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    Jerome Corsi: Hawaii Provided No Actual Birth Certificate to Arizona

    5/28/12




    Jerome Corsi of WorldNetDaily (WND.com) has been in Hawaii with Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

    Joe Arpaio in an interview with Alex Jones:

    Hawaii did not verify the birth certificate on the Whitehouse website is accurate or that it is authentic or that any document looks like that.

    They didn't verify that. They didn't verify Obama was born in Hawaii.

    What they verified was that the information on the birth
    certificate displayed on the Whitehouse is information for which the Hawaii Dept. of Health has a record.

    That is all they said...

    It is very clever because the Hawaii Dept of Health said well we didn't tell you where we got the information or if the information in our record is correct. It could have easily come from the grandparents going in and
    registering a birth.

    I've always said the birth was registered.

    ...
    It is all a lie and a cover up. They got clever lawyers together to issue a non-verification verification.

    Don't show anybody anything and the compliant mainstream media will say 'Nothing to see here folks'.

    Jerome Corsi: Hawaii Provided No Actual Birth Certificate to Arizona



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    • At Butterdezillion's blog:

      HistorianDude says:
      January 22, 2012 at 10:31 pm

      No Kenyan official has ever said, “Obama’s birth records are locked up and marked 'top secret' in Mombassa but he wasn’t born here.”


      And no Hawaiian official has ever said (even indirectly) that President Obama’s birth record has ever been amended.


      • minutemancdcsc says:
        May 29, 2012 at 4:12 am

        It is not necessary for any Hawaiian official to say Barack Obama II’s birth record has been amended. It obviously should have been amended when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in 1965 or early 1966, after Lolo married Stanley Ann in March, 1965. Barack II’s name was changed to Barry Soetoro (Soebarkah).


        Then again, Barrack Hussain Obama, Sr., officially reaffirmed his fatherhood in Honolulu on or around Dec. 23, 1971, and immediately rendered Barack II over to Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, who raised him until he left home to attend Occidental College in 1979. If Barack II’s birth record were somehow not amended when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Indonesia, it would most assuredly have been amended when he was adopted by his mother’s parents in Honolulu.


        Barrack Sr. might have rendered Barack II over to his mother, if that would have been necessary or significant before the law. But Stanley Ann Dunham did not have custody of Barack II, and within a year or two, she returned to Indonesia without her son.


        As for your statement, “No Kenyan official has ever said, ‘Obama’s birth records are locked up and marked “top secret” in Mombassa but he wasn’t born here,’” I sincerely hope to cause you no offense. But were you in Mombasa in 2008, when Dr. Jerome Corsi was prevented from entering the Coast Province General Hospital by Kenyan police, who told him just that? On Oct. 7, 2008, minutes before he was to hold a press conference in Nairobi to announce the findings of his investigation, Kenyan immigration authorities grabbed him and held him incommunicado until the time for his flight. Then they deported him and told him, “Don’t ever come back!”


        Your word against Dr. Corsi’s, HistorianDude, and only one of you was there as an eye-witness. Since you have already been shown to be “mistaken” about the amendment of Barack II’s birth records accompanying his adoption in Indonesia (probably) and his adoption in Honolulu (certainly), most reasonable people will accept Dr. Corsi’s eye-witness testimony about his detention in Mombasa over your statement made upon your own cognizance.

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      Tallison Rausch says:
      May 28, 2012 at 1:42 am

      And why do you so readily believe foreign officials over American ones?


      • minutemancdcsc says:
        May 29, 2012 at 1:23 am

        @Tallison Rausch, your question makes a straw man assumption of the “When did you stop beating your wife?” variety, and it has a ring of insincerity, as if you are asking a trick question. But to treat your question with unwarranted dignity…


        I don’t know whom you are addressing as “you”, but for purposes of discussion, I will assume “butterdezillion”, unless you clarify to whom you directed your question. Speaking for a “you” made up of readers in general, concerning Mr. Obama, we believe American officials at least as much as foreign officials… EXCEPT for those tainted by threats, coercion, witness or judge tampering, and at the other extreme, by bribes, benefits, or payoffs from Obama rule.


        Foreign officials are generally less vulnerable to pressure from the Obama regime than American officials, who have been observed caving time after time – even U.S. District Judge David O. Carter, a Marine. The exceptions are Army Maj. Stefan Cook (dec’d.), Army Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, M.D., Marine Sgt. Gary Stein, CNN commentator Lou Dobbs, and others who have willingly paid the price of dissent from a totalitarian oligarchy, which is only part of the cost of freedom.


