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    February 19, 2012

    Ron Paul Frontrunner in Washington

    Kelly Haughton
    Tacoma Political Buzz Examiner

    Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul took a four-city tour through the state of Washington with stops in Vancouver, Seattle, Spokane and Richland. He was greeted with large enthusiastic crowds at his rallies in each city. In each city, organizers are working to get the attendees to become participants in the March 3 Republican caucus in the state.

    His mostly volunteer campaign workers have a larger presence in Washington than any other Presidential candidate. They have been out doing nuts and bolts politics by identifying Ron Paul supporters, teaching them how to participate in the caucus process and encouraging them to get out on March 3. In this process, they have been reaching out to independent voters who previously have not thought of themselves as Republicans. The Ron Paul campaign is growing the Republican Party in the state of Washington.
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    In 2008, Paul took 21% of the caucus vote in a four man race in the state of Washington. This year, the Paul campaign seems far more organized and to have far more supporters preparing for participation in the caucus process. In 2008, only 12,320 people participated in the caucus. If that many participate this year, given the turnout for these recent rallies, Ron Paul should win the state of Washington.

    None of the other Republican Presidential candidates have near the presence in the state and no where near the enthusiasm for their candidate. It appears as if Romney, Santorum and Gingrich are focused on Super Tuesday and are leaving Washington to Paul.

    Given the lack of a contested Democratic nomination this year, many independents are likely to attend the Republican caucus. These voters will be overwhelmingly Ron Paul supporters in the large counties of King and Pierce. Paul carried Clark (Vancouver) and Spokane counties in 2008 and is expected to do so again.

    March 3 looks like a big night for the Ron Paul campaign, if they get their supporters to the caucuses.

    Ron Paul Frontrunner in Washington - Tacoma Political Buzz | Examiner.com

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    Sign Wave in Wasilla, Alaska! - Freezing for Freedom

    Submitted by AlaskansForLiberty on Sun, 02/19/2012 - 20:07

    We had a sign wave in Wasilla (yes Sarah Palin's home town) today and there was probably like 15 people there!

    Which is good, considering it was probably around 10 degrees (wind chill included).

    Alaskas Ron Paul community is abuzz right now!











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    Seattle Times: Former Obama Supporters Look to Ron Paul for Hope and Change in 2012

    Some former Obama supporters look to Ron Paul for hope and change in 2012

    Posted by Elizabeth Hunter on February 12, 2012 at 6:30 AM

    Ron Paul is not expected by most observers to win many, if any, of the Republican 2012 primaries or caucuses. From Day One, his campaign has made it their goal to win enough delegates to be a king-maker for the GOP convention’s nomination process.

    One state where Paul had an excellent chance to win was Maine, which held caucuses all week that culminated last night. In the end, it appears Mitt Romney eked out a narrow win, capturing 39% of the vote to Paul’s 36%.

    That Paul narrowly lost in a state that went very blue for Barack Obama — the Democrat won 57% of the vote there — in the 2008 general election is no surprise for many of Paul’s supporters. Among Paul’s fans are “Blue Republicans,” voters who have traditionally been Democrats but find Paul appealing.

    In Colorado earlier this week I spoke with Jerry Denney, vice chair of the Pueblo County Republicans. Denney told me about his experience with former Obama supporters at the Pueblo County fair, where the Republican booth drew a crowd.

    “It was like a confessional,” he said. “So many people came over to talk about how they regretted voting for Obama, and they wanted to tell me their story.”

    Ron Paul supporters Eliza Fas and Nick Shoupe in Denver, CO (Photo by Illona Idlis/ UW Election Eye)


    On Tuesday, at a Denver caucus in a predominantly Democratic neighborhood, I asked registered Republicans whether they had friends who had voted for Obama. All of them said yes. Betsy Welty, a volunteer at the District 2 caucus, and “the lone Republican of all my friends,” said that though her friends had not attended the caucus as registered Republicans, they were not going to vote for Obama this year. When I asked her why, she just said, “the economy.”

