily verified as incorrect. Fulbright scholarships are indeed awarded to foreign students studying in the U.S., but NOT to undergraduate students. The "Soetoro" listed in California records of scholarship beneficiaries was not named "Barry". I was unaware that "Americans for Freedom of Information" was still circulating this misinformation, and they probably aren't. But feathers released from a pillow and carried by the wind are almost impossible to get back into the bag.

A similar misunderstanding is that he could not have traveled to Pakistan in 1981 on a U.S. passport, so he must have used a Kenyan or an Indonesian one. This is also incorrect. The U.S. Dept. of State discouraged travel to Pakistan on U.S. passports, but it was still legal and possible and done. A U.S. passport bearer visiting Pashtun country in NW Pakistan might very well never return, but it was possible for him to go.

What was NOT possible in 1981 was to travel from Karachi in Pakistan to Islamabad in India without originating the round trip in India and obtaining an Indian visa before entering Pakistan. Bill Burton, then Mr. Obama's press secretary, misspoke that Barack Obama II traveled to Karachi and from there to Islamabad, India. That was impossible in 1981. Actually, he traveled to Karachi and from there to Islamabad, Pakistan, a trip of about 50 miles. Pakistanis, who well know the difference between Islamabad, Pakistan, and Islamabad, India, were no doubt suitably unimpressed by Mr. Burton's knowledge of Pakistan.

"A natural born Citizen is a citizen born in the country of parents who are citizens [at the time of the birth]."
This definition from Emerich de Vattel's The Law of Nations was:

• the norm in Western Civilization dating back to Plato and Herodotus;
  used in correspondence among the Framers of the Constitution;
  quoted nearly verbatim in the U.S. Supreme Court cases The Venus, Shanks v. DuPont, Minor v. Happersett, Wong Kim Ark, and Perkins v. Elg, and never contradicted in any U.S. Supreme Court case;
  quoted by authors of Amendment XIV, U.S. Rep. John A. Bingham and U.S. Sen. Jacob Howard;
  and characteristic of every duly-elected President born since the ratification of the Constitution in 1787... except Chester A. Arthur, who even burned his Presidential papers to hide his father's Canadian citizenship, which status was only discovered in 2008 by Atty. Leo Donofrio's researchers.

Mr. Obama, on the other hand, was not only born in Kenya, but his mother was not yet 19, the age required in 1961 to confer her U.S. citizenship to her newborn child. His father (of record) was a Kenyan, a British Protected Subject, which status passed to all of his offspring. How could a newborn Barack Obama II, whose birth status was governed by British law, be a natural born Citizen of the United States? He was not even a U.S. citizen at birth. UNLESS he has been NATURALIZED (which would exclude him from being a natural born Citizen), HE IS NOT NOW, NOR HAS HE EVER BEEN, A U.S. CITIZEN!!!

HE'S A BRIT; HE'S NOT LEGIT!

http://tinyurl.com/mapuzzo

https://www.alipac.us/ftopic-137238-.html

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1216821

http://theconservativemonster.com/2010/ ... trial.aspx

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

[quote=MinutemanCDC_SC]

Originally Posted by At forums.hannity.com, ksdb":fzb4whgz][size=7]And now a list that will be most inconvenient to faithers ... 41 legislators in Arizona
who want to see a real birth certificate and not a jpg that is ignorantly presumed to be real.[/size]
[quote="Tucson Weekly":fzb4whgz][size=7] [url="http://www.tucsonweekly.com/TheRange/archives/2011/01/29/the-41-arizona-legislators-who-still-want-to-see-obamas-birth-certificate

http://www.tucsonweekly.com/TheRange/ar ... ertificate[/url]

...[Arizona] HB 2544, which will require the all of the following for presidental and vice-presidental candidates:

1. An original long form birth certificate that includes the date and place of birth, the names of the hospital and the attending physician and signatures of the witnesses in attendance.

2. A sworn statement attesting that the candidate has not held dual or multiple citizenship and that the candidate's allegiance is solely to the United States of America.

3. A sworn statement or form that identifies the candidate's places of residence in the United States for the preceding fourteen years.