        “For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.”
        – Galatians 5:1 (ESV)
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    But would Pres. James Madison say that about the current usurpation?

    Brooks Bayne and donors to war@thetrenches.us have doubled the reward, from $10,000 to $20,000, for Barack Obama II's transcripts from Occidental College, Columbia Univ., or Harvard Law School.

    Update: 5/21/ 2012 – Due to additional support from the community we’re raising the bounty for Obama’s transcripts to $20,000.

    You’ve failed, media.

    You’ve had over three years to vet President Barack Obama. Yet in three years in office and over a year of campaigning beforehand, you have either been oddly uninterested or purposefully ignorant of Barack Obama’s educational history. You were, however, quite interested in George Bush’s transcripts.

    This uncharacteristic absence of curiosity about an American president alarms us. At $15 trillion, our nation’s debt is the highest it has ever been – and it keeps growing. We’re not convinced that Barack is as smart as you media elitists keep insisting he is.

    We therefore offer in reward $20,000 to anyone who provides the college transcripts of President Barack Obama. Occidental, Harvard, Columbia…any would represent more intellectual curiosity about the leader of the free world than the media has demonstrated since Obama won the Democrat primary.

    Upon obtaining any of these transcripts, please contact war[at]thetrenches[dot]us for verification and payment. This offer goes into effect immediately.

    Media, your stranglehold on the truth ends NOW. Let the vetting begin.

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    BTW, the usurpation is also playing keep-away with Barack Obama II's 1965 kindergarten registration at Noelani Elementary School in Honolulu. That is "Sutter's Mill" for prospectors for a certified copy of Barack Obama II's original birth document. The Hawaii Dept. of Health may be the corresponding "Fort Knox," but it is well-known that almost all of the gold at Fort Knox is long gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim Geiger for the L.A. Times
    May 23, 2012

    Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett has apologized for any embarrassment he caused his state... by requesting verification that the president was born in Hawaii.

    The apology came on the same day that Hawaii officials finally responded to Bennett’s request for “verification in lieu of” the birth certificate, which he said last week could be a precondition for placing Obama’s name on the Arizona ballot.

    “If I embarrassed the state, I apologize, but that certainly wasn’t my intent,” Bennett said Tuesday in an interview with radio station KTAR.

    Obama’s name will appear on the ballot “as long as he fills out the same paperwork and does the same things that everybody else has,” Bennett said.

    Still, Bennett – who insists he is not a member of the “birther” movement that continues to promote the unsubstantiated claim that Obama was born in Kenya and is therefore ineligible to be president – defended himself for making the request.

    “What is so sacred or untouchable about this question that you can’t even ask the question?” he said.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,3309012.story
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    Listen to Jerome Corsi and former New Jersey Gov. David Patterson square off on Obama's eligibility to serve in the White House.

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    WND EXCLUSIVE

    Corsi v. Gov. Paterson on eligibility

    Hear the great debate on Obama's background on WOR podcast

    Published: 1 hour ago

    David Paterson, the former governor of New York and now a talk show host on WOR radio in the city, says “evidence is coming left and right” about Barack Obama’s ineligibility to be president.

    But that doesn’t matter, he says.

    “It just doesn’t work for me.”

    His comment came after Jerome Corsi, author of the best-selling “Where’s the Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama is Not Eligible to be President,” spent nearly 40 minutes on Paterson’s program outlining the evidence that casts doubt on Obama’s claim to be a “natural born citizen” as the Constitution requires of presidents.

    Paterson invited Corsi onto the show after the former governor stirred up a hornet’s nest by suggesting Obama could be ineligible for the Oval Office and “got away” with it.

    Paterson also compared Obama’s actions to those of President Richard Nixon, which he likened to treason.

    On his show earlier this week, he was asserting, along with NBC Chief White House Correspondent Chuck Todd, that GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney should have distanced himself more from developer Donald Trump and his doubts about Obama’s eligibility.

    “Even if he wasn’t born in the United States, at this point, it’s kind of like he got away with it,” Paterson said.

    “A lot of people get away with a lot of things.”

    Paterson compared Obama’s actions to those of President Nixon.

    “We learned later that Nixon spied on Johnson’s Paris peace talks,” Paterson said. “That was actually an act of … uh … I mean it was against the interests of the U.S. government. You’ve got to say that before you would say it’s treason. But he got away with it. Decided it wasn’t a good thing to bring up at that particular time. Not only did he get away with it, he won the election.”