    Could it be true? Were significant numbers of people defecting from the Obama camp after just one term? I set out to find these former Obama supporters in person. I didn’t have to look far.
    In Denver, my UW Election Eye colleague Ilona Idlis spoke with Nick Shoupe and Eliza Fas, both caucusing for Paul, who said they voted for Obama in 2008. They were “enamored” with his excellent speaking skills and “they didn’t want four more years of another neo- conservative in office.”

    Over the past four years, Shoupe and Fas came to regret their decision. They noticed the costs of education and housing go up. Then the healthcare bill passed. And the final straw came when President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act, which includes a section allowing indefinite detention of U.S. citizens if the government suspects them of terrorist activity.

    Shoupe started researching Paul and particularly liked his foreign policy — what he saw as a commitment to ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the “War on Drugs.” This, said Shoupe, is why he voted for Obama in the first place. He says he wishes he had been more informed about Paul four years ago.

    Here in traditionally liberal Seattle I found Obama-turned-Paul supporters. Jennifer Willoughby, a lifelong Seattle resident and employee at Bishop Blanchet High School, has turned her support to Paul in 2012.

    Ron Paul campaigning in Nevada (photo by Illona Idlis/ UW Election Eye)


    She considers herself a “socially liberal libertarian,” who voted for Obama in 2008 because she agreed with many of his campaign promises.

    “I thought he was going to get us out of the war, and stop torture,” she said. “He was a breath of fresh air.”

    But Willoughby said Obama has strayed from his promises. Her husband, a longtime Paul supporter, urged her to investigate Paul for herself. At first she was skeptical because she’s never been a registered Republican, and none of the other Republican nominees said “anything that made sense to me.”

    “But Paul says the things that are in my heart,” Willoughby said. She sees him as consistent, both in words and actions, citing a voting record that aligns well with his spoken positions.

    In Maine, Paul almost knocked off Romney, but he’s in last place overall among the candidates in GOP delegate counts. What will these Blue Republicans, who are as disenchanted with Romney, Rick Santorum, and Newt Gingrich as they are with Obama, do if Paul loses his bid for the Republican nominee?

    At least one of them was sure. “I won’t vote at all,” said Eliza Fas.

    Some former Obama supporters look to Ron Paul for hope and change in 2012 | Seattle Times Newspaper

    FROM BLUE TO RED STATE.... WOOOOO HOOOOO GO RON PAUL

    Related: RONVERTS: Breaking Up with Obama, Rebounding with Ron Paul
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    Armed Chinese Troops in Texas!

    This talk is called "Imagine" and it was given by Ron Paul on March 11, 2009. The original text of the talk is below:

    Imagine for a moment that somewhere in the middle of Texas there was a large foreign military base, say Chinese or Russian. Imagine that thousands of armed foreign troops were constantly patrolling American streets in military vehicles. Imagine they were here under the auspices of "keeping us safe" or "promoting democracy" or "protecting their strategic interests."

    Imagine that they operated outside of US law, and that the Constitution did not apply to them. Imagine that every now and then they made mistakes or acted on bad information and accidentally killed or terrorized innocent Americans, including women and children, most of the time with little to no repercussions or consequences. Imagine that they set up checkpoints on our soil and routinely searched and ransacked entire neighborhoods of homes. Imagine if Americans were fearful of these foreign troops, and overwhelmingly thought America would be better off without their presence.

    Imagine if some Americans were so angry about them being in Texas that they actually joined together to fight them off, in defense of our soil and sovereignty, because leadership in government refused or were unable to do so. Imagine that those Americans were labeled terrorists or insurgents for their defensive actions, and routinely killed, or captured and tortured by the foreign troops on our land. Imagine that the occupiers' attitude was that if they just killed enough Americans, the resistance would stop, but instead, for every American killed, ten more would take up arms against them, resulting in perpetual bloodshed. Imagine if most of the citizens of the foreign land also wanted these troops to return home. Imagine if they elected a leader who promised to bring them home and put an end to this horror.

