Thread: Dream Amnesty Supporter Manifesto Threatens Lawmakers, Media

I hate to say this, but its a fact. After a shooting in my neighborhood ( no illegals were involved to my knowlege) my wife and i decided to buy a gun. I personally shoot in part for a hobby, but its very possible that i might need to defend my family over riots over this illegal immigration stuff and i am in delaware. we dont have a major problem here yet, but as blue of a state as this is i can see the shole state becoming a sanctuary state ( over my dead body)

My freedoms are protected by the u.s. constitution, the honorable soldiers of the military and the AMERICAN GUN OWNER.

I encourage all law abiding americans to learn to shoot because you might need to. if obama found a way to use an executive order amnesty i could see a second war between the states.

This is pathetic. These so called elected representatives (who are supposed to be representing AMERICANS) are trying to pass a bill that 200 MILLION Americans oppose. It only shows how these slimeballs work. Once they get into office they forget that they work for AMERICANS. Unfortunately this problem is on BOTH sides of the aisle.

http://latinainstitute(Dot)wordpress(DOT)com/2010/08/23/mike-huckabees-surprising-support-for-the-dream-act/

Republicans and Democrats need to be THROWN out of office for supporting this turd of a bill. This bill does not benefit AMERICANS in ANY way. It is just another way to give our hard earned money to ILLEGALS, that come here looking for a handout. When the truth is, they are too lazy to put the work into changing their country by electing honest representatives and leaders. They rather slither across our southern border by the millions and demand our country change its laws.

Reagan started this mess by granting Amnesty in the 80's. Since then the problem has got worse exponentially, with no end in site. OUR congress needs to represent US. They work for US. They get paid by US (severely overpaid in ALL cases). Remember the names of these TRAITORS and remind people when it comes election time. We need to clean house before it's too late.

If this bill is passed, we will be one step closer to losing our sovereignty and becoming another union. Once that happens you can kiss our Bill of Rights and Constitution good bye. They will re-write the whole kit-and-kaboodle. Our culture, freedom and our history will become history. The reason that our country is unique and the envy of the world will be gone. We will be lumped into the socialistic mess that Europe and Africa has become.

Which brings me to the post by this "ineverhadabrain" idiot. To me, that post makes him or her a terrorist, and the site moderators/owners are lending aid to this terrorist by allowing it, even for a few minutes. They should all be caught and tried as terrorists. If it was an American making the same post, you can guarantee it would be all over the news and the FBI would shut down the site and the person would be sitting in jail awaiting trial. Or the post would have been removed immediately and the account banned with the IP address. (How many YouTube accounts faced the same fate just for being against illegal immigration?)

Americans need to see that this is their "moment of clarity". You get to see Obama and his cohorts as well as your elected representatives for what they really are. They are not hiding this agenda in a defense bill or attached to a budget, they are coming straight out with it. They are sell-outs pushing for Amnesty and the eventual merger with Mexico and Canada. What they are counting on is that you, the American voter wouldnt be able to see the truth. They figured with all the other distractions WikiLEAKS, TV, RADIO,Internet etc., you wouldnt notice them walking in the front door with this feces.

The time is now, Call your representatives, write your local papers, tell your friends, neighbors and co-workers about this dream act for illegals/nightmare for Americans and the terrorist threat to Americans. You have more than 1 vote. You have influence. You have information. You have the Truth. Use it to put this Amnesty down, and to make sure your elected representatives know you do not want to see it again, in ANY way, shape or form.

We trained the Zetas for the Mexican government and we know how that turned out.

Also, since we no longer the "High Moral Ground" since Wikileaks, we don't have to be "nice".

Originally Posted by Dewlso

This is pathetic. These so called elected representatives (who are supposed to be representing AMERICANS) are trying to pass a bill that 200 MILLION Americans oppose. It only shows how these slimeballs work. Once they get into office they forget that they work for AMERICANS. Unfortunately this problem is on BOTH sides of the aisle.

http://latinainstitute .wordpress.com/2010/08/23/mike-huckabees-surprising-support-for-the-dream-act/

Republicans and Democrats need to be THROWN out of office for supporting this turd of a bill. This bill does not benefit AMERICANS in ANY way. It is just another way to give our hard earned money to ILLEGALS, that come here looking for a handout. When the truth is, they are too lazy to put the work into changing their country by electing honest representatives and leaders. They rather slither across our southern border by the millions and demand our country change its laws.

Reagan started this mess by granting Amnesty in the 80's. Since then the problem has got worse exponentially, with no end in site. OUR congress needs to represent US. They work for US. They get paid by US (severely overpaid in ALL cases). Remember the names of these TRAITORS and remind people when it comes election time. We need to clean house before it's too late.