    The focal point of the dispute over Obama’s tenure in the White House has been whether he meets the Constitution’s requirement of being a “natural born citizen.” The term is not defined in the Constitution but most likely was considered by those who wrote it to mean the offspring of two U.S. citizens.

    Listen to the interview:



    Corsi outlined for Paterson the long list of evidentiary points: the statements logically traceable to Obama himself on a publisher’s brochure that stated he was born in Kenya, the testimony from a Chicago postman who was told the Ayers family was helping a “foreign student,” the continuing concealment of most of Obama’s records and others.

    Refuting Paterson’s claim that things like a brochure statement could be a “mistake,” Corsi said.

    “Well governor, I’ve got a good idea. If Barack Obama was letting his publicist for 16 years say that he was born in Kenya, maybe Barack Obama was telling this to the universities he applied to. Why aren’t we allowed to see records from Occidental College, from Columbia, from Harvard … whether he was a foreign exchange student.”

    Corsi continued with the evidence: no hospital has produced records Obama’s mother ever was a patient there, Sheriff Joe Arpaio has concluded there’s probable cause to believe the birth certificate image released by the White House is a forgery, and the growing number of Americans who doubt Obama’s word on the issue.

    Also, Obama’s history in Indonesia, the other names he was using, the names his mother was using, the Social Security number from Connecticut and others.

    The issue also has been shoved back into the headlines this week by multiple comments from billionaire Donald Trump, who earlier in the week blasted CNN for not reporting on the issue more accurately.

    The businessman told lead political anchor Wolf Blitzer the network would improve its dismal viewer ratings if it would only report the issue of Obama’s eligibility “accurately.”

    “Obama does not like the issue of where he was born,” Trump told Blitzer in the interview. “There’s something that bothers Obama very much. I will tell you: It’s not an issue that he likes talking about, so what he does is use reverse psychology on people like you. … He does not like that issue because it’s hitting very close to home. You know it, and he knows it – but you don’t report it accurately.”

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    Many media commentators believe Trump’s comments have put Romney in an awkward position. Romney has said he believes Obama was born in the U.S., but Democrats have criticized him for not distancing himself from Trump.

    Even Obama took aim at the pair by releasing a video “highlighting Mitt Romney’s failure to condemn Donald Trump’s over-the-line rhetoric.”

    “If Mitt Romney lacks the backbone to stand up to a charlatan like Donald Trump because he’s so concerned about lining his campaign’s pockets,” the Obama campaign said, “what does that say about the kind of president he would be?”

    Romney has refused to condemn Trump, saying, “You know, I don’t agree with all the people who support me. My guess is they don’t agree with everything I believe in. But I need to get 50.1 percent or more and I’m appreciative to have the help of a lot of good people.”

    For more than a year, Trump has consistently maintained he has doubts the Obama birth certificate released by the White House is genuine.

    As WND reported in March 2011, Trump said Obama’s presidency could be “illegal” if legitimate proof is not provided demonstrating he is indeed a “natural born citizen” of the U.S.

    Trump also wondered why no doctors or nurses have come forward to announce their presence at Obama’s birth.

    In March and April of 2011, Trump staged a weeks-long public campaign questioning Obama’s eligibility to be president, rising to the top of the pool of potential candidates for the 2012 GOP nomination as a result.

    “I always said I wanted to know if it was real,” Trump told WND senior reporter Corsi.

    During their conversation, Trump told Corsi his own computer expert told him that the image posted online was a computer-generated document.

    Then, in March, the famous billionaire heaped praise on Sheriff Joe Arpaio for the Arizona lawman’s probe into the authenticity of Obama’s purported birth certificate and his eligibility for office.

    Following the Maricopa County sheriff’s Cold Case Posse news conference March 1 in Phoenix, Trump personally penned a handwritten note of congratulations to Arpaio.

    Having printed out an Associated Press report of the event that featured a photograph of Arpaio, Trump penned diagonally in the upper left hand corner, “Joe – Great going – You are the only one with the ‘guts’ to do this – Keep up the good fight – Donald Trump.”

    Corsi also told WND an intelligence source in Hawaii who warned early last year that a forged Obama birth record would be released also is reporting a forged “original” birth certificate intended to pass forensic inspection by using 1961 materials is being prepared and could be released as an “October surprise.”

    The source, who has contact with Hawaii government officials, was questioned by Mike Zullo, the head of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse team. Zullo recently returned from a trip to Hawaii to follow up on leads in the posse’s investigation of Obama’s eligibility for the 2012 election ballot in Arizona. Arpaio announced March 1 that his team found probable cause that the document posted by the White House April 27, 2011, is a forgery.

