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    Quote Originally Posted by [url=http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=41213
    At humanevents.com, Adam Moreira[/url]]Those Kenyan villagers can't be trusted farther than they can be thrown...which unfortunately isn't very far. Have you ever heard of taqiyya?

    Mr. Moreira, have you ever heard of speaking the truth without twisting it to mean something else... or a lie?
    Taqiyya, or lying to benefit Is|am, would apply to those who claim that Barack Obama II was NOT born in Kenya, to avoid disqualifying for office the best dhimmi (subjected infidel) in the White House that Is|am has ever had.

    33 million Ugandans and 40 million Kenyans, including Peter Ogego, Kenya's Ambassador to the U.S., and Members of Kenya's Parliament, have almost unanimously acclaimed Barack Obama II as the "Kenyan-born" U.S. President. I say "almost", A.M., to prevent your anticipated counter with names of some individuals in Kenya who carry water for the impostor and cover for the usurpation.

    For example, the Odinga side of the government. Mr. Obama's cousin Raila Odinga has had Mama Sarah Onyango Obama under armed guard 24/7, off limits to western reporters, ever since she said (in Swahili), repeating it to eliminate any misunderstanding, that her step-grandson, Barack Obama II, was born in Mombasa, Kenya. She also said (in Swahili), "Barack ñate dhalani," that is, "Barack born of village," referring to her step-grandson - not Barrack Snr. - and her home village of Kogelo, near Kisumu. Speaking to Labor & Delivery caregivers and others at a UN conference on orphans, when she had never been outside Kenya, Mama Sarah said, "Even the U.S. President passed through my hands."

    Similarly in Honolulu, reporters and investigators were not allowed to speak to Barack Obama II's maternal grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, to the day of her death... the day before the 2008 elections.

    When it comes to their grands, grandmothers (almost) never lie. Politicians do.
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    Human Events may be jumping off the "don't ask, don't tell, don't hear, don't look, don't sniff around" bandwagon concerning Mr. Obama's Constitutional ineligibility for the Office of President, not being a natural born Citizen, i.e., a citizen born in the country of citizen parents. Human Events calls for a Congressional subpoena to get the truth and the facts.

    [quote="[url=http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=41213]Breaking news silence in this Jan. 16th article, [i]Human Events[/i][/url]"][size=117]Top 10 Obama Administration Investigation Targets
    by Human Events
    01/16/2011

    Rep. Darrell Issa (R.-Calif.), the new chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, has signaled he will conduct numerous oversight investigations of the Obama Administration. Here are the Top 10 areas ripe for investigation for Issa and other congressional Republicans:

    (1) ObamaCare: Any measure that restructures one-sixth of the U.S. economy bears scrutiny particularly when passage of the bill required legislative bribes such as the Louisiana Purchase and Cornhusker Kickback. To paraphrase Nancy Pelosi, now that ObamaCare has passed, let’s see exactly what is in it — and how it got there.

    (2) Stimulus: The American people deserve to know what they got for the $787 billion stimulus package that Obama signed in February 2009, including how much money was spent frivolously to publicize the legislation. And where exactly are all those jobs that the administration claims were “created or saved?â€
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    While it may all be well and true the question is when and IF any real investigation will be done. Even the Republicans know this issue is a very sensitive issue with many harsh reprecussions.

    1. Finding him invalid for POTUS means every single bill he passed and action he's done is null and void.
    2. It will warrant major investigations of all head leadership in the Dem Party and even the Republican party to a lesser extent.
    3. It also will bring about protests from significant minority crowds that will scream racist propaganda further alienating many minorities who would rather believe the racism against a *black* president.

    Bringing charges forth must be done with complete certainty beforehand to get any Republican political major support because if it falls through and is somehow evaded the quick spin is of course a racism against a black presient which will probably float with the minorities.

    Still I think this agenda needs to be moved to a #1 priority. Its a way to get our entire agenda done by 2013 elections when he's removed as we can also remove at least 20 key democrats between the house, senate, and some of the major democrat political names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReformUSA2012
    While it may all be well and true the question is when and IF any real investigation will be done. Even the Republicans know this issue is a very sensitive issue with many harsh reprecussions.

    1. Finding him invalid for POTUS means every single bill he passed and action he's done is null and void.
    2. It will warrant major investigations of all head leadership in the Dem Party and even the Republican party to a lesser extent.
    3. It also will bring about protests from significant minority crowds that will scream racist propaganda further alienating many minorities who would rather believe the racism against a *black* president.

    Bringing charges forth must be done with complete certainty beforehand to get any Republican political major support because if it falls through and is somehow evaded the quick spin is of course a racism against a black presient which will probably float with the minorities.

    Still I think this agenda needs to be moved to a #1 priority. Its a way to get our entire agenda done by 2013 elections when he's removed as we can also remove at least 20 key democrats between the house, senate, and some of the major democrat political names.
    Reform, given the serious potential repurcussions, I think the Repubs. would rather just see him go away quietly. The bills he's signed are an altogether different matter though. Could be very interesting times ahead that's for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasBorn
    Reform, given the serious potential repercussions, I think the Repubs. would rather just see him go away quietly.
    "Avert revolt at any price, even destroying the nation," is the logic of those who see We the People, Lex Rex, the Constitution, and a republican form of government as just a charade which alleviates the bitter yoke of serfdom under brute force, raw power, establishment authority, amassed wealth, and inherited divine right.