    Imagine if that leader changed his mind once he took office.

    The reality is that our military presence on foreign soil is as offensive to the people that live there as armed Chinese troops would be if they were stationed in Texas. We would not stand for it here, but we have had a globe-straddling empire and a very intrusive foreign policy for decades that incites a lot of hatred and resentment towards us.

    According to our own CIA, our meddling in the Middle East was the prime motivation for the horrific attacks on 9/11. But instead of re-evaluating our foreign policy, we have simply escalated it. We had a right to go after those responsible for 9/11, to be sure, but why do so many Americans feel as if we have a right to a military presence in some 160 countries when we wouldn't stand for even one foreign base on our soil, for any reason? These are not embassies, mind you, these are military installations. The new administration is not materially changing anything about this. Shuffling troops around and playing with semantics does not accomplish the goals of the American people, who simply want our men and women to come home. 50,000 troops left behind in Iraq is not conducive to peace any more than 50,000 Russian soldiers would be in the United States.

    Shutting down military bases and ceasing to deal with other nations with threats and violence is not isolationism. It is the opposite. Opening ourselves up to friendship, honest trade and diplomacy is the foreign policy of peace and prosperity. It is the only foreign policy that will not bankrupt us in short order, as our current actions most definitely will. I share the disappointment of the American people in the foreign policy rhetoric coming from the administration. The sad thing is, our foreign policy WILL change eventually, as Rome's did, when all budgetary and monetary tricks to fund it are exhausted.
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    Peter Thiel Emerges As Ron Paul's Biggest Super PAC Backer; Bill Gross Next?



    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 02/20/2012 13:43 -0500

    While it has been well-documented by now, that even as the campaign of Mitt Romney continues to be funded exclusively by Wall Street legacy firms, that of Ron Paul is largely in the hands of the US military. Yet when it comes to the recently infamous SuperPAC, things have changed. Because as Politico reports, of the roughly $3.4 million total in cash raised by the pro-Paul group Endorse Liberty since its founding on December 20, none other than PayPal cofounder and Clarium Capital chief Peter Thiel has donated $2.6 million. So as the renegade financier, whose opinion on Ben Bernanke and the gold standard is well-known to Zero Hedge regulars emerges as a primary backer of all that is wrong with the status quo, and the Ben Bernanke way of monetary suicide, we wonder who is next? Actually, scratch that: Bill Gross has already made his opinion well known vis-a-vis Ron Paul's candidacy. Isn't it about time the Newport Beach multibillionaire reached into his back pocket and put his money where his mouth is, especially following his tongue in cheek endorsement of Ron Paul for president?

    From Politico:

    PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel donated another $1.7 million in January to the super PAC supporting Ron Paul’s presidential bid, according to documents released Monday.

    Theil, a billionaire who runs the hedge fund Clarium Capital, has donated a total of $2.6 million to the pro-Paul group Endorse Liberty since it was founded on Dec. 20.

    The full document can be found here (10MB pdf, take some time to load).
    As for Clarium, which as recently as 2009 was exposing the sham that is the modern monetary and fiscal ponzi, here is a must read letter from the hedge fund from early that year, with a choice extract below:

    Frank Baum wrote an illustrated children’s novel called The Wonderful Wizard of Oz in 1900. It captured the popular imagination and was turned into a movie in 1939. Today the book and the movie are remembered for the entertaining story, the iconic characters, and the imaginative fantasy world of Oz. Less appreciated are the historical context and political overtones of the story dealing with the struggle around the gold standard and the battle between inflation and deflation.

    The yellow brick road is an obvious reference to the gold standard: a golden path that keeps one safe and delivers one to the prosperity of the Emerald City so long as it is faithfully followed. In the section, “Follow the Yellow Brick Road,” this essay describes how Ben Bernanke has carefully designed the policy response to avoid inflation. One can fancifully think of it as a twenty-first century version of a “fiat money gold standard” that attempts to solve our economic crisis and deliver us to prosperity by staying on a path of monetary responsibility.

