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    [size=117]On Sept. 29, 2010, Daniel Smith posted:
    How about sending a “shortâ€
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    [b]Congress operates much like the Mafia, except the Mafiosi are not paralyzed with fear when someone calls them “racistâ€
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    Quote Originally Posted by At forums.hannity.com, vinnie97
    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=314041 -
    Fox News Expert Denies He Claimed Barack Obama BC Legit

    Well, at least this woke up another soul about Faux News...
    Here is Mr. Tremblay's full disclaimer of his falsified testimony,
    which Ms. Winter twisted from a debunking into a verification.


    FOX News refuses to return his calls or to retract Ms. Winter's false story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome R. Corsi, Ph. D.
    'Rathergate' expert doubts Obama's birth certificate
    Typography pro played key role in ending career of CBS News anchor

    Posted: June 22, 2011

    By Jerome R. Corsi
    © 2011 WND

    The typography expert who played a key role in ending the career of CBS News anchor Dan Rather has told WND he has strong suspicions the Obama birth certificate released by the White House is fraudulent.

    Joseph M. Newcomer, who exposed the "Killian documents" as fraudulent in 2004, has told WND the Obama birth certificate released by the White House April 27 is a "highly suspicious" document that deserves professional forensic examination.

    "There is something deeply wrong here," Newcomer told WND. "There are artifacts in the birth certificate document that are strongly suggestive of a forgery. The document screams out that something is wrong."

    Continued . . .
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    Re: Project Gunrunner and Operation Fast and Furious
    Quote Originally Posted by [url=http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/21/issa-staffer-gunrunner-investigation-points-much-higher-than-atf-director/
    For The Daily Caller, Matthew Boyle[/url]]A staffer of House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa says Rep. Issa is aiming higher than acting ATF director Kenneth Melson. The Obama DOJ is now a primary target of investigations.

    Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton . . . [is] almost certain Project Gunrunner and Operation Fast and Furious were anti-gun agenda political ploys from the Obama administration.

    Former El Paso Intelligence Center (EPIC) director Phil Jordan said he thinks this scandal goes as high as Attorney General Eric Holder. From his decades of law enforcement experience working with Washington-based Justice Department officials, Jordan said he’s sure this kind of program would have needed approval from either the Attorney General or one of his direct deputies.
    Quote Originally Posted by a spokesman (for Rep. Issa?)
    The investigations are far from over....It’s quite certain that [acting ATF director Kenneth Melson] was not the principal architect of this plan nor the only high-ranking official who knew about and authorized this operation.
    If AG Eric Holder is implicated and forced to resign, that could be the break that unblocks the logjam in the justice system which has kept us from obtaining redress in the courts.

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/21/is...-atf-director/
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    Quote Originally Posted by At forums.hannity.com, sironin, an Obot
    Logical disconnect. A dual citizenship does not disqualify one from either being a NBC or being the President. US law does not acknowledge other nation's citizenship status as being relevant anywhere as a reason to disqualify someone from anything; it does explicitly allow for and permit it, unlike many other nations.

    The very nation(s?) that people posit him to have a dual citizenship with, on the other hand, would not allow him to retain a US citizenship if he had wanted to retain theirs. So the question of divided loyalties is completely moot at the outset as demonstrated by the complete lack of any official denunciation of US citizenship by Obama in favor of another.
    [quote="[url=http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=92000951&postcount=40557]At forums.hannity.com, Roberts_the_man[/url]"] US law is not what requires NBC status and it is the US constitution which requires it for the POTUS and VPOTUS in Article II ....

    Wrong of course since Waite in Minor vs Happersett w/o a doubt defines NBC as ........... :

    "At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar,
    it was never doubted that all children
    born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."
    [size=117]

    US law acknowledges the challenges that dual citizenship NOW creates ...


    [color=Blue]7 FAM 1111.4 Dual or Multiple Nationality
    (TL:CON-64; 11-30-95)
    a. U.S. nationals and citizens may possess dual or multiple nationality and owe allegiance to one or several foreign states. They may even have identified themselves more closely with the foreign state than with the United States, thereby calling into question the propriety of extending protection to them. Since each country establishes its own law of nationality, dual nationality cannot be eliminated, may result in confusion, and could complicate the ability of the U.S. Government to protect its nationals/citizens.
    b. The United States has no special arrangements with individual countries to “permitâ€
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    Atty. Orly Taitz has bumper stickers.