    Zullo told WND that regardless of whether the Hawaii source’s information pans out, he wants to see the original microfilm record of Obama’s birth.

    “If they decide to try to produce a document, we’re going to be skeptical,” he said. “We’ve been calling for the microfilm from the beginning.”

    The Hawaii source said ink and paper from 1961 have been secured to create an “original” document that would correspond with the digital copy posted on the White House website.

    As WND reported one year ago, radical supporters of Obama have openly admitted their role in the forging of a Kenyan Obama birth certificate.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/obama-ine...eft-and-right/
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    I don't feel like throwing pearls before swine at politicalwire.com . But SFC Omar Rivera (USA-Ret.) of Puerto Rico is tearing 'em up and taking no prisoners.

    Quote Originally Posted by Omar Rivera
    Do you know your history? It does not matter if he was born in all 50 states at the same time, that does not make him a natural-born citizen which is the qualification to be POTUS.

    "On every question of construction (Constitution), let us carry ourselves back to the time when the constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p. 322.

    It is not what any one thinks the Constitution means, it was [what] the founding fathers meant it to be, and clearly we were told that if there [were] any doubts to go back and research what they meant. Now get of your mighty horse and do some research and find the truth!
    Quote Originally Posted by Omar Rivera
    Did you read [Obama's] book? Who did he say was his biggest influence? His mother, again do some research and you'll find that his mother was an activist socialist that didn't like her country, and that's why she left [the U.S.]. Like mother like son.
    Quote Originally Posted by Omar Rivera
    hamster999 did I say she left to give birth outside the U.S.? If you are going to quote me do it right, now who is [being] dubious? Again do some research on the founding fathers' writings, and you will see that both parents must be U.S. citizens and you must be born on U.S. soil to be a natural-born citizen, which is the qualification to be POTUS
    Quote Originally Posted by Omar Rivera
    You can call me whatever you want, but that's what people do when they are losing their argument. Unlike you [who] believe whatever your party tells you, I believe in the Constitution, because once you give one of your rights away to government, who is going to stop them from taking away more? Actually, I believe that there is not one decent politician in Washington for either party, and they all should be fired. Are we going to apply the Constitution selectively, and if we do, then what good is it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Omar Rivera
    YvonneofNC. That's the difference between you and those who seek the truth, I give you facts and you give insults. I am a Vietnam Era veteran, a Desert Storm Veteran, my father before me is a WWII and Korean Veteran, both of my children are veterans from Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom, and we all swore to uphold the Constitution of this great nation. What have you done for your country?
    Quote Originally Posted by Omar Rivera
    Whoa big boy, who sounds more angry and hateful, you or I?

    So I should give [up] my first amendment rights? Obviously you have never served your country and will never know what the words "Honor, Duty and Country" mean.
    Quote Originally Posted by Omar Rivera
    SFC U.S.A. Ret. 20 1/2 yrs. in service, Viet Nam Era Veteran, Desert Storm Veteran, [led] men and women in combat. That should tell you whom my allegiance is to. When I took the oath to serve, I swore to protect the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic: "I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962). The one being a traitor to [his] country is you. You do not want to accept the evidence in front of you. Again stop laying on the couch and read the Supreme Court Decisions and stop [being] a moron. I have fought for your right to ignore the Supreme Court's interpretation of the Constitution, but that doesn't mean that I must give [up] my constitutional right to rebut your stupidity.
    Quote Originally Posted by Omar Rivera
    Now again, do any of you know more about the Constitution than the Founding Fathers? Again I will post this, these are facts, not my words, and if you are so blind and do not want to see the truth because of politics, then there is no hope for any of you.

    Do you know more about the Constitution or the Founding Fathers?

    David Ramsay (April 2, 1749 to May 8, 1815) was an American physician, patriot, and historian from South Carolina and a delegate from that state to the Continental Congress in 1782-1783 and 1785-1786. He was the Acting President of the United States in Congress Assembled. He was one of the American Revolution’s first major historians. A contemporary of Washington, Ramsay writes with the knowledge and insights one acquires only by being personally involved in the events of the Founding period. In 1785, he published History of the Revolution of South Carolina (two volumes); in 1789, History of the American Revolution (two volumes), in 1807, a Life of Washington; and in 1809, a History of South Carolina (two volumes).