    At the start of her journey on the yellow brick road, Dorothy describes the dreary poverty of her home in Kansas to the Scarecrow. Upon hearing her description he tells her he can’t understand why she would want to leave Oz and return to “the dry, gray place you call Kansas.”

    Dorothy replies, “That is because you have no brains. No matter how dreary and gray our homes are, we people of flesh and blood would rather live there than in any other country, be it ever so beautiful.

    There is no place like home.” Popular culture remembers the final sentence, but forgets the context. Baum was poking fun at Midwesterners who idealized farm life even though the future lay in the migration to the cities. In the section, “There’s No Place like Home,” this essay explains why repairing the financial system will not lead back to Goldilocks. The previous Goldilocks regime was not a happy equilibrium, but instead a highly leveraged and indebted state of affairs. Even a complete restoration of the supply of credit will not forestall a deflationary contraction in its demand. Wherever the path of policy and events will take us, it will not be the “home” of an untenable prosperity where private credit grows faster than our economy.

    When Dorothy and her companions arrive at the Emerald City, it appears at first that they have found a utopia of prosperity and good governance. Eventually, however, they learn that the Emerald City is based on lies. The city is not really made of emerald; it only appears green and sparkling because everyone in the city wears goggles that distort their view. Furthermore, the Wizard lies about his abilities in order to maintain power. He means well, but he is a fraud.

    Nevertheless, so long as everyone goes along with the charade life is generally good for its inhabitants. The Emerald City represents Washington, DC. In the section, “The Emerald City,” this essay describes the political challenges of changing the policy to be more inflationary. Even if the fear of deflation widens the ideological perspective, politics both at home and abroad may limit what can be done. An angry middle class will demand that Congress tighten its purse strings, while America’s largest foreign creditor will strive to protect its dollar assets.

    By 1900, Baum was able to satirize the politics and economics of the 1890s lightheartedly. When William Jennings Bryan gave his famous speech, the nation had given up any hope of reaching a state of Goldilocks and was instead locked in a struggle between choosing inflation or deflation. Because Bryan lost his presidential bid in 1896, the US stayed on the gold standard. Yet to everyone’s surprise, after 1897 adherence to the gold standard was no longer deflationary and instead began a period of mild inflation that lasted until World War I.

    New gold discoveries combined with improvements in mining and refining technology enabled the gold supply to expand steadily, which caused prices in the United States to rise between 2% and 2.5% per year from 1897 until 1914. Baum published his novel at the beginning of a new Goldilocks regime. Unfortunately, the situation in 2009 is the mirror image of 1900. We are at the end of a long Goldilocks regime that has led to substantial imbalances and indebtedness, and we are only beginning to come to grips with the new economic and political realities.

    One final parallel with the novel is worth noting. Although the character of the Wizard is probably meant to represent President McKinley, in today’s context it is easy to reinterpret him as Ben Bernanke. In the novel, the Wizard could give Dorothy’s companions what they sought – brains for the Scarecrow, a heart for the Tin Man, and courage for the Cowardly Lion – because they already had those qualities. Much like a central banker in normal times, the Wizard mainly needed to supply confidence. But Dorothy’s case was different. When Dorothy asked the Wizard to send her home, he was unable to help her. Unlike the Wizard, Bernanke is honest and capable. But like the Wizard, what is required may lie beyond his abilities. Who today will provide Bernanke with the magic he needs?
    Full letter: at the page link; bottom of the page

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    Inspired Anonymous Donors Pledge *Another* $15,000 in Matching for Georgia Super Brochure Mailing - Deadline Midnight Tonight!

    Submitted by po14015 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 14:56

    Thank you everyone for meeting the Idaho Super Brochure challenge!!!. Thanks to the generosity of an anonymous donor, mailings to Idaho were doubled, and the entire state was mailed.

    Due to this incredible showing, another group of inspired buyers are willing to match another $15,000 to mail Georgia. Georgia is a Super Tuesday state, and the mailing deadline is tonight!

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