If this bill is passed, we will be one step closer to losing our sovereignty and becoming another union. Once that happens you can kiss our Bill of Rights and Constitution good bye. They will re-write the whole kit-and-kaboodle. Our culture, freedom and our history will become history. The reason that our country is unique and the envy of the world will be gone. We will be lumped into the socialistic mess that Europe and Africa has become.

Which brings me to the post by this "ineverhadabrain" idiot. To me, that post makes him or her a terrorist, and the site moderators/owners are lending aid to this terrorist by allowing it, even for a few minutes. They should all be caught and tried as terrorists. If it was an American making the same post, you can guarantee it would be all over the news and the FBI would shut down the site and the person would be sitting in jail awaiting trial. Or the post would have been removed immediately and the account banned with the IP address. (How many YouTube accounts faced the same fate just for being against illegal immigration?)

Americans need to see that this is their "moment of clarity". You get to see Obama and his cohorts as well as your elected representatives for what they really are. They are not hiding this agenda in a defense bill or attached to a budget, they are coming straight out with it. They are sell-outs pushing for Amnesty and the eventual merger with Mexico and Canada. What they are counting on is that you, the American voter wouldnt be able to see the truth. They figured with all the other distractions WikiLEAKS, TV, RADIO,Internet etc., you wouldnt notice them walking in the front door with this feces.

The time is now, Call your representatives, write your local papers, tell your friends, neighbors and co-workers about this dream act for illegals/nightmare for Americans and the terrorist threat to Americans. You have more than 1 vote. You have influence. You have information. You have the Truth. Use it to put this Amnesty down, and to make sure your elected representatives know you do not want to see it again, in ANY way, shape or form.

Welcome to ALIPAC Dewlso!

You are right on! I double ditto everything you said above.

Which brings me to the post by this "ineverhadabrain" idiot. To me, that post makes him or her a terrorist, and the site moderators/owners are lending aid to this terrorist by allowing it, even for a few minutes. They should all be caught and tried as terrorists. If it was an American making the same post, you can guarantee it would be all over the news and the FBI would shut down the site and the person would be sitting in jail awaiting trial. Or the post would have been removed immediately and the account banned with the IP address. (How many YouTube accounts faced the same fate just for being against illegal immigration?)

Quoting again what you said about the dangerous post by "iNeverHadAChance" that was left up on the net with the physical threat in it...........It would most likely still be there if one of us had not caught them breaking the law by threatening bodily harm.

The Latino leaders here in the United States have made all sorts of threats to 'white' people, but the law officials allow them to make threats with no consequences.

Threats are only made known to the public if they are made about a minority. We, on the other hand are made to look like fools when we become concerned about our own safety.

This below is a an example of how the leaders have been allowed to talk about getting rid of us. You may have already listened to these clips, but it is good to keep reminding ourselves of what/who we are dealing with right here in our own country. http://www.ccir.net/AUDIO/TakeoverOfAmericaCD/Menu.html

I like to read this often because it reminds me about the long range plans of the Hispanic/Mexican/Latino community, and how these plans have been working for them over the last few years with the help of our rogue government.

"The Takeover of America"
The California Coalition for Immigration Reform (CCIR) produced a CD with excerpts of radical, racist speeches by fifteen Latino elected officials, professors, students and community activists, with additional comments by Congressman Tom Tancredo, L.A. Talk Show Host Larry Elder, former CA Governor Gray Davis -- ending with disturbing chants by MEChA students. [You may download each individual clip in mp3 format. A link is provided at the end of each individual transcript for your convenience].

These are the verbatim transcripts:

1) Armando Navarro, Prof. Ethnic Studies, UC Riverside at Latino Summit Response to Prop 187, UC Riverside, 1/1995
"These are the critical years for us as a Latino community. We're in a state of transition. And that transformation is called 'the browning of America'. Latinos are now becoming the majority. Because I know that time and history is on the side of the Chicano/Latino community. It is changing in the future and in the present the balance of power of this nation. It's a game - it's a game of power - who controls it. You (to MEChA students) are like the generals that command armies. We're in a state of war. This Proposition 187 is a declaration of war against the Latino/Chicano community of this country. They know the demographics. They know that history and time is on our side. As one community, as one people, as one nation within a nation as the community that we are, the Chicano/Latino community of this nation. What this means is a transfer of power. It means control."
Click here to download this audio clip.