    In 1965, Professor Page Smith of the University of California at Los
    Angeles published an extensive study of Ramsay's History of the American
    Revolution
    , in which he stressed the advantage that Ramsay had because
    of being involved in the events of which he wrote and the wisdom he
    exercised in taking advantage of this opportunity. "The generosity
    of mind and spirit which marks his pages, his critical sense, his
    balanced judgment and compassion,'' Professor Smith concluded, "are
    gifts that were uniquely his own and that clearly entitle him to an
    honorable position in the front rank of American historians."

    In his 1789 article, Ramsay first explained who the "original citizens"
    were, and then defined the "natural born citizens" as the children born
    in the country to citizen parents. He said concerning the children born
    after the declaration of independence, "[c]itizenship is the inheritance
    of the children of those who have taken part in the late revolution;
    but this is confined exclusively to the children of those who were
    themselves citizens…." He added that "citizenship by inheritance belongs
    to none but the children of those Americans, who, having survived the
    declaration of independence, acquired that adventitious character in
    their own right, and transmitted it to their offspring…." He continued
    that citizenship "as a natural right, belongs to none but those who
    have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776…."
    Quote Originally Posted by Omar Rivera
    Obama said he was born in Kenya, now, that was a mistake by his publishing agent,
    his wife said he was born in Kenya, oops that was also a mistake,
    his grandmother said he was born in Kenya, oops another mistake,
    the ambassador from Kenya to the U.S. said he was born in Kenya, ooops, how many mistakes?
    People have been indicted by grand juries with less evidence than this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Omar Rivera
    Marco Rubio is not a natural born citizen and does not qualify to be President or Vice President of the United States. You are trying to associate me with the Republican party, which I'm not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Omar Rivera
    Remember one of the first quotes I posted from Thomas Jefferson? It is not what you or I or anyone thinks the Constitution means; [it] is what the Founding Fathers meant it to be, and they told us that if there were any questions, to research back [to] their writings to find their meaning, obviously something that the vast majority of the people are not doing. People are letting themselves get blinded by politics and are not interested in finding the truth, even if it cost all of us our freedom and our rights. I'm not asking you or anyone to believe me, all I'm asking is for people to do some research before calling anyone stupid, and search for the truth.

    First let me tell you that I am so sorry that you can't read, second all I hear here is One point I think, "it is not true, show me your facts," [yet] none of you have shown anything, whatever you all have left for brains have probably shrunk to the size of a pea. You are correct on that the Supreme Court has already clarified what a natural born citizen is, but you are completely wrong in your interpretation. If you have read the court decisions, now go and find Minor v. Happersett (1874) 21 Wall. 162, 166-168, and Perkins v. Elg (1939), read the Supreme Court decision and the explanation of what a natural born citizen is, and then we'll see who the idiot and the moron is, you are pathetic. Again I'm giving you facts, you are giving me zilch, and thanks to people like you. . . the country is going as they say down the pike.
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    http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...-long-form.pdf

    Quote Originally Posted by terjeanderson at politicalwire.com
    But don't you know, that is fake! The Republican ex-Governor of Hawaii is simply part of the giant conspiracy to pretend the Kenyan Muslim Communist was really born in Hawaii.

    What really happened is that Bill Ayres, the leadership of the American Communist Party and the Trilateral Commission selected a young half-black baby born in Kenya with a funny name as a future President, so they placed a fake announcement of birth in the local paper, got the state government to accept an obviously forged birth certificate, and immediately flew the young boy from Kenya to Indonesia, where he could be raised in a fundamentalist Islamic Communist madrassa.

    From then on, the fate was set. Ayres over saw the raising of the young boy, indoctrinating him in the way of Communism, educating him as a hard core American hating Muslim, and all around Manchurian candidate who was carefully groomed for the Presidency.

    Bill Ayers, of course, tutored him through school, used his terrorist connections to make sure he was admitted to Columbia and Harvard, helped young Barack claim he was born in Kenya in order to get admitted to university after the Bakke decision meant he no longer qualified for "affirmative action," wrote his exams for him, and edited the Harvard Law Review on Obama's behalf.

    Throughout it all, Ayers and Jeremiah Wright personally took charge of the conspiracy to claim that their young charge was born in Hawaii, not Kenya... bribing witnesses, forging documents, and coordinating a complex ring designed to further the lies.

    This was no mean trick, as Ayers was living underground as a fugitive during much of the period Obama was growing up.

