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    Ron Paul vs Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama - Judge Andrew Napolitano 2012-01-04



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    Ron Paul Gains Unstoppable Momentum in Battle for GOP Delegates

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    Crash course in Ron Paul for new supporters

    Submitted by Zef on Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:53
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    Ok, first off, this is for supporteers that did not watch the debates. I know watching the whole thing is painful, but, There are several highlight videos of this on youtube. This is why the powers that be want control of the internet. They are looking for the ability to erase history. We CANNOT allow that to happen.

    Chapter One
    In this video, Ron Paul defines conservative, and makes a couple of subtle complaints about his rivals.

    Ron Paul Defines 'Conservative' For Brian Williams - YouTube

    Notice that they change the subject immediately at the end of the video. They are talking about starting a world war three. Is that what you really want?

    Chatper 2
    In this video, you will hear Ron Paul explaining EXACTLY what is wrong with the economy. If you understand some of the technical terms used, you will begin to understand what part of the problem is. To gain a full understanding of why this is predictable, you will have to read 3 books. Human Action by Ludwig Von Mises, The Road to Serfdom by F.A. Hayek, and End the Fed by Ron Paul. To understand what is said, just read End the Fed.

    Ron Paul (LIKE A BOSS): HERE'S THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HOUSING BUBBLE - YouTube

    Some of you will get what was said here right away.

    Chapter 3
    In this video, you will hear what the Ron Paul forgien policy will be like. We have this thing we like to use called diplomacy. I know it might be a bit of a strange concept, but there is nothing wrong with trying to get along with other nations and other people. If they want us to leave them alone, we will. If you attack us, we will fight back. Otherwise, don't invade us and we won't invade you. Perhaps we can trade resources?

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    Chapter 4
    Here is a video that is the truth about Ron Paul. It contains several predictions, and references to the Founders. Hope it does not upset anyone.

    Do you want this man to be the 45th President of these united States of America? - YouTube

    Quite Frankly, it seems pretty difficult to disagree with this guy.


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    Ron Paul Terrifies the Red and Blue Team

    By Raven Clabough
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    May 8, 2012

    Contributed by Wide Awake News

    GOP presidential contender Ron Paul has shocked mainstream media outlets and the GOP with some upset victories in recent weeks. Ron Paul supporters have managed to win a majority of delegates in states like Nevada, Maine, Iowa, Louisiana, and Massachusetts at district caucuses.

    In several of those states, the delegates are not bound by the popular vote, which means they can vote for Ron Paul at the convention, regardless of who emerged victoriously at the primary caucuses.


    What does all this mean for the Texas constitutionalist? The Huffington Post notes, “Paul can be nominated from the floor in Tampa by a plurality of five state delegations.”

    The Des Moines Register adds, “Paul must have a majority of support from at least five state delegations. With states like North Dakota, Minnesota and others on track, his supporters could then attempt to nominate from the floor.”

    In other words, Ron Paul is not entirely out of this competition.

    There are approximately 30 states and territories wherein delegates are not bound to a particular candidate, regardless of the popular vote. Most states require delegates to be bound by the popular vote in just the first found of ballots, but not in the rounds that follow.

    “The dirty little secret is: At the end of the day, these guys and gals can vote any way they want,” asserts one anonymous Republican who has attended numerous national conventions. “Each state has different laws on pledged delegates.”

    Likewise, in some caucus states, the results that were being reported out of the state causes meant nothing, as they were virtually nonbinding straw polls coupled with precinct-level caucuses.

    For many of those states, the real decisions come out of district caucuses and state conventions, wherein the delegates are chosen for the national convention.

    Salon notes that it is at those district caucuses and state conventions where Paul supporters may have the last laugh: “For the Paul forces—who lack the numbers to win statewide primaries but have the devotion to pack any room, anywhere, at any time—it has offered an inviting loophole.”

    The article concludes that Romney may discover at the Tampa convention that he does not have the 1,144 delegates needed to secure the nomination, “thereby allowing Paul to extract major concessions or even steal the nomination for himself.”

