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    "In individuals, insanity is rare; in groups, parties, nations, and epochs, it is the rule." - Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." - Adolf Hitler

    The party was founded out of the violent advocacy of an ideology combining the nationalism of the right and the socialism of the left. Concentration of subservient teachings in Pr
    ussian school systems bred a society based on acceptance of violence, mass obedience, and collectivist teachings to reject individuality and self-preservation. Political strategy focused on anti-big business and anti-capitalist rhetoric, although such aspects were later downplayed in order to gain the support of industrial entities. In the midst of the depression, the government restored prosperity and ended mass unemployment using heavy military spending and a mixed economy of free-market and central-planning practices. Extensive public works were undertaken. The leader rapidly established a totalitarian regime. (summary of the establishment of the Nazi party.)
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    The current view of the 2012 presidential election, based on HuffPost Pollster charts and analysis.

    Updated: Saturday, Sep. 1 9:12 pm ET

    Obama 231 Electoral Votes
    Romney 191 Electoral Votes


    270 electoral votes needed to win

    Obama vs. Romney Electoral Map

    The GOP and RNC have a Suicide Run~Away Train happening and they just dont get it... Romney, just like McCain wasnt picked to Win; he was picked by the Elites to knock out any and all contenders against Obama

    These 2 ~ Obama / Romney are Globalists and the Elite have hedged their Bets... there is NO change Coming
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    Obama vs Romney

    Last Updated: 9/2

    State Pollster Poll Date Obama Romney
    National Rasmussen Tracking 8/30-9/1 44% 48%
    National Gallup Tracking 8/26-9/1 47% 46%
    Missouri PPP 8/28-8/29 41% 53%
    Michigan EPIC MRA 8/28-8/28 49% 46%
    National Democracy Corps 8/23-8/27 49% 47%
    Nevada PPP 8/23-8/26 50% 47%
    Iowa PPP 8/23-8/26 47% 45%
    National CBS News 8/22-8/26 46% 45%
    Connecticut Quinnipiac 8/22-8/26 52% 45%
    Florida CNN/Time 8/22-8/26 50% 46%
    North Carolina CNN/Time 8/22-8/26 47% 48%
    New Jersey Rutgers Eagleton 8/23-8/25 51% 37%
    National ABC News/Wash Post 8/22-8/25 46% 47%
    Ohio Columbus Dispatch 8/15-8/25 45% 45%
    Michigan Mitchell Research 8/23-8/23 47% 47%

    More Obama vs Romney »


    Rasmussen Tracking »


    Gallup Tracking »



    Battleground States:
    Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania.
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    Presidential Polls for 2012 Election - Latest Political National Polls
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    Last 3 Polls by Battleground State: Obama 290, Romney 248

    8/25/12
    Start with the 270towin.com battleground map. Obama 201, Romney 191.

    Nevada - Obama ahead
    Pollster End Date Obama Romney
    LVRJ/SurveyUSA 8/21/2012 47 45
    Rasmussen Reports 7/24/2012 50 45
    WeAskAmerica 7/18/2012 49 43
    Colorado - Obama ahead
    Pollster End Date Obama Romney
    Keating 8/22/2012 48 44
    Purple Strategies 8/14/2012 49 46
    Rasmussen Reports 8/6/2012 47 47
    Iowa - Obama ahead
    Pollster End Date Obama Romney
    Rasmussen Reports 8/8/2012 44 46
    PPP 7/15/2012 48 43
    WeAskAmerica 6/18/2012 45 44
    Wisconsin - Obama ahead
    Pollster End Date Obama Romney
    CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac 8/21/2012 49 47
    Marquette University 8/19/2012 49 46
    PPP 8/19/2012 47 48
    Michigan - Obama ahead
    Pollster End Date Obama Romney
    Detroit News 8/20/2012 48 42
    Baydoun/Foster 8/16/2012 44 48
    EPIC MRA 7/31/2012 48 42
    Ohio - Obama ahead
    Pollster End Date Obama Romney
    Ohio poll/Univ of Cin 8/21/2012 49 46
    CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac 8/21/2012 50 44
    Purple Strategies 8/14/2012 44 46
    Pennsylvania - Obama ahead
    Pollster End Date Obama Romney
    Morning Call 8/22/2012 49 40
    Franklin Marshall 8/12/2012 47 42
    CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac 7/30/2012 53 42
    New Hampshire - Obama ahead
    Pollster End Date Obama Romney
    WMUR/UNH 7/15/2012 49 45
    NBC News/Marist 6/25/2012 45 45
    PPP 5/13/2012 53 41
    Virginia - Romney ahead
    Pollster End Date Obama Romney
    Rasmussen Reports 8/23/2012 47 47
    Purple Strategies 8/14/2012 45 48
    Rasmussen Reports 8/7/2012 48 46
    North Carolina - Romney ahead
    Pollster End Date Obama Romney
    Civitas 7/18/2012 48 49
    PPP 7/8/2012 47 46
    Project New America/myers 7/8/2012 48 49
    Florida - Romney ahead
    Pollster End Date Obama Romney
    CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac 8/21/2012 49 46
    Rasmussen Reports 8/15/2012 43 45
    Purple Strategies 8/14/2012 47 48
    We end up with Obama 290, Romney 248.
    All Romney needs to do to win this election is to:

    1. win the states he's projected to win now: VA, NC, FL.
    2. flip Ohio
    3. flip one or more of either: NV, CO, IA, WI, MI, PA, NH.


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    Hostile Takeover: Ron Paul Delegates Barred From Voting at the Republican National Convention *Video*

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    The farce known as the American electoral process has proven, yet again, that the voice of the American people is to be heard only if it speaks in lockstep with the status quo.
    Republican National Committee officials essentially reshuffled the makeup of Maine’s delegation to the convention after determining that the state’s delegate-selection process in May was riddled with illegal votes and parliamentary violations.

    As a compromise intended to satisfy the Romney and Paul camps, RNC officials replaced 10 of the 20 Paul delegates with 10 Romney supporters.

    The switch gave Romney a 14-10 delegate edge in Maine, including the state’s four undeclared delegates, all of whom support Romney.

    After exhausting all other appeals, Maine’s pro-Paul contingent plans to ask the full convention Tuesday to reject the RNC’s revised list of delegates and re-seat the slate of 20 Paul supporters who were elected during the state convention in May.

    Source: Press Herald
    The move to bar duly elected Paul delegates from voting led contingents from Maine and Texas to erupt in anger and walk out of the convention, perhaps foreshadowing what Mitt Romney can expect from Paul supporters come election day.



    In any reasonably legitimate democratic system of voting, what transpired Tuesday night at the Republican National Convention would be considered election fraud. In America, it’s politics as usual.

    Coming from a Party that claims to be of higher ethical and moral standards, and one that is supposed to respect the rule of law, the last-minute rule change implemented at the RNC is indicative of our current political culture – win at any cost, fairness and equality be damned.
    It’s a disgusting, disgusting display of a hostile takeover from the top down,” said Maine delegate Ashley Ryan, according to an article in the Los Angeles Times. “It’s an embarrassment,” she’s quoted as saying.

    Source: Infowars

    The move to disenfranchise a significant voice of the American people demonstrates yet again that unless you tow the Party line, your vote really doesn’t matter and what you have to say is irrelevant to the establishment.

    While Governor Romney may have thought it was a good idea to re-appropriate legitimate votes from Ron Paul for the benefit of his own campaign, it shows that the Republican Presidential candidate is just more of the same and willing to silence the voices of millions of Americans in the process.

    In February of 2012 we noted that this election will come down to non-Party line voters:
    It seems that Ron Paul’s often marginalized supporters will be the ones responsible for determining who the next President of the United States will be.

    Primary results and the latest polling suggest that Paul will not be the republican nominee this year, which means either Romney, Santorum or Gingrich will be going head to head with Obama.

    In that situation, at the eleventh hour, will Paul supporters remain steadfastly opposed to voting for another candidate, and by doing so handing the election to Obama? Or, will the prospect of four more years of a President who has lived up to at least one campaign promise – that he will fundamentally change America – be enough to drive them to the polls in support of any republican with a heartbeat?