    Of course Ayers went on to ghost write both of Obama's books, as well as secretly managing all of his campaigns, writing his 2004 Democratic Convention speech, writing his Inaugural address, authoring the health care law, fathering his children with Michele, and moving into the White House and serving as de facto chief of staff - while laying the ground work for the upcoming workers' revolution that will replace capitalism with a food stamp economy of collective farms and self-governing workers' cooperatives - with massive FEMA camps for those who resist the coming UN/Communist take-over, who are Christians, or who don't want to be gay-married.

    I'm sure that explains it all.

    Did I miss anything Ms. Taitz?
    Quote Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC
    Good grief, do you have to make up so much stuff, attributing it falsely to those who want the Constitution upheld, in your attempt to make them look foolish? It is not they whom you make look foolish.

    Actually, the forged Certificate of Live Birth explains itself in 11 pairs of letters and a pair of numbers (AA RR ss 22 aa ii SS nn ee uu ll tt)
    which don't match, indicating that they were cut-and-pasted from different documents typed on different typewriters, meaning, the purported Certificate of Live Birth posted at whitehouse.gov is . . . (wait for it) . . . a computer-fabricated forgery. What a surprise

    The obvious scenario, for those whose eyes are not squeezed shut, is that the missing Anna Obama, great with child, flew to Kenya in hopes that Barack Senior's family would adopt her baby. Rather than give birth in equatorial Kisumu in the heat of summer, she chose to await her time on the shores of the Indian Ocean in tourist-friendly Mombasa, also 2½ times the size of Kisumu.

    Kenya was soon to become independent of the U.K., and native Africans could just as well do without reminders of the European colonists. Hussein (Onyango) Obama, Barack Sr.'s father, was quite displeased to have his Luo bloodline diluted by a white and an Anglo, who represented a "colonial" to him. He did not want his descendants to include a mixed-race heir, so when Stanley had her baby, the boy child was not accepted. His face was not round, his skin was too light, his nose was not flat, his ears were not right, he was thin, not fat, his forehead was not sloping, his lips were too narrow, his chin was pronounced... and did I mention, his skin was too light to be half-Luo?

    Perhaps, in the delivery room in Mombasa, his step-grandmother, Mama Sarah Onyango Obama, thought, "This boy's not one of ours." Perhaps, somewhere near Kisumu, his grandfather, Hussein (Onyango) Obama, thought, "And we won't have him."

    Whatever they thought or said, Anna Obama quickly packed her old kit bag and kept on truckin' up to Nairobi and the international airport. Without a passport or so much as an FS-240 (Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen), she could not take her baby out of the U.K.. But she could travel from Nairobi to London (or Glasgow) to Toronto to Vancouver, with intermediate stops, and never have to show a passport for her British Protected Citizen baby. Meanwhile, Stanley Ann's mother was registering her grandson's birth in absentia at the Dept. of Health in Honolulu, making him a naturalized U.S. citizen in addition to a British Protected Citizen.

    From Vancouver, Stanley Ann was able to call her Mercer Island comrades to come and get her and bring her back to Seattle through some unattended back road border crossing. She wanted no further contact with Barack, Sr., and whether she flew to Honolulu at that time or not, by Aug. 19, 1961, she was settled in Seattle and taking
    night classes at the Univ. of Washington. She did not return to the Islands until some time after June 22, 1962, when Barack Obama, Sr., left Hawaii for Harvard. She deserted him, not he her.

    Feel free to poke holes in the above scenario and time line. But understand this beforehand: this scenario fits the known events, whereas every other scenario runs afoul of one or more known events. You have been notified in advance of your folly in imagining your own account.
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    "The Conservative Voice for Arizona" gave an insightful report on Judge Michael Malahi's hearing on Mr. Obama's Constitutional ineligibility for the Office of President, not being a "natural born Citizen," that is, "one born in the country of parents who were citizens," as interpreted by the U.S. Supreme Court, unanimously, in Minor v. Happersett (1875).

    Quote Originally Posted by Linda Bentley, reporting for the Sonoran News:
    FEBRUARY 8, 2012

    Georgia concludes Obama eligible for ballot as natural born citizen

    According to Malihi, children born to illegal aliens, tourists and/or terrorists
    are natural born citizens and eligible to become President


    ATLANTA – On Tuesday morning, Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp ([l]) issued a final decision, adopting Administrative Law Judge Michael Malihi’s initial decision contending President Barack Obama meets the eligibility requirements to appear on Presidential Preference Primary ballot.

    On Friday, Feb. 3, Malihi issued his decision in three challenges to Barack Obama’s eligibility.

