Thread: Dream Amnesty Supporter Manifesto Threatens Lawmakers, Media

Originally Posted by internomad

Agreed with everything you stated here Dewlso, Except for this comment about site moderators/ owners allowing certain post and removing other post.

First off, they are just words, but with those words it helps us and the rest of the world to identify who are threats to us / their freedoms and their civil rights and human rights. By banning, suppressing and removing comments and statements that you do not agree with does not stop these people intentional terrorist movement. In fact by doing so that is suppressing this Country and the world from being informed of the real threat to this nation and the world. To censor and monitor the internet or the website is no different than trying to manipulate the public into seeing what you want them to see and not see the other side of the coin, such as what China tries to do to its people by dictating what they want their people to know through the media and the newspapers and the internet and limit their people knowledge of what is really happening in the world. It is massive manipulation to be for or against a certain agenda depending on what that monitor or owner believes in rather than laying out the "WHOLE" truths of a issue. To remove or dictate what is published or not published is a further violation of "Freedom of Speech". Everyone is always trying to hide and suppress everyone else's opinions and believes to benefit their own cause is nothing more than trying to be controling and deceitful and manipulative to try to keep the world ignorant of the truth and the facts.
Let them speak, let them post their comments, so they can be identified as the criminals and terrorists they are, to try to suppress their comments, don't make the threat go away, they just go undetected until a bomb or other terrorist act happens. Let them speak out so they can be identified before they have a chance to set a bomb or act as a terrorist.

I would rather read about a terrorist verbal threat and take action to capture them rather than to read about a bomb that killed 3000 innocent people then take action afterwards.

By allowing this post also gave time for the message to reach other potential terrorists and aid in recruiting them. I wonder how many militants emailed "ineverhadabrain". It also sent the message that the site is not monitored on a regular basis which also gives time for more people to make posts like that, as well as it will be tolerated.

Free speech is fine, but you cant allow it in certain situations (yelling FIRE in crowded theatre). If there was some evidence that Obama would prosecute this kind of behavior by an illegal then I would be in agreement with you. Unfortunately we have seen that nothing will come of this and it will only get worse. When his administration takes action, it will because someone has died or was injured or the roles were reversed. It wont be because some illegal posted a threat.

Knowing how the Obama admin is in favor of illegal immigration, it is HIGHLY doubtful that anything will be done about it.

We are also talking about a person who is in this country illegally, a criminal to begin with. We shouldnt allow criminals free speech. They gave up that right when they came here illegally and leeched the American taxpayers for the past 10-12 years. We should be PRO-ACTIVE in illegal immigration. It is the RE-ACTIVE stance that put us in the mess. We sat back and watched while they came across the border when we should have be arresting and deporting illegals as they crossed.

good to know you ladystclaire.

As a history major i know more than many about the black experience in this country. I am also native american and white. The redman was almost wiped out to get their fair shake. The black man suffered through slavery and segregation for centuries and these illegals think they should just get everything handed to them?

Hell with that.

Our country might not be perfect, but its ours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY6t2ckpb5g

This is a news report from CNN about the cost to US tax payers for illegal immigrants staying here.

Originally Posted by internomad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY6t2ckpb5g

This is a news report from CNN about the cost to US tax payers for illegal immigrants staying here.

since liberals love them so much why dont they make a way for them to pay for them and patriots like us to opt out of our taxes being used for it. Birthright citizenship needs to end as its a draw and any illegal that has a child on us soil is commiting fraud against the us taxpayer and being rewarded for her crime.

Originally Posted by Dewlso

Originally Posted by internomad

Agreed with everything you stated here Dewlso, Except for this comment about site moderators/ owners allowing certain post and removing other post.

Knowing how the Obama admin is in favor of illegal immigration, it is HIGHLY doubtful that anything will be done about it.

We are also talking about a person who is in this country illegally, a criminal to begin with. We shouldnt allow criminals free speech. They gave up that right when they came here illegally and leeched the American taxpayers for the past 10-12 years. We should be PRO-ACTIVE in illegal immigration. It is the RE-ACTIVE stance that put us in the mess. We sat back and watched while they came across the border when we should have be arresting and deporting illegals as they crossed.

I understand your point, However this administration is not and will not take measures to secure our borders or protect us legal citizens from invasion unless it gets heated to the point that they cannot continue to sweep it under the rug and have no choice but to address it.