    In the following post by private investigator Neil Sankey, he claims that Mr. Obama got "his number" from Bernardine Dohrn. I disagree. Mr. Obama is on record as having used 39 SSN numbers; which one is "his number?" If Mr. Sankey means the 042-XX-XXXX number issued to a Connecticut resident, Barack Obama II assumed that SSN in 1977, at age 15. He owes that acquisition to his mother's mother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, who was a volunteer in the office of the Honolulu Co. Judge of Probate and had access to the SSNs of dead people.

    Barack Obama II began using that SSN eight years before he moved to Chicago in 1985, where he met Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.

    [quote="[url=http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=23147]P. I. Neil Sankey[/url]"][size=117]Hey Guys,
    From what I can see there is little or no doubt whatsoever that Mr BO got his number from Bernardine Dohrn. That is the business she was in. Remember the Brinks Robbery and the Weather Underground? They are all in this together, always have been. This chaos is their plan, their design, it is not a mistake.

    Remember the Clinton pardons? As Deputy Attorney General, Eric Holder, as The Washington Post explained, “was the gatekeeper for presidential pardons.â€
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    The following is a work in progress, to which I will add links.
    But I want to post it now, while it is being discussed.
    Quote Originally Posted by At forums.hannity.com, Jagergeist
    I have often thought that BC people should just dump the conspiracy theories that cause people to laugh at them, such as complex arguments about forgeries, and just focus on the limited issue about what a NBC is.
    The evidence of document counterfeiting or tampering is not complex to those who want to understand it. However, it is difficult to explain even obvious evidence to people whose ears are stopped up and whose eyes are squeezed shut. But let's try.
    • 1. No impartial expert witnesses on counterfeiting have been allowed to inspect the original, hard copy, vault Certificate of Live Birth which Dr. Chiyome Fukino claimed to have seen at the Hawaii Dept. of Health. All we have available to us are PDF files and JPEG images, which are susceptible to tampering or outright fabrication, and which therefore cannot prove even a genuine document to be true (but which can prove a fake document to be false).

      2. Compare the counterfeit to the genuine article, the Nordyke Certificate. The purported Certificate, dated 8/8/61 and offered on 4/27/11, doesn't look 50 years old. In fact, it looks like it was created only days before. Oh, look, it actually was! Document creation date: 4/11/11. *

      3. The counterfeit at whitehouse.gov manifests obvious fakery, which anyone can see by enlarging it with Adobe Acrobat or Illustrator.

      [list:2ggtjigh]a) The curvature on the left causes the pre-printed text to curve down, moving towards the left. However, the typewritten text does not follow the curvature of the paper - it is on a straight line, which indicates that the typewritten text was cut-and-pasted onto the counterfeit Certificate.

      b) Other concurrent Hawaii Certificates consistently show that fields on the left side begin at the left margin. But the whitehouse.gov counterfeit has left side fields either centered or beginning all over the place, which is not only inconsistent with valid Certificates, but which would have required many unnecessary keystrokes.

      c) The two Bates date stamps at the bottom, which read "Aug 8 - 1961", are not the same size. Hmm.

      d) Again, most of the characters in the date stamps are grayscale (256 shades of gray). But some of the characters are binary (black or nothing). On a photocopy, all characters of a stamp would be identical (grayscale or black). But in this case, the binary (black) characters are evidence of tampering with the computer image file, after the photocopy was made.



      In the Certificate Number at the upper right, the first six numbers are stamped with ink (binary), but the last number is computer-printed (grayscale).

      e) Some of the typewritten characters are pixel-identical. This is infinitesimally possible for just one pair of characters, much less for several identical pairs. The cloth ink ribbons used in 1961 impressed texture into typed characters, texture that points to copy-and-paste when two pixel-identical characters have identical textures.

      f) The counterfeit Certificate from whitehouse.gov has kerned "typewritten" text, which is a contradiction in terms. In kerned text, the letters are squeezed together horizontally. That is, the serifs (curlycues) of adjacent letters overlap each other. Adjacent letters sometimes share the space between them, like so:



      This has been commonplace since the introduction of word processors and dot matrix printers over 25 years ago. But in 1961, typewriters did not have this capability, not even the newly-introduced IBM Selectric.

      g) The whitehouse.gov counterfeit Certificate lists a different local registrar than the Certificates of the Nordyke twins, who were born in the same hospital the next day.

      h) The Nordyke twins had Certificates numbered 61 10637 and 61 10638, but the counterfeit Certificate is numbered 61 10641, even though the birth was a day earlier. This has been justified as filing by geographical area, and not just by birthdate alone. Maybe so. But it could indicate identity theft, illegally adopting the Certificate of Live Birth of Virginia Sunahara, b. Aug. 4, 1961, d. Aug. 5, 1961, at the same hospital.