    During the Jan. 26 hearing Malihi noted neither Obama nor his Attorney Michael Jablonski appeared or answered and said ordinarily the court would enter a default judgment against a party that fails to participate in any stage of the proceeding.

    “Nonetheless, despite defendant’s failure to appear, plaintiffs asked this court to decide the case on the merits of their arguments and evidence,” wrote Malihi, adding, “The court granted plaintiffs’ request.”

    Malihi (l) also said, “By deciding this matter on the merits, the court in no way condones the conduct or legal scholarship of defendant’s attorney, Mr. Jablonski,” and stated his decision was based entirely on the law as well as the evidence and legal arguments presented.

    His order was in two parts.

    The first part addressed plaintiffs David Farrar, Leah Lax, Cody Judy, Thomas Malaren and Laurie Roth, represented by Attorney Orly Taitz.

    The second part addressed all the plaintiffs, including those represented by Taitz as well as plaintiff David Welden, represented by Attorney Van Irion, and plaintiffs Carl Swensen and Kevin Powell, represented by Attorney Mark Hatfield.

    In Part I, Malihi basically discredited the eight witnesses and said he found their testimony, as well as the exhibits tendered, “to be of little, if any, probative value, and thus wholly insufficient to support plaintiffs’ allegations.”

    He stated, “None of the testifying witnesses provided persuasive testimony,” and said none of the written submissions had any probative value.

    In conclusion, Malihi stated, “Given the unsatisfactory evidence presented by the plaintiffs, the court concludes that plaintiffs’ claims are not persuasive.”

    In Part II, Malihi addressed the claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States and is, therefore, ineligible to run in Georgia’s presidential primary election.

    Malihi said he considered, for the purpose of analysis, the following facts: 1) Obama was born in the United States; 2) Obama’s mother was a citizen of the United States at the time of birth; and 3) Obama’s father was never a U.S. citizen.

    It was the plaintiff’s contention, because Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth, Obama is constitutionally ineligible for the office of President of the United States. Malihi said, “The court does not agree.”

    Citing a 2009 Indiana Court of Appeals case, Arkeny (sic) [Ankeny] v. Governor of Indiana, in which plaintiffs argued “there’s a very clear distinction between ‘citizen of the United States’ and ‘natural born citizen’ and the difference involves having [two] parents of U.S. citizenship, owing no foreign allegiance.”

    Pointing out the Indiana court rejected the argument that Obama was ineligible, Malihi stated, “[C]hildren born within the United States are natural born citizens, regardless of the citizenship of their parents,” and said, “This court finds the decision and analysis of Arkeny (sic) [Ankeny] persuasive.”

    While plaintiffs argued the term natural born citizen was defined in 1875 in Minor v. Happersett, Malihi said the Indiana court explained that Minor did not define natural born citizen.

    He went on to say, “In deciding whether a woman was eligible to vote, the Minor court merely concluded that children born in a country of parents who were its citizens would qualify as natural born, and this court agrees. The Minor court left open the issue of whether a child born within the United States of alien parent(s) is a natural born citizen.”

    Citing United States v. Wong Kim Ark, with which the Indiana court agreed, Malihi said the court extensively examined the common law of England in its decision and concluded Wong Kim Ark, who was born in the United States to alien parents, became a citizen of the United States at the time of his birth.

    Malihi stated, “The Indiana court determined that a person qualifies as a natural born citizen if he was born in the United States because he became a United States citizen at birth.”

    He wrote, “For the purposes of this analysis, this court considered that President Barack Obama was born in the United States. Therefore, as discussed in Arkeny (sic) [Ankeny], he became a citizen at birth and is a natural born citizen,” and concluded, “President Barack Obama is eligible for the presidential primary election under O.C.G.A. § 21-2-5(b).

    Using Malihi’s analysis, anyone born in the United States is a natural born citizen.

    In other words, according to Malihi, children born within the United States to illegal aliens, tourists and/or terrorists are natural born citizens and are, therefore, eligible to become President of the United States.

    Malihi’s conclusion is more analogous to saying: All dogs are mammals and all cats are mammals and therefore, all cats are dogs.

    Over the weekend, Taitz filed a petition with Kemp to set aside the recommendation issued by Malihi and find Obama ineligible to appear as a candidate for President of the United States on the Georgia ballot.

    Taitz cited a 2000 Georgia case, Haynes v. Wells, which she said establishes the precedent “that a candidate seeking to hold office through an election in the state has the affirmative duty to prove their eligibility.”