2) Art Torres, former CA state senator, currently Chair of California Democrat Party at UC Riverside 1/1995
"Que viva la causa! It is an honor to be with the new leadership of the Americas, here meeting at UC Riverside. So with 187 on the ballot, what is it going to take for our people to vote - to see us walking into the gas ovens? It is electoral power that is going to make the determination of where we go as a community. And power is not given to you -- you have to take it. Remember: 187 is the last gasp of white America in California. Understand that. And people say to me on the Senate floor when I was in the Senate, 'Why do you fight so hard for affirmative action programs?' And I tell my white colleagues, 'because you're going to need them.'"
Click here to download this audio clip.

3) Jose Angel Gutierrez, Prof. Univ. Texas at Arlington, founder La Raza Unida Party at UC Riverside 1/1995
"The border remains a military zone. We remain a hunted people. Now you think you have a destiny to fulfill in the land that historically has been ours for forty thousand years. And we're a new Mestizo nation. And they want us to discuss civil rights. Civil rights. What law made by white men to oppress all of us of color, female and male. This is our homeland. We cannot - we will not- and we must not be made illegal in our own homeland. We are not immigrants that came from another country to another country. We are migrants, free to travel the length and breadth of the Americas because we belong here. We are millions. We just have to survive. We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. It's a matter of time. The explosion is in our population."
Click here to download this audio clip.

4) Bill Richardson, New Mexico Governor, former U.S. Congressman, U.N. Ambassador, U.S. Sect'y of Energy interviewed on radio Latino USA responding to Congressional Immigration Reform legislation in 1996
"There are changing political times where our basic foundations and programs are being attacked, illegal and legal immigration are being unfairly attacked. We have to band together, and that means Latinos in Florida, Cuban-Americans, Mexican-Americans, Puerto Ricans, South Americans, we have to network better - we have to be more politically minded, we have to put aside party and think of ourselves as Latinos, as Hispanics more than we have in the past."
Click here to download this audio clip.