      i) Some apparently identical typewritten characters, when enlarged 3X or more, display different typefaces. This demonstrates that the odd characters were copy-and-pasted digitally from physical text typed on a different typewriter, which constitutes document tampering.

      j) There are several "fractures" in the horizontal and vertical lines of the form. This indicates sloppy copy-and-pastes at low resolution, neglecting to precisely align the pasted pieces with the lines on the main form.

      k) The whitehouse.gov counterfeit Certificate was fabricated, not just photocopied. The counterfeit image was assembled from component parts: [list:2ggtjigh]the filing date stamp,
      the "Alvin Onaka" signature stamp,
      the pre-printed text along with the wireframe separating the fields,
      the green background with data whited out,
      the typewritten text along with the signatures,
      plus an addenda image which included bits of signatures, date stamps, and typewritten text.

    l) The whitehouse.gov counterfeit Certificate PDF file consists of nine layers, as one can verify by viewing it with Adobe Illustrator or Adobe Acrobat. A typical flattened PDF file has only one layer. A PDF file processed by the Optical Character Recognition (OCR) function in Acrobat has three layers, which are unlike the nine layers in the whitehouse.gov counterfeit Certificate PDF file.[/list:u:2ggtjigh][/list:u:2ggtjigh]But some people are so accustomed to the stench of corruption that they can no longer smell that something is rotten in Denmark.

    As for focusing on what is an nbC, I find it less amusing that Obamanauts should offer us tactical directions than that they would expect us to follow our opponents' advice.

    I appreciate your concern for our feelings, though, Jagergeist, and your efforts to keep people from laughing at us.

    * There are many excellent analyses of the whitehouse.gov counterfeit Certificate published on April 27, 2011. But don't get bogged down in the details. The absence of aging is absolute and incontrovertible proof that it is not a fifty-year-old document.

    Episode 1: http://www.youtube.com/user/orangego.../3/7s9StxsFllY
    Episode 2: http://www.youtube.com/user/orangego.../2/JT0Tpf1IhxA
    Episode 3: http://www.youtube.com/user/orangego.../1/9eJx7jsPV44
    Episode 4: http://www.youtube.com/user/orangego.../0/nW_PWzhgvDs

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/...h-certificate/

    https://docs.google.com
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    Adobe software creators and experts have too much invested
    in Adobe to deny their expertise for fear of Mr. Obama.

    Quote Originally Posted by [url=http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=314717
    For WorldNetDaily, Jerome R. Corsi, Ph. D.,[/url]]Adobe engineer doubts Obama birth certificate
    Concludes 'something digital came between the paper and the glass'


    Posted June 24, 2011

    Gary Poyssick, an early employee of software giant Adobe System Inc. ... has written more than 50 titles about Adobe software, the printing industry, coding and programming, website development and workflow management.

    "In conclusion, I cannot say the document is a forgery or that conditions could not have generated clipping masks in the PDF file I originally saw from the White House," he summed up. "Equally important, however, nobody can say it was an original."

    "The reality is that clipping masks are commonly used not to scan a document for preview or printing, but to merge or compose one or more images," he says in the final analysis. "It is – in my opinion and my opinion only – a document that was, in fact, merged from several originals."


    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=314717
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    Quote Originally Posted by [url=http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=23174
    Atty. Orly Taitz[/url]]I am asking my supporters to be patient and not pressure me till no end. . .

    Some people are sending hundreds of e-mails, demanding that I file a law suit in HI immediately, and these people are really driving me crazy. . . So, please be understanding. I will end up with a heart attack, as I am up from 3 am or 4 am.
    Dr. Taitz, thank you for the encouragement to pray to God our Heavenly Father, in the name of Y'shua ha'Mashiach [Jesus Christ], on your behalf:
    • for wisdom and practical common sense (street smarts),

      for adequate finances,

      for power and authority in your contacts with government authorities,

      for safety for you and your family, for protection from slander, and for courage,

      for health and strength and stamina and sleep,

      for inner peace and composure in the face of provocations,

      for clarity and effectiveness in spoken presentations,

      for comprehension by your hearers,

      for media opportunities where you are actually allowed to speak freely,

      for faithfulness to the fight and for protection against blackmail, intimidation, or compromise,

      for success, both in your legal actions against the usurpation, and
      in upholding and defending the Constitution of the United States,

      and for the victory of freedom over totalitarian communism and slavery to Is|am.
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    The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!

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