    Ron Paul also has some delegates at the convention cleverly disguised as Mitt Romney delegates. And those who are disguised as Romney delegates could opt to abstain during the first round of voting in Tampa. If Romney does not win in the first ballot, those delegates could then become unbound.

    And before the GOP calls foul, the establishment would do well to remember that Ronald Reagan considered a similar tactic in 1976 against Gerald Ford.

    An article entitled “Reagan Forces May ‘Steal’ Ford Votes” read, “In secret strategy sessions, Reagan aides have toyed with the idea of asking delegates to abstain as long as their state laws require them to honor the primary verdicts.

    This would prevent the president from riding up an early-ballot victory. Then, in subsequent ballots, they could legally switch to Reagan.”

    And in 2008, more than 10 delegates refrained from voting at the Republican national convention.

    Sensing that victory is all but Romney’s, the GOP has resorted to some dirty tricks. The Republican National Committee has already threatened that it may refuse to permit the entire delegation for Nevada to be seated at the national convention.

    In a letter to Nevada’s GOP Chairman Michael McDonald, the RNC’s chief counsel John R. Philippe Jr. states that if Ron Paul delegates are allowed to take too many slots at the convention, Nevada’s entire delegation may not be seated in Tampa.

    According to Phillippe, Jr., who admits that his letter is not binding, “I believe it is highly likely that any committee with jurisdiction over the matter would find improper any change to the election, selection, allocation, or binding of delegates, thus jeopardizing the seating of Nevada’s entire delegation to the National Convention.”

    But the Las Vegas Sun has its own take on Phillippe’s letter:

    Clearly, the RNC fears that mischief at the Sparks convention this weekend could result in Ron Paul delegates taking Mitt Romney slots and then not abiding by GOP rules to vote for the presumptive nominee on the first ballot in Tampa.

    So they are trying to force McDonald to ensure that actual Romney delegates fill 20 of the 28 national convention slots, thus removing any mystery of who they will vote for.

    After Paul’s victory in Maine, the Romney campaign sent top lawyer Benjamin Ginsberg to challenge the results. Ginsberg, who also served as George W. Bush’s lawyer in 2000, is infamous for helping to secure the Florida recount, which lead to Bush’s presidency.

    In some states, the GOP caught on to the delegate strategy of the Ron Paul campaign and attempted to foil that strategy. In Maine, for example, the Romney campaign circulated a fake list of supposed Ron Paul delegates.

    Reports indicate a similar strategy was attempted in Maine, which have some wondering whether this was in fact a coordinated effort.

    What is it that frightens the GOP so much about Paul?

    It is because he is one of the few people in a position of power who wants to use that position to limit the power of the government.

    Unlike the Neocons and Marxists that have infiltrated the Parties, Paul does not subscribe to the notion that the government knows what is better for us than we do, does not believe in the bullying tactics of the majority, and does not believe that the powers that be should run roughshod over the Constitution—a rare governing document which has secured rights for the individual that are not open to the interpretation and the whims of the majority or of the political elite.

    Ron Paul is dangerous to the current political infrastructure that has taken both parties decades to create because he knows the two party system is a facade, and he is exposing it.

    He recognizes and has told us that the fight is not between Democrats and Republicans, not between rich and poor, blacks and whites, heterosexuals and homosexuals….it is the political elite against the rest of us.

    At one time, the government feared the people. As Thomas Jefferson noted, that is when the people are most free. Instead, we have tiptoed into a state of tyranny, when we are now in fear of our government. Ron Paul seeks to change that, and for that reason, he must be stopped.

    But rather than allow Paul’s ideas to compete in a legitimate arena against their own, both Parties, particularly with the help of the mainstream media, have sought to stifle Paul’s voice. And they continue to try.

    It’s quite possible, however, that the time has come for the liberty doctrine, for which Ron Paul is the leading advocate, to prevail.

    But without Paul’s delegate strategy, he would have had virtually no chance. The GOP saw to it that he was boxed out of the political process.