5) Mario Obledo, founding member/former nat'l director of Mexican-American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), former CA Sect'y Health/Welfare on Tom Leykis radio talk show
"We're going to take over all the political institutions in California. In five years the Hispanics are going to be the majority population of this state." Caller: "You also made the statement that California is going to become a Hispanic state and if anyone doesn't like it they should leave - did you say that?" Obledo: "I did. They ought to go back to Europe."
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6) CCIR commentary on Mario Obledo
When CCIR, the California Coalition for Immigration Reform, erected a billboard on the California/Arizona border reading, "WELCOME TO CALIFORNIA, THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION STATE", Mario Obledo, infuriated, went to the billboard location and threatened to blow it up or burn it down. Even after this threat to deny American citizens their freedom of speech, President Clinton awarded Obledo the Presidential Medal of Freedom, America's highest civilian honor. CCIR question to Obledo: "Jose Angel Gutierrez said, 'We have an aging white America, they are dying, I love it.' How would you translate that statement?" Obledo: "He's a good friend of mine. A very smart person."
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7) Richard Alatorre, former Los Angeles City Councilman at Latino Summit conference in Los Angeles opposing CA Prop. 209 ending affirmative action in 9/1996
"Because our numbers are growing, they're afraid about this great mass of minorities that now live in our community. They're afraid that we're going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They are right, we will take them over, and we are not going to go away - we are here to stay, and we are saying 'ya basta' (enough!) and we are going to turn... and de... not elect or re-elect people that believe that they are going to advance their political careers on the backs of immigrants and the backs of minorities."
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Joe Baca, former CA Assemblymember, currently member of Congress at Latino Summit Response to Prop 187 UC Riverside 1/1995 and Southwest Voter Registration Project annual conference in Los Angeles, 6/1996
"We need more Latinos out there. We must stand up and be counted. We must be together, We must be united. Because if we're not united you know what's going to happen? We're like sticks - we're broken to pieces. Divided we're not together. But as a unit they can't break us. So we've got to come together, and if we're united, si se puede (it can be done) and we will make the changes that are necessary. But we've got to do it. We've got to stand together, and dammit, don't let them divide us because that's what they want to do, is to divide us. And once we're divided we're conquered. But when we look out at the audience and we see, you know, la familia, La Raza (the family, our race), you know, it's a great feeling, isn't it a good feeling? And you know, I started to think about that and it reminded me of a book that we all read and we all heard about, you know, Paul Revere, and when he was saying, 'The British are coming, the British are coming!' Well, the Latinos are coming, the Latinos are coming! And the Latinos are going to vote. So our voices will be heard. So that's what this agenda is about. It's about insuring that we increase our numbers. That we increase our numbers at every level. We talk about the Congressional, we talk about the Senate, we talk about board of supervisors, board of education, city councils, commissions, we have got to increase out numbers because the Latinos are coming. Because what's going on right now, with 187, the CCRI (CA Civil Rights Initiative against affirmative action), and let me tell you, we can't go back, you know, we're in a civil war. But we need to be solidified, we need to come together, we must be strong, because united we form a strong body. United we become solidified, united we make a difference, united we make the changes, united Latinos will win throughout California, let's stick together, que si se puede, que no? (it can be done, right?)
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9) Antonio Villaraigosa, Chair of MEChA (student wing of Aztlan movement) at UCLA, former CA assemblymember, former CA Assembly speaker, currently Los Angeles City Councilman at Southwest Voter Registration Project Conference in Los Angeles, 6/1997
"Part of today's reality has been propositions like 187 (to deny public benefits to illegal aliens, 1994), propositions like 209 (to abolish affirmative action, 1996), the welfare reform bill, which targeted legal immigrants and targeted us as a community. That's been the midnight. We know that the sunny side of midnight has been the election of a Latino speaker - was the election of Loretta Sanchez, against an arch-conservative, reactionary hate-mongering politician like Congressman Dornan! Today in California in the legislature, we're engaged in a great debate, where not only were we talking about denying education to the children of undocumented workers, but now we're talking about whether or not we should provide prenatal care to undocumented mothers. It's not enough to elect Latino leadership. If they're supporting legislation that denies the undocumented driver's licenses, they don't belong in office, friends. They don't belong here. If they can't stand up and say, 'You know what? I'm not ever going to support a policy that denies prenatal care to the children of undocumented mothers', they don't belong here."
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10) Gloria Molina, one of the five in Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors at Southwest Voter Registration Project Conference, 6/1996
"This community is no longer going to stand for it. Because tonight we are organizing across this country in a single mission, in a plan. We are going to organize like we've never organized before. We are going to go into our neighborhoods. We are going to register voters. We are going to talk to all of those young people that need to become registered voters and go out to vote and we're are politicizing every single one of those new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country. And what we are saying is by November we will have one million additional Latino voters in this country, and we're gonna march, and our vote is going to be important. But I gotta tell you, there's a lot of people that are saying, 'I'm gonna go out there and vote because I want to pay them back!' And this November we are going to remember those that stood with us and we are also going to remember those that have stood against us on the issues of immigration, on the issues of education, on the issues of health care, on the issues of the minimum wage."
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11) Vicky Castro, former member of Los Angeles Board of Education at Southwest Voter Registration Project Conference, 6/1996
"Que viva la raza, que viva la raza (long live our race)! I'm here to welcome all the new voters of 18 years old that we're registering now in our schools. Welcome, you're going to make a difference for Los Angeles, for San Antonio, for New York, and I thank Southwest for taking that challenge. And to the Mechistas (MEChA students) across this nation, you're going to make that difference for us, too. But when we register one more million voters I will not be the only Latina on the Board of Education of Los Angeles. And let me tell you here, no one will dismantle bilingual education in the United States of America. No one will deny an education to any child, especially Latino children. As you know, in Los Angeles we make up 70% of this school district. Of 600,000 -- 400,000 are Latinos, and our parents are not heard and they're going to be heard because in Los Angeles, San Antonio and Texas we have just classified 53,000 new citizens in one year that are going to be felt in November!"
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12) Ruben Zacarias, former superintendent of Los Angeles Unified School District at Southwest Voter Registration Project Conference, 6/1997
"We have 27 centers now throughout LAUSD. Every one of them has trained people, clerks to take the fingerprints. Each one has the camera, that special camera. We have the application forms. And I'll tell you what we've done with I.N.S. Now we're even doing the testing that usually people had to go to INS to take, and pretty soon, hopefully, we'll do the final interviews in our schools. Incidentally, I started this very quietly because there are those that if they knew that we were creating a whole new cadre of brand new citizens it would have tremendous political impact. We will change the political panorama not only of L.A., but L.A. County and the State. And we do that we've changed the panorama of the nation. I'm proud to stand here and tell you that in those close to three years we have processed a little over 78,000 brand new citizens. That is the largest citizenship program in the entire nation."