As much as most Americans want to look away and turn their backs to avoid conflict, Its going to one day explode in an all out war to protect our safety and our children. This angle and position that our administration has been taking on this issue is not making anything better, it continues to spred like a plague across America, they do just enough to give the illusion to Americans that they are making an attempt and that is it, and in the background they are spending billions of tax payers dollars to harbor these illegal immigrants rather than to send them back to their host Country.

Have you ever been in a parking lot or a back alley and seen a car being stolen or a lady being gang raped? and watch the reaction of people, they turn their backs and don't want to get involved and will not intervene. Rather just turn their heads and look the other way and the most they do is possibly call 911. However by then the car is gone or the crime has been done. This is what Americans and the administration are doing with the illegals immigrant issues, spineless they are, lack of a sense of duty to protect their Country and their rights. they want everyone else to fight their battles and sit back and reap the rewards to everyone elses efforts rather than to stand together.

Here is a thought and a question.

someone who has nothing to lose and everything to gain vs.

someone who has everything to lose and nothing to gain


Who will take the bigger risk to fight and defend what they believe in and what they stand for?

These illegal immigrants come here with nothing and stand to gain everything they fight for and believe in.

Our president / Commander and Chief, Senators and Reps have nothing to gain and everything to lose if they fight to defend their Country they have been elected to Represent, the fear of losing a re-election is greater than the fear of losing a State or territory. The President, and Congress is not motivated to defend this nation by a code of Ethics in which they pledged to do when they took office, or for what they believe in or represent what the Citizens of this Country believe in, They are motivated by money and without a re-election they lose that money and power. Their motivation has nothing to do with principles or a pledge or standing up for right from wrong.

The American public is no different. As long as they have something to lose, their homes, their jobs, their flat screen tv,s. As long as they can still line their pockets with a few dollars. They will not stand together and march to Capitol Hill and demand that Washington uphold the laws of this land and defend our borders as they swore to do when they took office.
The American public will not take a day off of work and march to Washington and demand that they enforce the laws of this nation or we the people will enforce them our self, and remove them from their positions of office and command. A few hundred people in Washington holds the fate of a few hundred million of Americans and we leave our futures and our childrens futures in the hands of these sabators and traitors.

If we Americans grew a backbone and stood together and made demands on Washington as these lawless illegal immigrants have made on our Government. Our Government could not look the other way while 3000 - 8000 illegals cross the border and invade our Country on a daily basis. Washington DC is a cess-pool of corruption, filled to the rim with Saba tors and traitors.

When will America wake up and demand our Government protect and defend our land, our culture and our constitution in which this Country was formed?

Answers: after it is too late! That time is rapidly approaching.

Lets think a little further ahead of other possibilities that can occur.

These Mexicans can not even organize and run their own Country, What makes them think they can conquer and run this Country.
They have already proclaimed that they own California and for the most part the do and they will continue to spread out.

Meanwhile, Washington sits back and does nothing, in the meantime our Economy continues to collapse and this Country continues to deteriorate until it collapses as a nation.

Then what? How about this idea... When this Country has been brought to its knees by these Southern border invaders and the terrorists acts plotted against this Country.

Then China will make their move and invade our shores. China would like nothing more than to take over this Country and its resources and the only thing that has kept them from doing it so far is because they are not quite sure if they are strong enough yet to do it, but everyday goes by we get weaker as a nation and they get stronger. China will have no problems wiping this Country out and sending these mexicans back to their Country or be put to death. So all their efforts to invade this Country and break it down as a nation as they have done to their own Country will be short lived.

Now some of you or maybe many of you that read this may disagree with this point, but before you do. Book a flight to China and spend some time there to talk to their people and watch their television broadcasts and then you will have the unnerving displeasure to know the things that I have learned from all the time I have spent there.

Why does China not take control of Taiwan? or take over Japan? They would love nothing more than to have their money that both islands generate. The only things that keeps them from Conquering those rich little islands is the fact that they will have to face the USA. But if the USA falls into chaos from this invasion and terrorist attacks, it will be easy pickings.

USSR, China and the USA were known a few years back as the Super powers of the world. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, they have not been any kind of a major threat as a super power. The two so called Super powers left is USA and China, if China has a chance to Conquer USA then it becomes the only super power. Any of you remember the game called "RISK" and the objective of that game?

USA a super power? Really??? does a super power allow its borders to be breached and invaded? Does a super power cater to the minority demands and illegals demands and ignore the majority of legal citizens?