    The answer to this question will be the single determining factor in this year’s Presidential election.

    Make no mistake. The Republican Party has made a gross miscalculation by continuing to marginalize the concerns of third-party voters.

    This is very bad news for Mitt Romney.

    Ron Paul voters, fed up with being treated liked second-hand citizens and extremists by both major political parties, may very well just stay home on November 6th and they’ll take a huge chunk of the popular and electoral vote with them.

    The only saving grace Mitt Romney has is that Libertarian and third-party voters absolutely abhor the policies of Barack Obama. Whether this is a powerful enough motivator to get Paul supporters to shift their support to Romney remains to be seen.

    We’ll find out in a couple months.

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    The Crunch: “It’s Going to Happen In the Next Administration; Regardless of Who Wins This Election”

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    Our incumbent President says that things are getting better, jobs are being created, and America is on the road to recovery. His opponent, Governor Mitt Romney, says the opposite, but claims he has a plan that will turn things around and bring prosperity back.

    According to free market proponent Peter Schiff, it doesn’t matter who wins, because the crunch is coming – and it’s going to become apparent during the next President’s administration.
    He [Mitt Romney] is not going to prevent the crisis.

    We’re headed for a real economic collapse regardless of who wins this election.

    The government has over-promised. There are gigantic Ponzi schemes. They do not work.

    Meanwhile, the only reason the economy has not collapsed is because interest rates are artificially low. the Fed cannot keep interest rates low indefinitely, and when interest rates go up the party is over. And then we’re not going to have a choice anymore.

    We’re going to have to finally deal with these problems or destroy our currency, and that is a real economic crisis that is going to make 2008 look like a walk in the park.

    [The crunch] is going to happen in the next administration.

    We can’t fix these problems by repealing Obamacare and cutting taxes.

    We have structural problems that underline the U.S. economy that are very deep that require real free market reforms, and unfortunately none of the major candidates are even talking about that right now.




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    Peter Schiff was ahead of the collapse of 2008, warning clients of his firm Euro Pacific Capital that global equities would crash as a result of fraud, unservicable debt levels and a failed monetary policy. After the crash he, like many others, urged Congress to address the fundamental problems within the US economy, including fiscal, monetary and economic policy reform.

    He and the American citizenry were ignored as Washington not only didn’t listen, but engaged in exactly the opposite of what should have been done.

    Four years on we’re worse off than ever before, with more money having been borrowed from foreign creditors and stolen by the government from taxpayers under the guise of bailing out essential financial and manufacturing sectors of the global economy.

    We’re in too deep folks. At this point, it cannot be stopped.

    Trillions of dollars are owed, and as a country we have no way to make good on that debt.

    Confidence in the US dollar will soon be lost, and when that happens we will experience a collapse in the United States and the global economy unlike any that has ever been witnessed in the history of the world.

    Historians will write about this era for centuries to come, just as they write of Rome today.

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    Ron Paul TX Straight Talk 9/3/12: The Doomed Dollar & the Case For a Stable Currency

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    Romney closed Cayman and Swiss bank accounts to avoid embarrassment

    Submitted by GBAmerica on Mon, 09/03/2012 - 14:28
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    Romney closed Cayman and Swiss bank accounts to avoid embarrassment

    As more details about Mitt Romney's tax returns flow in, progressives are fuming about the infant-sized 13.9% he paid in taxes on millions of dollars in 2010. Another eye-opener was Romney's quick act in closing his Cayman Island and Swiss bank accounts before running for president a second time.

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    GOP is Trying to Quash Grassroots Movement, Ron Paul Supporters Fear
    Republican National Convention floor flight over rules leave some Minnesota delegates wondering about the direction of the party.

    By Patch Staff

    The Republican National Convention may be over, but Minnesota's delegates sure left an impression.

    So much so, in fact, that some of those delegates are deeply concerned—in the wake of their continued support of Ron Paul as a nominee, instead of Mitt Romney—that the Republican Party is quietly working to render powerless all future delegates who express independence from the party line.