    Once one recognizes the component parts of democracy and freedom as nothing more than the tools of implementing control and the velvet glove covering the iron fist, protecting the sacredness of the elements that together constitute the framework of liberty ceases to be all that important. What is important is to maintain order and postpone revolt, avoid abrupt quality of life corrections by means of incrementalism, and not allow anyone to rock the boat. In the meantime, the wheels keep on turning and the money keeps on coming in...

    But patriots, dissenters, and diehards who cling to their guns, their Bibles, and relics documenting a form of government from centuries gone by, are either unable or reluctant to progress into a future which may be darker for them than for others. Such retrograde conduct necessitates that they be marginalized and isolated, starved out and their assets redistributed, imprisoned for perceived offenses, interned as a class of people who are enemies of the state or of progress, deported and banished to foreign colonies, or as a last resort, liquidated and purged.

    "Having seen the future, we have determined to detour around it on the way to a better destination."
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    Quote Originally Posted by At forums.hannity.com, Roberts_the_man
    [It] Was sufficient to state that the HDOH could NOT issue certified docs from the vaults, whilst neglecting [that is, while we neglected] to state that they also couldn't release info from [those same] docs in the vaults .......

    Roberts_the_man, I agree, but the wording is not precise, and a bit of fine print in H.R.S. § 338 has not been mentioned here.

    We say that the HI DOH cannot release birth documents without authorization by the subject or by certain of his relatives. More precisely, the HI DOH cannot release birth documents without authorization by the subject, unless according to rules passed by the Dept. of Health, for reasons specified by the DOH.

    DOH Director Dr. Fukino or HI DOH administrator(s) could (and indeed, should) pass or create a rule to publish, for reasons of national security and unity, an official, howsoever redacted, signed and sealed certified copy of Barack Obama II's original birth document(s) from the HI DOH vault. In other words, the authorities at HI DOH are empowered to override the subject's expressed will, in order to fulfill some need or purpose greater than the subject's privacy. The fact that they haven't and they don't doesn't imply that they couldn't and they can't. It indicates rather that they are stalling or stonewalling in order to hide something.
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    Please remember this... On Jan. 21st 2009, Barrack Obama (Barry Soetoro signed Executive Order 13489, which in return SEALED ALL PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS. Maybe on Jan. 19th a Judge could have released his Birth Cert., BUT, a Day Late, a Dollar Short.
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    It could still be voided easily and fixed but no court has the balls to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReformUSA2012
    It could still be voided easily and fixed but no court has the balls to.
    I believe you are right. And maybe for a reason similiar to that like they found that Colnel in the landfill over the holidays. Or if you remember some of the strange deaths while Clinton was in office (just sayin).

    There is A LOT OF MONEY AND POWER in Washington and if you get in their way it could be very hazardous.

    Same with these pharmaceutical companies or oil companies
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriotofPast
    Please remember this... On Jan. 21st 2009, Barrack Obama (Barry Soetoro) signed Executive Order 13489, which in turn SEALED ALL PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS. Maybe on Jan. 19th a Judge could have released his Birth Cert., BUT, a Day Late, a Dollar Short.
    PatriotofPast, we have discussed the distinction between "Presidential records" and "personal records." Even if Mr. Obama blurs that distinction, his claim of executive privilege applies only to official business conducted while in office, and not to personal information, personal business, or official business conducted after leaving office or before noon on Jan. 21, 2009.

    Of course, there needs to be a judge able and willing to force Mr. Obama to obey the law and play by the rules. So long as Mr. Obama controls the law enforcement sector, the handcuffs are on the judges instead of on the criminal. Only the Joint Chiefs of Staff have the power and authority to require lawful conduct of the outlaw executive to whom most law enforcement reports, and to bring law and order out of this Constitutional chaos.

    Although the authority of law may reside in other entities, such as the IRS, Inspectors General, independent Special Prosecutors, citizen Grand Juries, or the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia (which hears eligibility cases for officials in WDC), those entities lack the power of force to stand down a rogue Outlaw-in-Chief who has usurped control of the Dept. of Justice and the U.S. armed forces.

    Other entities had the responsibility to protect us from a foreign usurper with loyalties to other than the United States:
    • the Democratic National Convention and the Democratic Convention of each state in their duty to vet the candidates they propose;

      the Secretary of State, Governor, and Electors of each of the 50 states;

      the U.S. Congress and Pres. of the Senate Dick Cheney in their charge to contest and not confirm ineligible candidates for President and Vice President;

      the Marxist-socialist media (MSM) in its 4th Estate role to investigate and expose illegal, unethical, and anti-American actions by agents of the U.S. government;

      the church in her responsibility to pray for the nation (Jer. 29:7), for kings and all who are in authority (1 Tim, 6:4), and that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men; for not all have faith (2 Thes. 3:2).
    Those other entities failed. Unless We the People stand as one for the Constitution as the legitimate authority of U.S. government, and against the Kenyan Conman-in-Chief to deny him the illegal authority he has unlawfully seized by intrigue and fraud, who else will or can? The World Court? The Vatican? The UN?

    We the People, our lawfully elected representatives in WDC, the U.S. armed forces, the Federal Courts and Agencies, and the rule of law built upon the Constitution - these make up the government of the United States. The U.S. government is NOT just one foreign usurper who has insinuated himself upon the seat of power.
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