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13) Ernesto Zedillo, former president of Mexico announcing the Mexican constitutional amendment allowing for dual citizenship on 6/23/97
"I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican national extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders, and that Mexican migrants are an important - a very important part of it. For that reason my government proposed a constitutional amendment to allow any Mexican with the right as he desires to acquire another nationality to do so without being forced to first give up his or her Mexican nationality. fortunately, the amendment was passed almost unanimously by our federal Congress and is now part of our constitution. I am also here today to tell you that we want you to take pride in what each and every one of your Mexican brothers and sisters are doing back home.
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14) Augustin Cebada, Information Minister of Brown Berets, militant para-military soldiers of Aztlan shouting at U.S. citizens at an Independence Day rally in Los Angeles, 7/4/96
"Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets, we're here today to show L.A., show the minority people here, the Anglo-Saxons, that we are here, the majority, we're here to stay. We do the work in this city, we take care of the spoiled brat children, we clean their offices, we pick the food, we do the manufacturing in the factories of L.A., we are the majority here and we are not going to be pushed around. We're here in Westwood, this is the fourth time we've been here in the last two months, to show white Anglo-Saxon Protestant L.A., the few of you who remain, that we are the majority, and we claim this land as ours, sit's always been ours, and we're still here, and none of the talk about deporting. If anyone's going to be deported it's going to be you! Go back to Simi Valley, you skunks! Go back to Woodland Hills! Go back to Boston! To back to the Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You're old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you, leave like beaten rats. You old white people, it is your duty to die. Even their own ethicists say that they should die, that they have a duty to die. They're taking up too much space, too much air. We are the majority in L.A. There's over seven million Mexicans in L.A. County alone. We are the majority. And you're going to see every day more and more of it, as we manifest as our young people grow up, graduate from high school, go on to college and start taking over this society. The vast majority of our people are under the age of 15 years old. Right now we're already controlling those elections, whether it's by violence or nonviolence. Through love of having children we're going to take over." Other demonstrators: "Raza fuerza (brown race power), this is Aztlan, this is Mexico. They're the pilgrims on our land. Go back to the Nina, the Pinta, the Santa Maria."
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15) Fabian Nunez, formerly Alliance for Immigrant Rights, political liaison for L.A. School District, currently Speaker of the CA Assembly at Latino Summit Response to Prop 187 at UC Riverside, 1/1995
"There's only two forms of power in this country and in this world. One is economic power, We certainly don't have the economic power because we don't own the means of production, but there's another form of power, and that's the power of the masses. So you can be as revolutionary as you want, you can be Chicano nationalist, you can be Mexican-American, you can be Hispanic, you can believe in the concept of Aztlan, you can believe in the concept of multi-culturalism. Somebody can say 'Everybody here is wrong, I am the only one that has reached revolutionary completeness'. But the bottom line is that if we do not mobilize our community we are not putting together a setting - the parameters to establish a massive movement in our community. That's what this is about. And that's why I am here today - to talk about who here wants to organize the masses, and who here is interested in developing that movement that somebody earlier said that the sleeping giant is in a coma. I'll tell you that on October 16 ("Grande Marcha" against Prop. 187) 150,000 representatives from the sleeping giant were not in a coma but rather were marching down the streets of Los Angeles saying that enough is enough and we're no longer going to tolerate the racism against our community. The very essence of the dignity of our community is in danger right now. Luckily, we don't have to give our lives. We're not at that point, but we can give a little. What I would like to ask everybody here to give is not necessarily your life, but to give one moment of thought to what the importance of a national march on Washington DC in 1996 would mean for the mass movement of our community. Get ten people, ten people ready to go with us to that march to Washington DC in '96, and I guarantee you, just as we mobilized 150 (sic) people into the streets of Los Angeles on October 16, we can mobilize one million people and bring Washington to a standstill, and those rednecks that are out there making decisions for the betterment of their communities will think twice before they push forward anti-immigrant legislation against our community. And so that we can show our people that the time has come for us to come together on what brings us together instead of to sit down and bump heads. And I tell the students in the colleges, if you're still debating the question of whether they're Chicanos or Mexicanos, or Chicano/Mexicano, we're not learning from the lessons of ten, fifteen years ago. The time has come for unity - there's too many things that separate people, but we have to begin to look at what brings us together. And so I ask everybody here, how many of you agree if we can leave here with one thing today, that in 1996 we are going to Washington DC on a mass mobilization there to bring Washington to a standstill so that they know that we're there and that we begin to put into place those things that are necessary to insure that we advance the interests of our community. Raise your hands, those of you that agree with what I'm saying."
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16) Larry Elder, L.A. radio talk show host reads a letter from one of his listeners:
"Dear Larry, I spent ten years as a cruise hostess working at sea on cruise ships all over the world, so many of my assignments were to the Mexican Riviera, going back to the destination over and over again working friendships with many of the local people working along side of us in the Mexican tourist industry. Larry, the one phrase I heard a hundred times or more was, 'When the revolution is over.' When I asked for information, always the same answer, 'When they have California back.' Young or old, it seems they grew up being taught there would be a revolution some day. Somehow they would have California back."
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17) Tom Tancredo, U.S. Congressman from Colorado,, speaking on CSPAN, 6/27/2001
"In the June 21 issue of Time Magazine, the lead story of which is titled, "AMEXICA". It describes the de facto elimination of the border between Mexico and the United States. I believe that the debate revolving around our immigration policy should reflect the fact that this phenomenon is underway. President Fox (of Mexico) yesterday stated that he came to the United States to "play a more active role in establishing the new international architecture". I believe that this new "international architecture" can be described as AMEXICA.
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1 Gray Davis, former governor of California, recalled by the voters 10/2003 speaking to a Latino audience in 1999
"In the near future, people will look at California and Mexico as one magnificent region."
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19) MEChA (student wing of the Aztlan movement - motto: "For the race, everything, for those outside the race, nothing.") chants at national conference, Cal State Univ., Northridge, 6/1996
"Viva la raza (long live our race)", "Chicano power" "We didn't cross the border, the border crossed us" "Long live the revolution" "Esta es mi tierra, esta es mi lucha (This is my land, this is my fight)"