C. If both the candidate and the national political party committee for that candidate fail to submit and swear to the documents prescribed in this section, the secretary of state shall not place that presidential candidate's name on the ballot in this state.[/size]

From what I understand there are other states proposing similar legislation.[/quote:fzb4whgz]
After 2½ years for many of us, going on 4 years for Atty. Philip Berg, and 6½ years for Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes, the immigration and eligibility flagship state of Arizona proposes HB 2544, an eligibility certification bill. But HB 2544 doesn't require citizen parents or true proof of natural born Citizenship... just a birth certificate, a sworn loyalty oath, and sworn testimony of fourteen years of residency. That means we have some writing, faxing, emailing, and calling to do.

State of Arizona Representatives:
Brenda Barton
Judy Burges
Chester Crandell
Jeff Dial
Karen Fann
Eddie Farnsworth
John Fillmore
Doris Goodale
David M. Gowan, Sr.
Rick Gray
Jack W. Harper
Peggy Judd
John Kavanagh
Debbie Lesko
Nancy McLain
Javan "JD" Mesnard
Steve B. Montenegro
Justin Olson
Terri Proud
Carl Seel
David Burnell Smith
David W. Stevens
Steve Urie
Jim Weiers
Kimberly Yee

State of Arizona Senators:
Sylvia Allen
Frank Antenori
Andy Biggs
Scott Bundgaard
Ron Gould
Linda Gray
Gail Griffin
Lori Klein
Al Melvin
Rick Murphy
John Nelson
Russell Pearce
Steve Pierce
Don Shooter
Steve Smith
Steve Yarbrough[/quote:fzb4whgz]

The situation in Egypt just threw a wet blanket over the momentum of the story, they love to find any reason they can to bury the issue.

[quote=[url=http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2011/01/obama-world.html]Lame Cherry[/url]]

Citizens4Freedom was posting information [about] B. Hussein Obama, and something caught my attention in a remembrance of Gram Obama of Kenya on the day Obama was born there.

The quote:

Originally Posted by "[url=http://www.citizens4freedom.com/Articles/tabid/1387/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/3502/Birth-Certificate--What-do-you-make-of-this.aspx

Citizens4Freedom[/url]":i1zyb3r2]On August 4, 1961 Obama’s mother, father and grandmother were attending a Muslim festival in Mombasa, Kenya.
Mother had been refused entry to airplanes due to her nine month pregnancy. It was a hot August day at the festival so the Obamas went to the beach to cool off. While swimming in the ocean, his mother experienced labor pains, so [she] was rushed to the Coast Provincial General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya, where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961. Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu, [receiving] a certificat[ion] of live birth, which omitted the place and hospital of birth.

[/quote:i1zyb3r2]
[size=117]What is interesting in this are two details. First is the hot day, and the second is the Muslim festival, in Chris Matthews terms. The reason for stating Chris Matthews is his search for Obama’s birth certificate and the need for hard facts. What I digress to is the devil is in the details . . . people who fabricate things from known "Gram in Kenya" stories will make mistakes, outing the story as a lie.

As an exclusive [to] this blog alone, I checked the two details out.



Temperatures in Celsius and winds in kilometers per hour

The first was the hot day. It was [27.8°C or 82°F] on August 4th, 1961. While that would not be considered hot, I checked the humidity and that was 83% in Mombasa with a 9 miles per hour breeze or basically it was calm. Kenya on the day B. Hussein Obama was born [would have been tropically] hot in the shade and quite uncomfortable in the sun.

The heat index in matching temperature to humidity would make it feel like 90 degrees Fahrenheit.

If one adds a baby Obama, placenta, fluid retention, Stan Ann would have experienced extreme discomfort as the child would have been radiating more heat from within.

Logic fits then that a woman so pressed would do anything like a cow on a hot day and run for the water for some relief, which would be a swim in the ocean, which women are counseled against, as even a bath will induce labor.



In point two, I did check and August 4th, 1961 was a Friday, which means it was indeed a Muslim religious day or their Sunday or Jewish Saturday.

So on the two points which would sink or [float] this account, the hard facts of the date match the story exactly. All lies and liars are lazy. They would not without an intelligence background go into details of second and third level knowledge of weather conditions or people’s names, as that is where lies become uncovered.

For the record on the points which would prove the story of Obama being born in Mombasa, Kenya, the facts at this point prove the story as woven in.