    Still, nothing is certain, and some contend that the efforts of the Paul campaign are for cosmetic concessions. Despite all of the recent developments regarding delegates, some analysts still believe that the Ron Paul supporters will simply serve as a significant presence at the convention.

    Business Week notes:

    But his delegates could shake things up right when the party’s supposed to unify behind a single candidate. They could start off by calling for a floor vote, and then jump up in blocs to nominate Paul, one state after another.

    He isn’t likely to actually get the nomination that way, but multiple states clamoring for him would embarrass the party and make things more difficult for Romney in the months before November.

    To fend off that political nightmare, Romney may have to offer concessions to Paul. Perhaps give him the microphone and let him speak in Tampa. Or incorporate some of his ideas into party platforms that the GOP will hash out in Tampa.

    But for Ron Paul’s fiery support, it seems that platform planks will not be sufficient. After all, just look at how often the GOP seems to ignore the planks that they already have outlined in the platform.

    Here are some gems found within the GOP platform:

    · A Plan to Control Spending
    · Improving the work of government
    · Promoting Human Rights and American Values

    One wonders how some of these Republicans can keep a straight face when they read off these planks.

    After all, the Republican Party has been all too complicit in the passage of unconstitutional laws that violate our civil liberties, the passage of absurdly expensive bills that will add to the deficit, and the defense of torture and preemptive wars.

    The bottom line for all the naysayers at there is this: Ron Paul does not need to secure 1,144 delegates. He just needs to see to it that Mitt Romney does not get 1,144 delegates. And that seems to be an increasing possibility.

    This article originally appeared on Wide Awake News

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    Ron Paul’s Stealth Campaign

    May 9, 2012 by Bob Livingston

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    The Ron Paul ground game is working.

    Were a big government progressive or media darling candidate siphoning delegates away from the front runner as Congressman Ron Paul is siphoning delegates from Mitt Romney, the mainstream media would be giving the story wall-to-wall coverage. As it is, only those who search for the truth via alternative media outlets have any clue as to what is going on behind the scenes.

    Paul’s organization efforts are paying off. His supporters are securing delegates that the media assumed were going to Romney. And many of Rick Santorum’s delegates are migrating into the Paul camp as well. The MSM’s delegate count is a lie. The Paul ground game is working as Paul tries to deny Romney the 1,144 delegates needed to win the nomination and to force a brokered convention.

    We have begun reminding voters of President Barack Obama’s Marxist background and his Marxist associates. We will continue to do this, because there is no question his policies are bad news for a free and prosperous country.

    But Romney is little better—think of the difference between traveling down the road at 100 mph (Obama) or 75 mph (Romney). Romney’s a big government statist. That he’s running as a Republican makes him even more insidious than Obama because Romney’s a chameleon who attempts to cloak himself in the veil of conservatism (much like George W. Bush did).

    And Romney has no respect for the voting process. While Paul and his supporters are using the Republican Party’s own rules to put Paul supporters in the delegate seats and officer positions at local party organizations, Romney supporters are lying, handing out fake ballots, portraying themselves as Paul supporters, changing the rules–and often making up new rules as they go–in an effort to game the system. In other words, the Romney camp is doing exactly what it has accused the Paul camp of doing.

    Romney has deceived a lot of people who don’t pay attention into thinking that he is a conservative. His campaign spokesman used rare candor when he compared Romney’s primary campaign to an Etch A Sketch. He made it clear that once Romney secures the nomination he will jog to the center. That’s the same ground Obama will try and occupy once he gets his arms back around his base. But in the end, remember that both Romney and Obama are controlled by the banksters.

    I often hear it said and see it written that a vote for Paul is a vote for Obama, and that nothing matters beyond defeating Obama. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    What is true is that a vote for Obama or a vote for Romney is a vote for more government spending, more foreign wars, more Federal Reserve money printing, less individual wealth and, ultimately, a complete collapse of the system.

    There are two choices in this election: serfdom or freedom. Voting for Romney or Obama is a vote for serfdom.