Click here to download this audio clip. http://www.ccir.net/AUDIO/TakeoverOfAme ... -CD01.html

From "Immigration, Jobs, and Out-Of-Control Government":

I would like to take a moment and talk to the Mexican people. Governments rarely apologize for their misdeeds or atrocities; therefore, I feel I must step up to the plate and apologize for the US and the Mexican governments. Firstly, I want to address the illegal Mexican immigrants in my country. In the US, governments aggressively protect people from themselves (not without controversy). In this regard, my Federal Government failed you. For its neglect, I apologize. If The People of the US had been in charge of immigration and borders, we would have shown you more compassion by enforcing the laws thus preventing you from illegally entering the US in the first place. Now you may find yourselves in a predicament; you may be uprooted, inconvenienced, or required to leave the US. I know if required to leave, you will bid us adieu with humility and gratitude for the many benefits and gifts bestowed upon you and the gracious hospitality the US showed you even though you were here illegally. I know that the longer you were here the more profusely you will be tempted to thank us and shower accolades upon the US for such benevolence, but that is not necessary. When you come back to the US legally, we will all be waiting, as we always have, with open arms. My best wishes and prayers for a safe journey home and success in legally returning to the US go with you.

Now I would like to address the people in Mexico. To the millions who want to come to the US legally; to the hundreds of thousands who had family members and loved ones injured, disabled, or killed by the drug wars; to the thousands who lost family members and loved ones when they attempted illegal enter into the US; to all who are losing their rights (as Americans are) and are constantly threatened and endangered by rampant crime, I apologize for both the Mexican and the US governments. Though both governments’ officials first subscribe to some noble but fatally flawed and illusory panacea for the world's problems, their first obligation should be to protect their own people and country.

Then there are the illegal immigrants who parade the darkest sides of human nature that my father taught me about with a simple example. At our family business, Dad explained that I could cater to a customer’s every whim for twenty years, and that person could rave about me for as long, but if I just once say or do something that person doesn’t like, he or she might bad mouth me the rest of their life.

In Phoenix, illegal Mexican alien demonstrators used racial epithets and vulgarities as they threw bottles and rocks at the police. I did not hear of anyone arrested for his or her violence or undocumented status. (If just one Tea Party rally participant threw a rock, that individual would be in jail and the movement would be repeatedly crucified in history books and in the media forever.) Such illegal alien demonstrations, organized by special interest groups, are becoming larger, more frequent, more offensive, more threatening, and potentially more violent. Some include raising the Mexican flag over an inverted American flag, burning and trampling on the American flag and carrying life threatening, demanding, obscene, and offensive signs. I have as my desktop a Mexican demonstrator with a sign that reads, “GIVE US FREE HEALTH CARE JOBS - NO TAXES HOUSE FOOD YOU OWE US AMERICA! WE WILL SHOOT MORE POLICE IN ARIZONA UNTIL WE GET FREE! [sic]â€

Originally Posted by Dewlso

This is pathetic. These so called elected representatives (who are supposed to be representing AMERICANS) are trying to pass a bill that 200 MILLION Americans oppose. It only shows how these slimeballs work. Once they get into office they forget that they work for AMERICANS. Unfortunately this problem is on BOTH sides of the aisle.

http://latinainstitute .wordpress.com/2010/08/23/mike-huckabees-surprising-support-for-the-dream-act/

Which brings me to the post by this "ineverhadabrain" idiot. To me, that post makes him or her a terrorist, and the site moderators/owners are lending aid to this terrorist by allowing it, even for a few minutes. They should all be caught and tried as terrorists. If it was an American making the same post, you can guarantee it would be all over the news and the FBI would shut down the site and the person would be sitting in jail awaiting trial. Or the post would have been removed immediately and the account banned with the IP address. (How many YouTube accounts faced the same fate just for being against illegal immigration?)

Agreed with everything you stated here Dewlso, Except for this comment about site moderators/ owners allowing certain post and removing other post.