    Delegates from Minnesota are saying that some rule changes made last week at the convention will quash grassroots efforts like the one that enabled Paul to win the majority of the Minnesota delegates.

    Just before the convention started on Monday, a key committee endorsed new rules for 2016 convention that essentially gave the party's presumptive nominee veto power over delegates, who typically are selected at the local and state level. Under the rules, a presidential campaign would have been able to replace any delegates it didn't like.

    That proposed rule change set off a firestorm of controversy — and not just among Ron Paul supporters. Tea-party groups and other conservatives — including U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann and radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh — came out against the change.
    No longer a grassroots party?

    "They turned it from a bottom-up process that it has been in most states, to a top-down system where the party leadership — based on who they determine is the ordained nominee — will be able to not only control the delegations but also vet the delegates themselves," said Neil Lynch, an alternate delegate from Maple Grove. "They will be able to keep the people they like and kick out the people they don’t like."

    Because of the opposition to that rule, it was dropped by the time delegates voted on the rules on Tuesday.

    However, on a controversial voice vote Tuesday, revised rules still were put into place that say that delegate allocation must be determined solely by a statewide presidential primary or caucuses, regardless of a state's individual rules.

    For example, in Minnesota, candidate Rick Santorum won the state's non-binding caucus in Februrary by taking 45 percent of the vote. But because delegates are selected at district conventions and the state GOP convention, the Paul campaign focused its efforts there. And Paul wound up with 33 of the state's 40 delegates. That can't happen in 2016, under the new rules.

    The rules also allow candidates to replace any of their delegates and alternates replaced with someone else simply by "disavowing" the original delegate.

    Finally, another rule that passed Tuesday gives the Republican National Committee the power to change rules for the 2016 convention again without going before the delegates. Historically, rules for national conventions are voted upon by delegates at the previous convention and cannot be changed.

    The National Review and other media outlets are reporting that the rule changes, engineered by one of candidate Mitt Romney's lawyers, are an effort to prevent a conservative challenge to Romney in 2016.
    Party leaders accused of silencing dissenters

    But the Ron Paul delegates from Minnesota see it as more than that. They consider the change as a continuation of a shift in the Republican party toward exerting more control at the national level.

    "What they’re trying to do is silence dissenting voices," said delegate Kevin Erickson, who is a pastor in Mountain Iron. "Dissenting voices make our platform stronger, and make our issues broader and more appealing to the masses."

    "They want to be able to say, 'Yeah, we have grassroots organizations in every community in the country.' But they don’t want our voice, they want us to get in line," said Greg O’Connor, a delegate from Inver Grove Heights. "And that’s what we saw (Tuesday) at this convention. The power is centralized; they intend to keep it centralized."

    While the rule the concerned them the most — allowing a presidential candidate to replace delegates selected at district and state conventions — ultimately wasn't put into place, the delegates are still concerned the change may be implemented for the 2016 convention.

    Erickson said: "This would have given the Romney camp the ability to say, 'Wait a minute. You supported Ron Paul, therefore, I’m vetoing you as a delegate. It doesn’t matter that the people of your district elected you to represent them on their issues. I don’t like you. You’re out.'”
    It's Not About Ron Paul

    And even though they're Paul supporters, the delegates say their concern over the rule changes go beyond any particular candidate.

    "People are trying to cast this as a Ron Paul issue and the crazy Ron Paul-ers who oppose this," Lynch said. "This isn’t just about Ron Paul. Any grass-roots underdog candidate would be hindered and practically prevented from having a voice. People like Ted Cruz, Herman Cain, Rick Santorum…The national party wants to say, 'Romney’s our guy. The rest of you can all just go home.’"

    Melissa Valeriano, a delegate from Rochester and candidate for House District 25B, noted that these kind of changes could hurt Republicans as they attempt to bring more young voters into the party.

    "They say we have to grow the GOP for the future. And yet, you have real grassroots activity from a lot of young people this time around, and what they’ve just done is effectively turned those people away," she said. "They will not continue to be part of the Republican party when these kind of things are done."

    "This is not a Ron Paul issue," added Erickson. "This is about the very heart and soul of the Republcan party."

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