As a talking point, the 4 days mentioned would fit in a mother being discharged, would fit with a friend in the time window stating she saw Stan Ann in August of 1961 with a new baby, and fits with the current Neil Abercrombie “recorded birthâ€

The footprints actually look suspcious. They would suggest more then the standard infant toe curls and someone who's actually used there feet to some extent such as a young infant in a walker possibly.

But yah I'd laugh my butt off if it came out with a legit Kenyan birth certificate.

[quote="[url=http://mail.conservativecontacts.com/hostedemail/email.htm?h=8d161663f1469c95119032c037f9e85c&CID=7 924284029&ch=42BAE360C425ED93EBCBA6B2332B88AA]Dr. Alan Keyes[/url]"]Defiant Obama Ends US Rule of Law[size=117]

OBAMA ADMINISTRATION REFUSES TO OBEY FEDERAL COURT ORDER.

FEDERAL JUDGE RULES OBAMACARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL

ORDERS IMPLEMENTATION TO STOP IMMEDIATELY;
OBAMA DEFIANT -- CONSTITUTION DEAD

Just in time for Reagan’s 100th birthday, a Federal judge, (appointed by the Gipper himself), has ruled ObamaCare unconstitutional. Unlike previous judges, Judge Roger Vinson ruled that the entire ObamaCare law must be thrown out and IMPLEMENTATION HALTED IMMEDIATELY because the mandate requiring Americans to buy health insurance is unconstitutional and unseverable from the rest of the legislation. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SAYS THEY WILL NOT COMPLY and will continue to implement ObamaCare REGARDLESS of the Federal courts! A senior Administration official told the Wall Street Journal that the entire plan is still fully operational, nothing has or will stop, and the Department of Health and Human Services will continue to carry out the full ObamaCare plan.

While the Justice Department might file an injunction to petition court permission for Obama to legally continue implementing some of his healthcare scam, no such injunction has been filed. By failing to immediately halt ObamaCare implementation as ordered, this Administration is now actively DEFYING the Federal court system created to check the powers of an Executive branch gone tyrannical. While the Judge’s ruling is in fact a victory, the White House’s defiance represents a very dark day in American history. AMERICA IS IN CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS.

IT IS NOW MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER THAT WE TAKE A STAND.
DEMAND THE SENATE STAND WITH THE JUDICIAL BRANCH AND STOP OBAMA!
DEMAND IMMEDIATE CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS TO UPHOLD THE RULE OF LAW!

The Senate, if it is to uphold its oath of office and do its constitutional duty, MUST immediately CUT OFF ALL OBAMACARE FUNDING AND HOLD HEARINGS ON OBAMA'S REFUSAL TO GOVERN CONSTITUTIONALLY!!

WE MUST BEGIN THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS OF REMOVING OBAMA AND HALTING HIS DESTRUCTION OF OUR REPUBLIC!

The recent Federal court rulings and the successful U.S. House vote to repeal the morally odious, fiscally bankrupting and thoroughly unconstitutional ObamaCare legislation are vital first steps to restoring our nation. But it is only the start of the work we must do if America is to be saved from Socialism! Together, we must now HOLD the Congress accountable for substantive effects of this vote, begin in earnest to drive REPEAL in the SENATE (which IS achievable), and ensure that under NO circumstances, is ObamaCare FUNDED in any way, shape or form by legislation advanced through either the House or the Senate!

DEMAND THE SENATE STAND WITH THE JUDICIAL BRANCH AND STOP OBAMA!
DEMAND IMMEDIATE CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS TO UPHOLD THE RULE OF LAW!

Now GOP budget hawks are proposing a bill that would gut federal spending by $125 billion this year alone and by $2.5 trillion over the next 10 years. The Republican Study Committee (RSC) has just unveiled the Spending Reduction Act featuring these massive and essential specific spending cuts:

Overall spending CUT to 2008 levels, with discretionary spending CUT to 2006 levels.

Unspent “stimulusâ€

Proud North Dakotan Asks State Reps to Take On Eligibility Issue
22Share 0diggsdigg
CONSTITUENT EDUCATES STATE DELEGATION ON THE MEANING OF “NATURAL BORN CITIZENâ€

[quote="kathyet"]Proud North Dakotan Asks State Reps to Take On Eligibility Issue
22Share 0diggsdigg
CONSTITUENT EDUCATES STATE DELEGATION ON THE MEANING OF “NATURAL BORN CITIZENâ€