USA a super power? It is a smoke screen, an illusion, This Country has lost its backbone and stands for nothing other than money in a few select peoples pockets which each of you have elected into an office.

Obama has not made good on any of his promises during his campaign since he has taken office, in fact he has done the exact opposite in many ways. Many will agree on this, what I don't understand is why people are not taking the time to demand that their senators and Reps impose the impeachment process on him, and take steps to save this Country before it is too late.

America has the audacity to go around the world and tell other Countries how they should run and control and secure their Countries, when they cannot run and secure our own Country.

What kind of a message does America send to the world by allowing our borders to be invaded and letting illegal immigrants make demands in a Country that they don't belong.

Come one, come all, don't be afraid because America will not enforce their immigration laws, its a free for all. There are no jobs here to sustain the population but come and contribute to the unemployment rates. Don't waste your time and money standing in the lines at the Embassies and wait months for a visa to be approved to come here legally. Just come by way of the Southern Border because their is no law and order there and you will have the same rights as the legals that are there. That is the message being sent to the world.

When will Americans stand together and take back our Country from Washington and from the invaders of our Southern Border?

Don't worry about having to learn to speak Spanish, be more concerned to learn Chinese.

Sleep well America!

Originally Posted by internomad

I understand your point, However this administration is not and will not take measures to secure our borders or protect us legal citizens from invasion unless it gets heated to the point that they cannot continue to sweep it under the rug and have no choice but to address it.

As much as most Americans want to look away and turn their backs to avoid conflict, Its going to one day explode in an all out war to protect our safety and our children. This angle and position that our administration has been taking on this issue is not making anything better, it continues to spred like a plague across America, they do just enough to give the illusion to Americans that they are making an attempt and that is it, and in the background they are spending billions of tax payers dollars to harbor these illegal immigrants rather than to send them back to their host Country.

Have you ever been in a parking lot or a back alley and seen a car being stolen or a lady being gang raped? and watch the reaction of people, they turn their backs and don't want to get involved and will not intervene. Rather just turn their heads and look the other way and the most they do is possibly call 911. However by then the car is gone or the crime has been done. This is what Americans and the administration are doing with the illegals immigrant issues, spineless they are, lack of a sense of duty to protect their Country and their rights. they want everyone else to fight their battles and sit back and reap the rewards to everyone elses efforts rather than to stand together.

The Obama's and the global elitist masters want an act of violence to occur, that way it justifies their OVER reaction. Instead of deportations and border enforcement, we will have the introduction of the North American Union and the removal of borders. (which seems to be their plan for the past 20 years) Then Obama will say we wont have to be troubled with border enforcement and illegals because he "solved" the problem. You only have to look to Europe to see how well a borderless society runs.

They have nothing to gain they are here ILLEGALLY!
And the Chinese! please, where you from Sweden!

Originally Posted by stevetheroofer

They have nothing to gain they are here ILLEGALLY!
And the Chinese! please, where you from Sweden!

Come of roofs of other peoples homes you been in the sun to long and spend a little time with the people from CCP and they'll freely and openly tell you their goals, I suspect you have never been out of the Country to any other Country much less China. Not to worry, If the deal that I read about goes through they be down around the southern Border before to long. I read not to long ago that China is now looking to buy 160,000 acres for refining petro down in Texas / NMexico area.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_426718.htm

try to read that and understand what it means, and look at the US GDP, while China is on track of quadrupling their GDP in a 20 yr period while the US is in a Economical downturn with no sight of stabilization much less any growth, in fact almost every State is still reporting losing jobs in their quartly job lose reports for the second year in a row.

Fact of the matter is that far to much of America has gotten the mind set "being to big for their britches" and has acquired a "chip on the shoulder" Thinking that we are the police of the world or the big brother of the world and it is our responsibility and god given right to push our way of life onto the rest of the world. Our way of life is the right way and only way of life, Spending billions of dollars to prove it to the world. All the while, trying to accommodate the 100,000,s of immigrants that come to North America both legally and illegally. Now we are showing the world what happens to a Country that gets to big for its britches, That bright shining American dream that the world has come to think of America as is now resembling last nights rustic gloomy red lunar eclipse.

Originally Posted by Bowman

What do you expect, this is what they learn in their La Raza and similar anti-American classes and clubs.

Absolutely..they learn to be thieves, scum suckers and bottom feeders...they expect everything for free. They are self taught well, even their own country men don't want them....it must suck to be them


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