First off, they are just words, but with those words it helps us and the rest of the world to identify who are threats to us / their freedoms and their civil rights and human rights. By banning, suppressing and removing comments and statements that you do not agree with does not stop these people intentional terrorist movement. In fact by doing so that is suppressing this Country and the world from being informed of the real threat to this nation and the world. To censor and monitor the internet or the website is no different than trying to manipulate the public into seeing what you want them to see and not see the other side of the coin, such as what China tries to do to its people by dictating what they want their people to know through the media and the newspapers and the internet and limit their people knowledge of what is really happening in the world. It is massive manipulation to be for or against a certain agenda depending on what that monitor or owner believes in rather than laying out the "WHOLE" truths of a issue. To remove or dictate what is published or not published is a further violation of "Freedom of Speech". Everyone is always trying to hide and suppress everyone else's opinions and believes to benefit their own cause is nothing more than trying to be controling and deceitful and manipulative to try to keep the world ignorant of the truth and the facts.
Let them speak, let them post their comments, so they can be identified as the criminals and terrorists they are, to try to suppress their comments, don't make the threat go away, they just go undetected until a bomb or other terrorist act happens. Let them speak out so they can be identified before they have a chance to set a bomb or act as a terrorist.

I would rather read about a terrorist verbal threat and take action to capture them rather than to read about a bomb that killed 3000 innocent people then take action afterwards.

Huckabee has lost my support for 2012. I would rather see obama get a second term. at least i know and expect that he is a traitor. I might be ok with his idea the dream act has merit, but wanting to allow people to come into our country and breed like roaches so their kids become citizens for the welfare and all that goes with it. Some say illegals cant get welfare and food stamps. They can with american born products of their crimes so also do just for having children its called free lunch compliments of the us tax payer. And we have to TRY to educate illegals which we should not. That is one way we could get them out of here is cut off what draws them here. Free stuff, low paying back breaking jobs for $1 hour, birthright citizenship, only after those are addressed and the border secured can we discuss any path to citizenship and i still dotn think there should be one.

"I like to read this often because it reminds me about the long range plans of the Hispanic/Mexican/Latino community, and how these plans have been working for them over the last few years with the help of our rogue government. "

You mostley have liberal whites to blame for that and when one of their daughters is raped by some gang banger maybe they will get the idea

I wrote this comment on Huckabees website, but since they monitor it, I'm sure it will not be published on his site because he wants to deceive the people that hears his point of view and keep them blind of the bigger picture

HUCKABEE: When a kid comes to his country, and he’s four years old and he had no choice in it — his parents came illegally. He still, because he is in this state, it’s the state’s responsibility – in fact, it is the state’s legal mandate – to make sure that child is in school. So let’s say that kid goes to school. That kid is in our school from kindergarten through the 12th grade. He graduates as valedictorian because he’s a smart kid and he works his rear end off and he becomes the valedictorian of the school. The question is: Is he better off going to college and becoming a neurosurgeon or a banker or whatever he might become, and becoming a taxpayer, and in the process having to apply for and achieve citizenship, or should we make him pick tomatoes? I think it’s better if he goes to college and becomes a citizen.

Come across this statement you supposedly made a few months ago, supporting the DREAM ACT AMNESTY.
You stated that it is the States responsibility. - IN FACT A STATE IS MANDATED TO MAKE SURE ALL CHILDREN ARE IN SCHOOL.

YOU CONVENIENTLY SPEAK OF STATE MANDATES, that apparently you have conveniently overlooked the FEDERAL MANDATE that all illegal immigrants be deported. Thus they would not be in our school system from Kinder to 12th grade if the HOMELAND SECURITY did their job and Enforced the laws they put in place. then once all those illegal students get citizenship and turn 18, they apply to sponsor their parents, then they sponsor every other Mexican in Mexico to come here. Trade off - you have 2 million smart kids and 18 + million orange pickers collecting welfare benefits, further more due to the population explosion, America is faced with increased pollution from increased use of automobiles emissions, increase energy usage creating a need to burn more coal that gives off more emissions, more deforestation to accommodate the population growth which reduces oxygen making trees that help clean the air and balance our eco system, increased waste disposal which we already have problems finding a place to dispose of waste to the point we are shipping our waste off shore and polluting oceans, increased water usage and waste water which many areas in this Country already struggle with maintaining enough water to sustain its current population, increased traffic congestion to the point that States will have to mandate laws that suppress Americans from driving their vehicles on certain days to avoid grid lock and excessive emissions like many of these over populated cities around the world have to deal with, increased unemployment, which results in increased crime and a need for more prisons and guards at the tax payers expense and more social workers to handle all the welfare applicants after these illegal students sponsor their parents and other family members to bleed our welfare and social security dry just to name a few.