    Taitz said a 2008 Malihi decision in O’Brien V. Gross, from which she quoted, “The burden of proof is entirely upon respondent to establish affirmatively his eligibility for office,” relied on Haynes.

    Since neither Obama nor Jablonski appeared, Taitz asked, “On what basis did Judge Malihi consider Obama to be born in this country? Did he consider him born in this country based on his wild imagination? The only thing Obama provided was an empty chair. Did the empty chair testify under penalty of perjury in front of Judge Malihi … that Obama was born in this country? Did the empty chair provide Malihi with any evidence, with the original birth certificate or a certified copy?”

    Taitz went on to state Malihi's reliance on Ankeny “is a travesty of justice and an embarrassment to the state of Georgia.”

    Taitz stated Malihi was required to base his decision on what was in the record and his introduction of an obscure Indiana case was used to advocate for Obama rather than judge the case on the record at hand.

    Hatfield sent a letter to Kemp via e-mail prior to Kemp issuing his final decision to point out “several significant flaws in Judge Malihi’s findings and conclusions.”

    On behalf of his clients, Hatfield requested that Kemp render a decision that treats Obama no different than any other candidate seeking access to the Georgia ballot that fails and refuses to present evidence of his or her qualifications for holding office and disregards the authority of our judiciary.

    Now that Kemp has issued a final decision in the matter, Hatfield stated, “[W]e are going full bore and taking it up on appeal.”

    Irion has also indicated his client will be filing an appeal.
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    Video: 'Birther' gets visit from Secret Service

    Men in suits ask him about family, weapons, searching his home

    Published: 36 mins ago by Drew Zahn


    A Texas man and skeptic of Barack Obama’s eligibility to serve as president has posted a video on YouTube revealing two investigators, reportedly from the Secret Service, questioning him at his home.
    Rudy Davis, known also as “LoneStar1776″ on YouTube.com, posted video of the inquiry the day after he had uploaded another video in which he suggested Obama, after being convicted of treason for usurping the highest office the land, be executed for his crime.

    When two men in dark suits showed up at his door the next day, Davis told them, “I think I know why you guys are here.”

    Video of the exchange shows Davis explaining his belief that Obama is ineligible to be president and clarifying that he only wished the judicial system to execute Obama “once he has been convicted in a court of law.”

    “OK,” the first investigator replied, “but you don’t mean to assassinate him?”

    “No, sir,” Davis replied. “I don’t want to hurt anybody. I just want truth and justice in America.”

    Show members of Congress how many others demand “truth and justice” in America in the name of constitutional integrity.


    The investigators then began a series of “pertinent” questions they explained were required because, “We do have a job to do,” including the following:


    • “Have you ever been in the military?”
    • “Any handgun training, martial arts?”
    • “Do you belong to any groups or associations?”
    • “Have you ever traveled out to see the president?”
    • “Do you have any criminal history?”
    • “Do you own any weapons? All your weapons are registered?”
    • “Have you ever been hospitalized for mental [illness]? Family history of mental illness?”
    • “A possible search of your home – are you OK with that?”
    • “In the past year, how many places have you traveled to?”
    • “Do you have any siblings? Would you mind telling me who they are? What about parents? Can we talk to them?”
    • “Where do you work?”


    Multiple times the investigator also asked, “Do you understand that threatening to harm someone is a crime as well?”

    “I understand that,” Davis said, “but I have not threatened to harm [anyone].”

    In Davis’ previous video, which presumably prompted the investigation, Davis had cited the example of England’s Oliver Cromwell beheading King Charles I as an example of what should be done to Obama.

    “Once [Obama] is convicted in a court of law,” Davis said, “we don’t need to send him off to prison, we don’t need to send him out of the country, we need to behead him publicly.”
    Why publicly?

    “To show everybody that’s what happens to you when you come in to America and you lie and you forge and you fraud and you take over commander in chief when you know you’re not eligible,” Davis explained. “America doesn’t put up with that.

    The first video, in which Davis advocated beheading, can be seen below:

    video: Public Beheading - YouTube

    At one point, one of the investigators said, “We’d prefer if you didn’t film us,” but Davis asserted it was his property and his right to do so.

    Still, in yet a third, follow-up video, Davis discounted the idea that the agents were attempting to be “intimidating.”

    “They were very nice and cordial, and they were doing their job,” Davis said.

    Davis also concluded, “Promoting the truth is a patriotic thing, even if it brings the Secret Service to your door.”

    Does anyone really know where Obama is from? Find out the startling truth from New York Times best-selling author Jerome Corsi.


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