    Don’t let anyone tell you that you should support Romney over Paul simply to bring the GOP together and/or to defeat Obama, especially if your State is yet to hold its primary vote or caucus. Your choice of who to vote for is yours and yours alone. You should vote for the candidate who best represents your views of what America should be. If you let someone else sway you to vote contrary to your conscience in order to satisfy his sense of expediency or because of some fallacious argument, you have betrayed your own values.

    Remember the words of Samuel Adams who wrote:
    Let each citizen remember at the moment he is offering his vote that he is not making a present or a compliment to please an individual — or at least that he ought not so to do; but that he is executing one of the most solemn trusts in human society for which he is accountable to God and his country.
    And remember: Whether Paul is able to pull off an upset and secure the nomination or not, Ron Paul is winning. He’s laying the groundwork for a much more conservative Republican Party in the future. And he’s spreading an exciting conservative message to thousands of supporters—young and old—who will be in a position to reshape the GOP in coming elections.

    If you value liberty, send a message to the GOP: no Paul, no vote.

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    U.S. Support for Afghan War Hits New Low - Only 27% In Favor; "Doing more harm than good"

    Submitted by The Daily Paul on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 09:03
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    By Anne Gearan - The Associated Press via Marine Corps Times

    May 9, 2012

    WASHINGTON — Support for the war in Afghanistan has reached a new low, with only 27 percent of Americans saying they back the effort and about half of those who oppose the war saying the continued presence of American troops in Afghanistan is doing more harm than good, according to an AP-GfK poll.

    In results released Wednesday, 66 percent opposed the war, with 40 percent saying they were “strongly” opposed. A year ago, 37 percent favored the war, and in the spring of 2010, support was at 46 percent. Eight percent strongly supported the war in the new poll.

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    Ron Paul is taking over the GOP, and making the Dems irrelevant.

    Submitted by IO on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 14:17
    It just occured to me today that Not only is Ron Paul winning the hearts and minds of the GOP, but when he takes over, the liberty loving masses in this nation will turn the Democratic party into an empty shell.

    We are truly seeing something epic here. One man, and his ideals, with a passionate following is eliminating our two party system! I never thought I'd live long enough to see this day come!

    God bless Liberty!

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    Okla. GOP Members Warning that Ron Paul will "Steal" Delegates

    Submitted by stu2002 on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 13:24
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    RON PAUL'S PLAN TO STEAL OKLAHOMA DELEGATES:

    This Saturday, in Norman, Oklahoma; Ron Paul's people intend to complete their grand design and add Oklahoma to the growing list of state delegations they already control.

    The national media is largely ignoring the recent developments in many state and district conventions.

    Rick Santorum won Minnesota, Missouri, Colorado, Louisiana, Iowa, and several other states. But the states I just named are now under the control of Ron Paul, and those delegates intend to vote for Paul regardless of the outcome of their Caucus results.

    Oklahoma pledged all their 40 delegates to Santorum, Romney, and Gingrich; on Super Tuesday (March 6th). Ron Paul received less than 10% of the vote and zero pledged delegates.
    But when the time came for selecting which individuals will wear those national delegate badges, Ron Paul's activists have already successfully received 9 of the first 15 national delegates from Oklahoma.

    Each congressional district was allowed to select 3 national delegates and three of Oklahoma's district conventions (3, 4 & 5) were all controlled by Ron Paul activists. Districts 1 and 2 selected primarily Santorum supporters. Ron Paul's activists attempted a coup at District One and they are now petitioning to vacate the results of District One.

    Dedicated Republicans need to work together to avoid a chaotic state convention this Saturday. The convention needs to select the final 25 delegates and protect the District One delegates. Libertarian forces are plotting to supplant the primary results by selecting an alternative slate of candidates who reflect the agenda of the American Libertarian Party.

    If you are a state delegate, it is imperative that you attend the Oklahoma Republican State Convention, this Saturday. There will assuredly be a passionate struggle for control of the convention, the national delegation, and the party's future.

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