We have plenty of smart people already here that came in a legal fashion and followed the laws of our government and they continue to come through our legal system. The "feel sorry for me" plea for these illegal children shouldn't even be an issue if the Federal Government and Homeland security and border patrol was able to enforce the laws enacted and do their job without morons like you spewing off and trying to justify that law breakers and criminals should have the same rights and liberties as law obiding citizens and immigrants that come here legally.

Giving Amnesty to these so called select undocumented / illegal child is not were it stops, it is merely away to get a foothold into America legally then sponsor all their family members which will bring far more uneducated and violent minded welfare recips and criminals to this Country than it brings smart people.
If you are going to report certain laws that States are mandated to follow, then make sure you state all the laws, not just the ones that benefit your cause to try to manipulate and pull the wool over the public's eyes.
another thing, that law you referred to about a State is mandated to have all children in school. That law was mandated with the intention of meaning all legal citizens of the State, illegals shouldn't be an issue if the Federal Government enforced their laws and protected our borders.

Shame on you for trying to fool and trick the American public by pulling the wool over unsuspecting law o biding citizens with your propaganda. Someone mentioned that you should run for Presidency in 2014, God help this Country to get a corrupt moron like you into the presidency. They obviously don't know the ramifications of your ideology.
Congress has been in session and is still tossing around this Dream Act Amnesty bill on Monday, Call your Rep and Senator to oppose this bill if you want to protect your Country, freedom and your Constitutional rights because this Huckabee Character is setting your Country up for Sabotage by his irresponsible and false reporting.

Originally Posted by enforcer1776

Originally Posted by LadyStClaire

THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO COMPARE THEIR SITUATION WITH AFRICAN-AMERICANS. DO THEY NOT UNDERSTAND THAT "WE" ARE LEGAL CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY VIA THE 14th AMENDMENT, YOU KNOW THE ONE THAT THEY HAVE STOLEN LIKE THEY STEAL EVERYTHING ELSE THEY WANT. AND AS FOR THESE THREATS AGAINST LAWMAKERS AND OTHERS, THEY NEED TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY BY THE F.B.I. THEY CAN FIND OUT WHOSE BEHIND THIS AND MAKE THEM PAY. WHAT IS THIS COUNTRY COMING TO IMO, THE POS OF A PRESIDENT IS PARTLY TO BLAME FOR ALL OF THIS, AND HE'S KEEPING HIS MOUTH SHUT. HE NEED TO STAY OFF OF THE BASKET BALL COURT AND DO THE JOB THAT HE WAS ELECTED TO DO THE MAN JUST MAKES ME SICK

regardless of politics this is one issue white people and black people should be in agreement with. The 14th amendment was never intended and there has been sources that show yankees who wrote it even said it was not for alliens. I would be offended if i were black with the history of this coutnry that these illegals are using that as their cry to have their anchor babies yet the NAACP, SHarpton, jackson and obama support them. Its like they declared war on their own people.

Whose jobs are more likely to be lost by the influx of illegals that get amnesty whites or blacks?

I AM OFFENDED BY IT FOR SURE I THINK IT'S A DAMN SHAME THAT THOSE MENTIONED ABOVE ARE DOING ALL THEY CAN TO SUPPORT THIS AGENDA AND ARE TURNING THEIR BACKS ON US AFRICAN-AMERICANS. I HAVE NO USE FOR ANY OF THEM, NONE WHAT SO EVER. THESE ILLEGAL MEXICANS DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THEM ANY MORE THAN THEY DO ABOUT ME OR ANY OTHER BLACK PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY AS FOR THE 14th AMENDMENT, IT CLEARLY STAES THAT IT'S NOT MEANT TO COVER ILLEGAL ALIENS. AND YET THESE ANCHOR BABIES ARE GIVEN CITIZENSHIP ANYWAY. I AGREE WITH EVERYTING THAT YOU SAID IN YOUR RESPONSE TO MY COMMENT. ITS TIME WE ALL BLACK, WHITE AND LEGAL IMMIGRANTS WORK AS ONE AND TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, ITS GOING TO TURN INTO ANOTHER MEXICO AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.

WHAT I WOULD REALLY WANT AN ANSWER TO IS THIS QUESTION: WHY IS IT OK FOR MEXICO TO PROTECT ITS SOUTHERN BORDER AS WELL AS TO NOT HAVE ILLEGALS COME INTO THEIR COUNTRY AT WILL THEY ADHERE TO THEIR IMMIGRATION LAWS BUT EXPECT THE U.S. TO CHANGE THEIR LAWS JUST TO SUIT THEM. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD. WHY IS THAT